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Topic: REPORT 5 - @THEYMOS LIST US FORBIDDEN NAMES PLEASE - ACCUSATION OF SUCHMOON - page 2. (Read 2640 times)

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Still incredibly confused, but whatever. All I care to address is your main question and related questions, I don't greatly care about any disputes individuals are caught up in. I'm just having a bit of a hard time picking out what you intended to say, but its getting clearer.

I dont really think I'm the best person to help you resolve your ongoing issue, since there seems to be a lot of prior back and forth with other moderators/admins/users and each time I make a reply, some new information comes out making my previous best guesses of the situation obsolete.

My best assumption at this point (again I'm sure it will be wrong and new info will come out as soon as I post this) is that this battle that you had previously was before the new Doxing rules were implemented. One of the quotes you have linked is from August 8th, so I'm guessing this has been a much longer ongoing thing. After August 5th, any applicable threads were moved to the Investigations board. If the threads you are talking about are still out there elsewhere, please report them and they will be moved there. As I said, my best guess at this point in time about why some users were allowed to do something and others weren't is because they were in two different times. Before and After the doxing rules came into play.

This sounds promissing, your answers are different then those from your comods/admins. You are very correct in your assumption, it goes since very lnog time and has a lot of factors, but to bring you to the starting point, it was GAW thread where suchmoon and here buddies started verbal harrasment attacks because I asked them to stop harrasing other bitcointalk users, especially newbies. This was starting point, where suchmoon tried to change it to another agenda, saying that I shill and so on. Then she created several threads spreading again lies and agenda (think on the supermarkt test from OP). This is where some trolls, which are on my ignore list, like Phildo, they come and answer somthing without even to think about it. They all knew that I am Boris, suchmoon had even conversation with me over PM, this conversation started with me stating my name. We will get much closer when you ask yourself how and why so many users do support usage of someone's name and stolen data, even when they were pointed to it, they ignored it, as well as staff and theymos which never replied. As next, I think it is alarming if you understand how low level all this is, especially how wrong the reaction from beginn until now was, I mean bitcointalk staff.

theynos replied and came to clean up after suchmoon has been doxxed and his solution was to threat and ban me. I do not understand this solution and nobody of bitcointalk staff is explaining it. Can you?

Phildo is to be banned, together with owlcats and others.
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the majority of your post made me confused as to what you were even asking/saying. The only "forbidden" names that will result in a ban are those imitating other forum members.

For example Theym0s, Saityspitoon, Sat0shi, etc. You can name yourself that of any real person you want, there are plenty who have. I have absolutely no confidence that Theymos sent you a PM saying that you couldn't be named A.Morgan. Unless you have left out 99% of the backstory.

Here is the part of the backstory that I know:

A while ago I asked boki15 to stay on topic in one of the threads where he started trolling for reasons that I can't be bothered to remember now. After EXTENSIVE attempts to clean it up ranging from direct confrontation to mod reports to PMs to complete ignore boki15 wouldn't calm down and started accusing me as well as a bunch of other users of some sort of persecution. Not quite sure exactly what he was imagining there because I was mostly ignoring him at that time, but e.g. bitpop and myself were supposedly using his real name or something like that, despite me having no idea what that name was until he started repeatedly bringing it up (basically streisanded himself).

Anyway, it looks like boki15 was trolling not just me, bitpop, Phildo, owlcatz, other users but also moderators and admins until he seems to have pissed theymos off.

So first of all I'd like to apologize to everyone involved if my past confrontation with boki15 has escalated this whole thing. Second, kudos to boki15 for finally creating a proper thread where it belongs. Hopefully this will resolve whatever issues might still exist.

You forgot about the elite super duper haxxor, me!
Boki15 PM'd me and accused me of deleting his posts.
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If any of those posts that still have his name are mine and boki informs me so i will happily star out said name with an edit.

Maybe boki can list them and action could be taken rather than trying to dox others.

Personally anyone having a flip out over someone posting a common first name should probably worry about other things.  if their surname, address etc are listed thats a serious problem and needs dealing with

P.S  Im glad we finally have a post somewhere useful to discuss this issue.  Maybe we will get it sorted out and the offtopic spam in other threads will stop
legendary
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the majority of your post made me confused as to what you were even asking/saying. The only "forbidden" names that will result in a ban are those imitating other forum members.

For example Theym0s, Saityspitoon, Sat0shi, etc. You can name yourself that of any real person you want, there are plenty who have. I have absolutely no confidence that Theymos sent you a PM saying that you couldn't be named A.Morgan. Unless you have left out 99% of the backstory.

