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Quote from: hugobord on July 02, 2017, 05:09:28 PM

You need to start saving energy
And use it at a minimum

Energy should not be wasted, but it should be used when there is a need. But still, I am against the expansion of thermal power plants. They create a lot of pollution, and every year a lot of people die as a result of this pollution. IMO, thermal power plants must be replaced with either hydro-electric plants, or nuclear power plants.

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Quote from: freeyourmind on July 02, 2017, 10:29:49 AM

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Quote from: freeyourmind on June 28, 2017, 08:18:07 PM

In terms of research, the technology that currently exists for solar panels and batteries is more than good enough. But society as a whole doesn't move in that direction, only individuals do. So it's a very slow movement. Think about cell phones. This was a very fast movement that the whole world got behind. Nothing really stood in its way. The technology was created and constantly improved, and distributed all over the world. That type of movement isn't there for solar. And the current interests in energy don't want to give up the control, power and money to decentralize energy into individuals having their own electricity with no dependence.

Our energy companies are "crown" corporations, meaning they are partly government organizations. These organizations aren't open to the idea that one day they SHOULD be obsolete and replaced with either solar, geothermal, wind, hydro, etc. renewable energy.

That's true, it's good enough but thinking about it, it's the people who can really change something. A collective effort if you think about it. It's started by a person then suddenly two or more people starting using it then boom, a whole community then it will start changing the world. It's just fantasy because like you said, they want control of the energy because they want the money produced by it and definitely it's something that is really profitable. It's just that, it's not helping the world, it's helping the controller of it.

Yeah exactly. Not everyone in the world is for solar because they might have a personal financial interest against it. And unfortunately, it is these few people that are getting in the way of mass distribution because solar is "too expensive". It's foolish to think building and installing a solar panel is too expensive. For oil, aside from the countless wars that surround oil, you need to test/drill for it to find it, build a rig on it, then transport the oil to ships, go half way around the world, get on trucks to distribute...and we consider this to be "cheaper". It's a foolish way of thinking in my opinion.

Right now, my hopes lie with Tesla to take the initiative and push the distribution of solar. Check this out...they basically converted a small island that used to use diesel fuel into a solar island: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkQBVoS9lAo

I have seen articles that support the older models of transportation that provides lots of Carbon Dioxide emission that is harmful to the environment and the government is trying to overrule it with the latest type of model which is newer and it is actually electric cars and the people would be beneficial but the drivers of the old models, the Jeepney in the Philippines, are rallying about it. For sure there is someone who is behind it with financial gain and I think money is all they think about.

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You need to start saving energy
And use it at a minimum

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Quote from: freeyourmind on July 02, 2017, 02:48:03 PM

Quote from: Wintorez on July 02, 2017, 12:13:21 PM

Quote from: freeyourmind on July 02, 2017, 10:29:49 AM

Quote from: crwth on July 01, 2017, 11:08:42 PM

Quote from: freeyourmind on June 28, 2017, 08:18:07 PM

In terms of research, the technology that currently exists for solar panels and batteries is more than good enough. But society as a whole doesn't move in that direction, only individuals do. So it's a very slow movement. Think about cell phones. This was a very fast movement that the whole world got behind. Nothing really stood in its way. The technology was created and constantly improved, and distributed all over the world. That type of movement isn't there for solar. And the current interests in energy don't want to give up the control, power and money to decentralize energy into individuals having their own electricity with no dependence.

Our energy companies are "crown" corporations, meaning they are partly government organizations. These organizations aren't open to the idea that one day they SHOULD be obsolete and replaced with either solar, geothermal, wind, hydro, etc. renewable energy.

That's true, it's good enough but thinking about it, it's the people who can really change something. A collective effort if you think about it. It's started by a person then suddenly two or more people starting using it then boom, a whole community then it will start changing the world. It's just fantasy because like you said, they want control of the energy because they want the money produced by it and definitely it's something that is really profitable. It's just that, it's not helping the world, it's helping the controller of it.

Yeah exactly. Not everyone in the world is for solar because they might have a personal financial interest against it. And unfortunately, it is these few people that are getting in the way of mass distribution because solar is "too expensive". It's foolish to think building and installing a solar panel is too expensive. For oil, aside from the countless wars that surround oil, you need to test/drill for it to find it, build a rig on it, then transport the oil to ships, go half way around the world, get on trucks to distribute...and we consider this to be "cheaper". It's a foolish way of thinking in my opinion.

