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full member
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May 13, 2014, 10:22:45 PM
#33
Yet tradefortress and BFL operators are still allowed to post freely on the forum. What has this forum come to...
Scammers are allowed to keep posting because there is more of a chance that more information will come out of them or that they decide to return whatever they scammed if they have the chance to speak up or chat with others.

But still,  they should have a scammer tag too.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
hero member
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Merit: 500
May 13, 2014, 03:31:09 PM
#31

I'm assuming there is no way for users to retain their scammer tag if they want to keep it? Sad
And just why exactly would you want to keep it? Sentimental reasons?
Maybe just being unique like the Donator and VIP ranks, except that you get it for stealing rather than donating.

This!


It seems to me that you are proud of your scams and scammer tag...  Undecided
hero member
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Your *what* is itchy?
May 13, 2014, 02:08:59 PM
#30
I put a proposal up in Scam Acc's, token restitution.  We'll see how many of those accounts respond. 
administrator
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Merit: 13032
May 13, 2014, 02:03:44 PM
#29
I might remove OldScammerTag from DefaultTrust at some point, though. I don't have time to look into cases like Aahzman's in detail, so I don't want to keep saying that he's guilty forever.
legendary
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May 13, 2014, 02:00:11 PM
#28
It would be nice if some account on the default trust list could flag each of the accounts with negative trust of "Had a forum SCAMMER tag".

This account would have to be automated, since it would be a lot of work.

Done.

Thank you.
administrator
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May 13, 2014, 01:58:47 PM
#27
It would be nice if some account on the default trust list could flag each of the accounts with negative trust of "Had a forum SCAMMER tag".

This account would have to be automated, since it would be a lot of work.

Done.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 500
Your *what* is itchy?
May 13, 2014, 01:26:19 PM
#26
Well, while I'm glad to see my undeserved tag go, hopefully my attempt to make restitution to the supposed 18 victims (far more than actually posted, btw) will encourage Theymos or malevolent to adjust the trust rating.

Rob/Aahzman
legendary
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Merit: 1071
May 10, 2014, 09:37:19 PM
#25
Finally, i don't have to see that scary dank anymore Roll Eyes the guy is a pirate ? scammer?

These accounts are not being deleted, just their scammer tags (the SCAMMER and XXXXX bellow the username). As for Dank, I'm not sure but I think he failed his part in a trade (50 some btc?). On the other hand, occasionally he comes up with stuff like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-bf4-383960.

hero member
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May 10, 2014, 09:32:35 PM
#24
Automated replacement with negative trust from a known account?

It would be nice if some account on the default trust list could flag each of the accounts with negative trust of "Had a forum SCAMMER tag".

This account would have to be automated, since it would be a lot of work.
I'd do it, but alas I'm not on the default list.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
May 10, 2014, 09:14:17 PM
#23
Automated replacement with negative trust from a known account?

It would be nice if some account on the default trust list could flag each of the accounts with negative trust of "Had a forum SCAMMER tag".

This account would have to be automated, since it would be a lot of work.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
May 10, 2014, 09:08:28 PM
#22
Automated replacement with negative trust from a known account?
donator
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Merit: 1015
May 10, 2014, 08:55:41 PM
#21
Is there any way to petition for the SCAMMER tag to stay, particularly on Nefario?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
May 10, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
#20
Finally, i don't have to see that scary dank anymore Roll Eyes the guy is a pirate ? scammer?
staff
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Merit: 4115
May 10, 2014, 08:45:38 PM
#19

The reason why is because it creates a perception problem (you seem to be affected).  Nobody gets a scammer tag anymore, ever, under any circumstances.   So not having a scammer tag doesn't mean someone isn't a scammer, it just means they scammed after the forum stopped giving those tags out.  Essentially they are obsolete yet by remaining they are confusing.

When someone sees scammer tags this may lead someone to believe (like yourself) that they are still being used and thus not having a scammer tag is a good sign when the reality is that someone not having a scammer tag alone means nothing.

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Any reasons or would you just prefer to use the trust system which isn't moderate unlike the scammer tags.

This.  It isn't just prefer, they never moderate scammmer tags anymore.


I did think of the perception problem after I posted that and was going to edit it. I see that would be a problem. I guess I didn't consider that because I'm familiar with both of the systems. But, anyone who doesn't know both of the systems could think that not having a scammer tag means that they aren't a scammer.

Thanks for the explanation much appreciated.

Should be a automated negative feedback put onto the account, otherwise a previous scammer could get away with it, I know that's why we have been given 7 days to put the negative trust. But, unless I know about the scammer and the suspicious activities it's been up to I don't put any feedback.
donator
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Gerald Davis
May 10, 2014, 08:40:09 PM
#18
I don't quite understand why these need to be removed. I think having those and the trust system would work fine together, the trust system can be used like normal but, the scammer tags are issued when it has been confirmed that the person scammed. What we are effectively doing it removing a layout of protection.

Obviously, you justified giving them the tag in the first place so I don't know why you would want to remove it now. Any reasons or would you just prefer to use the trust system which isn't moderate unlike the scammer tags. 

The reason why is because it creates a perception problem (you seem to be affected).  Nobody gets a scammer tag anymore, ever, under any circumstances.   So not having a scammer tag doesn't mean someone isn't a scammer, it just means they scammed after the forum stopped giving those tags out.  Essentially they are obsolete yet by remaining they are confusing.

When someone sees scammer tags this may lead someone to believe (like yourself) that they are still being used and thus not having a scammer tag is a good sign when the reality is that someone not having a scammer tag alone means nothing.

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Any reasons or would you just prefer to use the trust system which isn't moderate unlike the scammer tags.

This.  It isn't just prefer, they never moderate scammmer tags anymore.
staff
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Merit: 4115
May 10, 2014, 08:32:41 PM
#17
I don't quite understand why these need to be removed. I think having those and the trust system would work fine together, the trust system can be used like normal but, the scammer tags are issued when it has been confirmed that the person scammed. What we are effectively doing is removing a layer of protection.

Obviously, you justified giving them the tag in the first place so I don't know why you would want to remove it now. Any reasons? Or would you just prefer to use the trust system which isn't moderate unlike the scammer tags.  
sr. member
Activity: 389
Merit: 250
May 10, 2014, 06:33:05 PM
#16
Yet tradefortress and BFL operators are still allowed to post freely on the forum. What has this forum come to...
Scammers are allowed to keep posting because there is more of a chance that more information will come out of them or that they decide to return whatever they scammed if they have the chance to speak up or chat with others.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1064
May 10, 2014, 03:17:21 PM
#15
Its really very risky, mostly scammer tags account are senior or hero account, if tag remove from them, they will easily goin to market and try to trade and will scam again. Coz of their senior member or Hero member account new member will trust them and will send them first and then they will run away.
full member
Activity: 163
Merit: 100
May 10, 2014, 03:12:53 PM
#14
Yet tradefortress and BFL operators are still allowed to post freely on the forum. What has this forum come to...
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