It's is very difficult to understand what boki is talking about because he likes to ramble.

In the Ion thread, someone created the user that is currently named u848921 as a troll. That user name used to be boki's actual name. When the rule about doing was changed, that user name was changed, but all the posts that quoted that user still had B***s in the post because of how the forum works.

Instead of concisely and clearly explaining what was going on, boki rambled on for days about a conspiracy of people stealing his identity and that we were going to jail. In response, he put a name claiming to belong to suchmoon in his signature.

Eventually I figured out that boki's name was b***s and explained the situation and u848921 stopped posting eventually.

After the rules changed I guess boki was forced to change his signature, but all mentions of b***s have not been removed. Boki thinks this is some sort of conspiracy, but due to how much trouble I've had figuring this out, I'm sure that mods just haven't been able to figure out what he is rambling about.

It appears that all the posts that quoted the user have been deleted/edited/moved, but there are still some posts where people typed the name b***s instead of quoting him that still exist.
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I do believe you may have hit the nail on the head with that one.

What happened before the doxing rule came in vs trying to do the same now gets different results and outcomes.



Personally not a fan of doxing anyway.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Ok, thanks for removing it if it was again against the rules. You are not very correct in your assumption, they used my name and my private data which is stolen, it is not available on internet. We already have real crime here. Lets go deeper in next posts.

Back to topic, as they were clearly breaking law, moderation and administration were all the time full aware about everything and then they just ignored it, all the time, ass addition I was threaten by all of them, just look at mprep's pm which I posted in investigation thread.

Back to your statement:
only place with you are allowed to post someone else's personal information is on the Investigations section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0
theymos said the same, where I posted the name. Now explain me why does bitcointalk staff follow double standars. Let's start with the user who doxxed suchmoon as NAME THAT YOu FORBID TO WRITE DUE TO HYPOCRACY. Why hypocracy? Because they assumed it was me and many users including your staff were supporting it.

Great, we get closer. THIS IS USERNAME OF THE USER WHO DOXXED SUCHMOON, THIS USER SEEMS TO BE BANNED, PLEASE EDIT IF IT IS FORBIDDEN TO WRITE THE USERNAME OF THE USER WHO DOXXED SUCHMOON:
Alexandra Morgan (username of person who doxxed suchmoon)
Boris Tosovic (suchmooon and her gangbang gang using my name because they though I doxxed her)

Removr these usernames too if they break any rule. The one seems to be the real name of one bitcointalk user and the other one is my. Now I am in public known person and can always prove that it is me. For that your team tries to silence me instead to the the right thing.

Theymoss knows that this particular case is being investigated by authoritites, especially because invloved have acces to user databases and other information like medical information which is forbidden to share and it is also forbidden to accept such information and it is for sure not allowed to use it in such agenda like they did. As last, bitcointalk staff were talking part on this crime. This is what I do not understand, why does your staff take part on an crime which should end in pure silencing, especially not if your mods continue to spread myth about "Free Speech".

I can't find this user and do not want to repost the doxx.

After this, look at my Firstname Surname (or just my email) and explain why the user who used my name, addres and tel number was allowed to do it, where theymoss and moderation knew every detail about it.

You could also try to explain why was doxxing user immediatelly banned and I was banned 3 times because I pointed your staff to criminal act? Please exlplain it if you have any other explanation than Hypocracy.

EDIT:
I concentrated on posting the part that you asked for, immediately after I saw that full name was in pic and I immediatelly blured it and reuploaded. I can verify it with reposting of uploads (both) if you again do not trust my words. It is not my goal to break any rule, it is more the opposite.

Still incredibly confused, but whatever. All I care to address is your main question and related questions, I don't greatly care about any disputes individuals are caught up in. I'm just having a bit of a hard time picking out what you intended to say, but its getting clearer.

I dont really think I'm the best person to help you resolve your ongoing issue, since there seems to be a lot of prior back and forth with other moderators/admins/users and each time I make a reply, some new information comes out making my previous best guesses of the situation obsolete.

My best assumption at this point (again I'm sure it will be wrong and new info will come out as soon as I post this) is that this battle that you had previously was before the new Doxing rules were implemented. One of the quotes you have linked is from August 8th, so I'm guessing this has been a much longer ongoing thing. After August 5th, any applicable threads were moved to the Investigations board. If the threads you are talking about are still out there elsewhere, please report them and they will be moved there. As I said, my best guess at this point in time about why some users were allowed to do something and others weren't is because they were in two different times. Before and After the doxing rules came into play.