Right now, my hopes lie with Tesla to take the initiative and push the distribution of solar. Check this out...they basically converted a small island that used to use diesel fuel into a solar island: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkQBVoS9lAo

I understand that you stayed inventing a dinner of good energy sources, but it's most likely a battery pack and food. Passed did not get cars and other such systems. But to provide cities and countries with electricity, we need more reliable energy supply systems. I consider such alternative sources to be the sun and the wind. Today in the whole world, things in this plan produce perhaps 1000 enterprises. We have everything, we just need to take it and do it.

Sorry dude, trying to understand what you're trying to say here. If you're saying that in the past, cars didn't run on electricity, that's not the case. Electric cars were actually around before gasoline, and it was the Rockafeller family that grew the oil industry and actually bought out the entire electrical public transport system in the states, pulled it out of the ground and replaced it with buses that ran on gas. We are still living on the momentum of this stupidity.

For those of you that haven't seen a documentary on the Rockafeller family, definitely check it out and a lot of questions on why things are the way that they are right now, will be answered. This one is over an hour long, but for those of you that are interested, check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySnk-f2ThpE

I think his was only business that drove him to do that, why didn't his competitors choose to invest their money into electric car systems, that's very good for the atmosphere and it costs way less.

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Quote from: Wintorez on July 02, 2017, 12:13:21 PM

Quote from: freeyourmind on July 02, 2017, 10:29:49 AM

Quote from: crwth on July 01, 2017, 11:08:42 PM

Quote from: freeyourmind on June 28, 2017, 08:18:07 PM

In terms of research, the technology that currently exists for solar panels and batteries is more than good enough. But society as a whole doesn't move in that direction, only individuals do. So it's a very slow movement. Think about cell phones. This was a very fast movement that the whole world got behind. Nothing really stood in its way. The technology was created and constantly improved, and distributed all over the world. That type of movement isn't there for solar. And the current interests in energy don't want to give up the control, power and money to decentralize energy into individuals having their own electricity with no dependence.

Our energy companies are "crown" corporations, meaning they are partly government organizations. These organizations aren't open to the idea that one day they SHOULD be obsolete and replaced with either solar, geothermal, wind, hydro, etc. renewable energy.

That's true, it's good enough but thinking about it, it's the people who can really change something. A collective effort if you think about it. It's started by a person then suddenly two or more people starting using it then boom, a whole community then it will start changing the world. It's just fantasy because like you said, they want control of the energy because they want the money produced by it and definitely it's something that is really profitable. It's just that, it's not helping the world, it's helping the controller of it.

Yeah exactly. Not everyone in the world is for solar because they might have a personal financial interest against it. And unfortunately, it is these few people that are getting in the way of mass distribution because solar is "too expensive". It's foolish to think building and installing a solar panel is too expensive. For oil, aside from the countless wars that surround oil, you need to test/drill for it to find it, build a rig on it, then transport the oil to ships, go half way around the world, get on trucks to distribute...and we consider this to be "cheaper". It's a foolish way of thinking in my opinion.

Right now, my hopes lie with Tesla to take the initiative and push the distribution of solar. Check this out...they basically converted a small island that used to use diesel fuel into a solar island: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkQBVoS9lAo

I understand that you stayed inventing a dinner of good energy sources, but it's most likely a battery pack and food. Passed did not get cars and other such systems. But to provide cities and countries with electricity, we need more reliable energy supply systems. I consider such alternative sources to be the sun and the wind. Today in the whole world, things in this plan produce perhaps 1000 enterprises. We have everything, we just need to take it and do it.

Sorry dude, trying to understand what you're trying to say here. If you're saying that in the past, cars didn't run on electricity, that's not the case. Electric cars were actually around before gasoline, and it was the Rockafeller family that grew the oil industry and actually bought out the entire electrical public transport system in the states, pulled it out of the ground and replaced it with buses that ran on gas. We are still living on the momentum of this stupidity.

For those of you that haven't seen a documentary on the Rockafeller family, definitely check it out and a lot of questions on why things are the way that they are right now, will be answered. This one is over an hour long, but for those of you that are interested, check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySnk-f2ThpE

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Quote from: freeyourmind on July 02, 2017, 10:29:49 AM

Quote from: crwth on July 01, 2017, 11:08:42 PM

Quote from: freeyourmind on June 28, 2017, 08:18:07 PM

In terms of research, the technology that currently exists for solar panels and batteries is more than good enough. But society as a whole doesn't move in that direction, only individuals do. So it's a very slow movement. Think about cell phones. This was a very fast movement that the whole world got behind. Nothing really stood in its way. The technology was created and constantly improved, and distributed all over the world. That type of movement isn't there for solar. And the current interests in energy don't want to give up the control, power and money to decentralize energy into individuals having their own electricity with no dependence.

Our energy companies are "crown" corporations, meaning they are partly government organizations. These organizations aren't open to the idea that one day they SHOULD be obsolete and replaced with either solar, geothermal, wind, hydro, etc. renewable energy.

That's true, it's good enough but thinking about it, it's the people who can really change something. A collective effort if you think about it. It's started by a person then suddenly two or more people starting using it then boom, a whole community then it will start changing the world. It's just fantasy because like you said, they want control of the energy because they want the money produced by it and definitely it's something that is really profitable. It's just that, it's not helping the world, it's helping the controller of it.

Yeah exactly. Not everyone in the world is for solar because they might have a personal financial interest against it. And unfortunately, it is these few people that are getting in the way of mass distribution because solar is "too expensive". It's foolish to think building and installing a solar panel is too expensive. For oil, aside from the countless wars that surround oil, you need to test/drill for it to find it, build a rig on it, then transport the oil to ships, go half way around the world, get on trucks to distribute...and we consider this to be "cheaper". It's a foolish way of thinking in my opinion.

Right now, my hopes lie with Tesla to take the initiative and push the distribution of solar. Check this out...they basically converted a small island that used to use diesel fuel into a solar island: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkQBVoS9lAo

I understand that you stayed inventing a dinner of good energy sources, but it's most likely a battery pack and food. Passed did not get cars and other such systems. But to provide cities and countries with electricity, we need more reliable energy supply systems. I consider such alternative sources to be the sun and the wind. Today in the whole world, things in this plan produce perhaps 1000 enterprises. We have everything, we just need to take it and do it.

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Quote from: crwth on July 01, 2017, 11:08:42 PM

Quote from: freeyourmind on June 28, 2017, 08:18:07 PM

In terms of research, the technology that currently exists for solar panels and batteries is more than good enough. But society as a whole doesn't move in that direction, only individuals do. So it's a very slow movement. Think about cell phones. This was a very fast movement that the whole world got behind. Nothing really stood in its way. The technology was created and constantly improved, and distributed all over the world. That type of movement isn't there for solar. And the current interests in energy don't want to give up the control, power and money to decentralize energy into individuals having their own electricity with no dependence.

Our energy companies are "crown" corporations, meaning they are partly government organizations. These organizations aren't open to the idea that one day they SHOULD be obsolete and replaced with either solar, geothermal, wind, hydro, etc. renewable energy.

That's true, it's good enough but thinking about it, it's the people who can really change something. A collective effort if you think about it. It's started by a person then suddenly two or more people starting using it then boom, a whole community then it will start changing the world. It's just fantasy because like you said, they want control of the energy because they want the money produced by it and definitely it's something that is really profitable. It's just that, it's not helping the world, it's helping the controller of it.

Yeah exactly. Not everyone in the world is for solar because they might have a personal financial interest against it. And unfortunately, it is these few people that are getting in the way of mass distribution because solar is "too expensive". It's foolish to think building and installing a solar panel is too expensive. For oil, aside from the countless wars that surround oil, you need to test/drill for it to find it, build a rig on it, then transport the oil to ships, go half way around the world, get on trucks to distribute...and we consider this to be "cheaper". It's a foolish way of thinking in my opinion.

Right now, my hopes lie with Tesla to take the initiative and push the distribution of solar. Check this out...they basically converted a small island that used to use diesel fuel into a solar island: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkQBVoS9lAo

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The economics of energy has to change before the energy will change. Every modern country in the world is a money-centric society, so all decisions they make are based on the financial implications of a decision, not the humane implications. With the exception of certain Scandinavian countries, this is a world wide issue.

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Unfortunately it is the opinion of most people. I saw villages in the mountains that do not have sewer and there's never trash day. It simply dumped into a mountain stream and carries it downstream. They also do not care that the bottom has congestion from debris which affects the residents of the lower village.

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People seems to care about themselves,money,glory,and pleasure.Once time ago I spoke with a guy and told him to take off his rubbish from beach otherwise in a few years there will no exist beach for his children.His response was "I don't care at least I can enjoy the beach".We should do everything is possible that help the earth be more green and it doesn't matter how small is this act.

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Quote from: freeyourmind on June 28, 2017, 08:18:07 PM

In terms of research, the technology that currently exists for solar panels and batteries is more than good enough. But society as a whole doesn't move in that direction, only individuals do. So it's a very slow movement. Think about cell phones. This was a very fast movement that the whole world got behind. Nothing really stood in its way. The technology was created and constantly improved, and distributed all over the world. That type of movement isn't there for solar. And the current interests in energy don't want to give up the control, power and money to decentralize energy into individuals having their own electricity with no dependence.

Our energy companies are "crown" corporations, meaning they are partly government organizations. These organizations aren't open to the idea that one day they SHOULD be obsolete and replaced with either solar, geothermal, wind, hydro, etc. renewable energy.

That's true, it's good enough but thinking about it, it's the people who can really change something. A collective effort if you think about it. It's started by a person then suddenly two or more people starting using it then boom, a whole community then it will start changing the world. It's just fantasy because like you said, they want control of the energy because they want the money produced by it and definitely it's something that is really profitable. It's just that, it's not helping the world, it's helping the controller of it.

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Quote from: whaawh on June 30, 2017, 11:05:32 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 30, 2017, 10:16:09 PM

Quote from: matuson on June 30, 2017, 10:59:39 AM

All this will be possible when America sell all their reserves of fossil energy sources. The implementation of clean energy sources hindered the oil lobby, but it seems they are no longer able to stop the progress. What Americans sell their stocks this is a good sign for all of us.

We are still using fossil fuels because they are much cheaper than the renewables. There is no economic sense to use the renewable sources, when they remain unaffordable to the majority of the world population. The only renewable source which can be considered as affordable is Uranium. But with the recent anti-nuclear protests around the world, it's future looks bleak.

It seems to me that the nuclear weapon I give is still very dangerous and we have a lot of opportunities on the planet to use very different sources of alternative energy. This is the power of the wind, it is the power of the sun and even the power of water, without heating the flow of the river can transform its kinetic energy into energy.

We are talking about nuclear energy, and not about nuclear weapons. Nuclear energy is much safer than other forms of non-renewable energy. Less than 100 people have died as a result of nuclear reactor incidents during the last 40-50 years. The same figure for thermal power plants is more than 10 million. Every year, more than a million people lose their lives as a result of the pollution from the thermal power plants.

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Quote from: whaawh on June 30, 2017, 11:05:32 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 30, 2017, 10:16:09 PM

Quote from: matuson on June 30, 2017, 10:59:39 AM

All this will be possible when America sell all their reserves of fossil energy sources. The implementation of clean energy sources hindered the oil lobby, but it seems they are no longer able to stop the progress. What Americans sell their stocks this is a good sign for all of us.

We are still using fossil fuels because they are much cheaper than the renewables. There is no economic sense to use the renewable sources, when they remain unaffordable to the majority of the world population. The only renewable source which can be considered as affordable is Uranium. But with the recent anti-nuclear protests around the world, it's future looks bleak.

It seems to me that the nuclear weapon I give is still very dangerous and we have a lot of opportunities on the planet to use very different sources of alternative energy. This is the power of the wind, it is the power of the sun and even the power of water, without heating the flow of the river can transform its kinetic energy into energy.

It have its danger but it at least don't release as much CO2. True it's better to use renewable but we are not developing them fast enough to even put a break at the way we are changing the climate. Nuclear is supposed to be some sort of temporary bail out while we get our shit together.

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Quote from: Eternu on June 30, 2017, 02:05:09 PM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on June 30, 2017, 01:34:16 PM

It's not like we have a choice. Fossil fuel just ain't working good for us. We are destroying the planet because of it, not to mention starting wars.

IMHO best renewable resource would be sun and wind, since there's always an abundance of that. Fuel made from gas from biodegradable waste would also work in big cities which create a lot of trash daily. Geothermal seem to have no downside and should be pursued if available.

Yes i agree with you. I mean i am not scientist, but i do think that we could live on renewable energy. I think that it would be possible to produce enough energy from wind and sun, to satisfy our daily needs for electric energy. I hope that in future there will be more and more wind and sun power plants.

The sun would still be pumping out unimaginable amount of energy for the next couple of millennia, we just need to find ways to harness it. Same with geothermal, it's not like Earth's core would cool down anytime soon. Man, too bad I wouldn't be alive to find if humanity would be even able to build a Dyson sphere.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 30, 2017, 10:16:09 PM

Quote from: matuson on June 30, 2017, 10:59:39 AM

All this will be possible when America sell all their reserves of fossil energy sources. The implementation of clean energy sources hindered the oil lobby, but it seems they are no longer able to stop the progress. What Americans sell their stocks this is a good sign for all of us.

We are still using fossil fuels because they are much cheaper than the renewables. There is no economic sense to use the renewable sources, when they remain unaffordable to the majority of the world population. The only renewable source which can be considered as affordable is Uranium. But with the recent anti-nuclear protests around the world, it's future looks bleak.

It seems to me that the nuclear weapon I give is still very dangerous and we have a lot of opportunities on the planet to use very different sources of alternative energy. This is the power of the wind, it is the power of the sun and even the power of water, without heating the flow of the river can transform its kinetic energy into energy.

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Quote from: matuson on June 30, 2017, 10:59:39 AM

All this will be possible when America sell all their reserves of fossil energy sources. The implementation of clean energy sources hindered the oil lobby, but it seems they are no longer able to stop the progress. What Americans sell their stocks this is a good sign for all of us.

We are still using fossil fuels because they are much cheaper than the renewables. There is no economic sense to use the renewable sources, when they remain unaffordable to the majority of the world population. The only renewable source which can be considered as affordable is Uranium. But with the recent anti-nuclear protests around the world, it's future looks bleak.

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on June 30, 2017, 01:34:16 PM

It's not like we have a choice. Fossil fuel just ain't working good for us. We are destroying the planet because of it, not to mention starting wars.

IMHO best renewable resource would be sun and wind, since there's always an abundance of that. Fuel made from gas from biodegradable waste would also work in big cities which create a lot of trash daily. Geothermal seem to have no downside and should be pursued if available.

Yes i agree with you. I mean i am not scientist, but i do think that we could live on renewable energy. I think that it would be possible to produce enough energy from wind and sun, to satisfy our daily needs for electric energy. I hope that in future there will be more and more wind and sun power plants.

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It's not like we have a choice. Fossil fuel just ain't working good for us. We are destroying the planet because of it, not to mention starting wars.

IMHO best renewable resource would be sun and wind, since there's always an abundance of that. Fuel made from gas from biodegradable waste would also work in big cities which create a lot of trash daily. Geothermal seem to have no downside and should be pursued if available.

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Quote from: matuson on June 30, 2017, 10:59:39 AM

All this will be possible when America sell all their reserves of fossil energy sources. The implementation of clean energy sources hindered the oil lobby, but it seems they are no longer able to stop the progress. What Americans sell their stocks this is a good sign for all of us.

Given that America imports oil as well, it will be decades before we get to that point. Lobbying in general is pushing a product or service that people would otherwise not choose, otherwise lobbying wouldn't be necessary. Until the government, or the system that the government operates under changes its priorities, it will be as it is now, up to the individual (or company) to take the initiative and put up funds to invest in renewable energy. And although it's a good start to get things changing, those individuals currently make up a very small % of the population. Society as a whole needs to push for this for it to be implemented with scale.

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Renewable energy is one of the vital energy source in the future, there is a problem regarding this matter, storage capacity is the main barrier of this system, energy specialist still working for the improvement of the capacity system. We know that the sun is one of the main sources of this sector, wind also a vital source of renewable energy, so when it can be improved in capacity system then renewable energy will be more useful for the future demand...

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