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boki please keep your rambling here and only here.  Im sure the moderators will appreciate it more than us users enjoy you trying to derail the ION thread constantly.

As for your doxing i have been following that thread for some time.  It took ages for anyone to work out you had been doxed and we only knew because you repeatedly told us someone had doxed you and then YOU pointed out the user who you claimed was using your real name.  So it was as much a self doxing as anything else.  It was so unimportant to most of us i dont even remember anything beyond Boris (which is a fairly common first name i believe) and honestly dont care to try and remember.....

P.S I still have no idea why you are claiming suchmoon was behind this.  The only people who would have any clue who was using that account would be the Moderators (or higher) who can likely check the IP address and only then if the user was dumb enough to use the same IP as they use on their main account. Your constant rambling about the "gangbang gang" doesnt help you appear same and trying to dox others is not likely to help.

As for your posts getting constantly reported please stop the off topic rambling.  Even i have reported them and i believe im still at 100% accuracy for reports...
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the majority of your post made me confused as to what you were even asking/saying. The only "forbidden" names that will result in a ban are those imitating other forum members.

For example Theym0s, Saityspitoon, Sat0shi, etc. You can name yourself that of any real person you want, there are plenty who have. I have absolutely no confidence that Theymos sent you a PM saying that you couldn't be named A.Morgan. Unless you have left out 99% of the backstory.

Here is the part of the backstory that I know:

A while ago I asked boki15 to stay on topic in one of the threads where he started trolling for reasons that I can't be bothered to remember now. After EXTENSIVE attempts to clean it up ranging from direct confrontation to mod reports to PMs to complete ignore boki15 wouldn't calm down and started accusing me as well as a bunch of other users of some sort of persecution. Not quite sure exactly what he was imagining there because I was mostly ignoring him at that time, but e.g. bitpop and myself were supposedly using his real name or something like that, despite me having no idea what that name was until he started repeatedly bringing it up (basically streisanded himself).

Anyway, it looks like boki15 was trolling not just me, bitpop, Phildo, owlcatz, other users but also moderators and admins until he seems to have pissed theymos off.

So first of all I'd like to apologize to everyone involved if my past confrontation with boki15 has escalated this whole thing. Second, kudos to boki15 for finally creating a proper thread where it belongs. Hopefully this will resolve whatever issues might still exist.

Well, you do not need to remember, I have all deleted posts and can reupload or repost them every time. Stop lying, write truth



I give you credits for social post and excusing yourself. Its just.... hmmm, you ask others who helped you, you could excuse yourself in front of me, dont you think?
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the majority of your post made me confused as to what you were even asking/saying. The only "forbidden" names that will result in a ban are those imitating other forum members.

For example Theym0s, Saityspitoon, Sat0shi, etc. You can name yourself that of any real person you want, there are plenty who have. I have absolutely no confidence that Theymos sent you a PM saying that you couldn't be named A.Morgan. Unless you have left out 99% of the backstory.

Here is the part of the backstory that I know:

A while ago I asked boki15 to stay on topic in one of the threads where he started trolling for reasons that I can't be bothered to remember now. After EXTENSIVE attempts to clean it up ranging from direct confrontation to mod reports to PMs to complete ignore boki15 wouldn't calm down and started accusing me as well as a bunch of other users of some sort of persecution. Not quite sure exactly what he was imagining there because I was mostly ignoring him at that time, but e.g. bitpop and myself were supposedly using his real name or something like that, despite me having no idea what that name was until he started repeatedly bringing it up (basically streisanded himself).

Anyway, it looks like boki15 was trolling not just me, bitpop, Phildo, owlcatz, other users but also moderators and admins until he seems to have pissed theymos off.

So first of all I'd like to apologize to everyone involved if my past confrontation with boki15 has escalated this whole thing. Second, kudos to boki15 for finally creating a proper thread where it belongs. Hopefully this will resolve whatever issues might still exist.
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Ok, thanks for removing it if it was again against the rules. You are not very correct in your assumption, they used my name and my private data which is stolen, it is not available on internet. We already have real crime here. Lets go deeper in next posts.

Back to topic, as they were clearly breaking law, moderation and administration were all the time full aware about everything and then they just ignored it, all the time, ass addition I was threaten by all of them, just look at mprep's pm which I posted in investigation thread.

Back to your statement:
only place with you are allowed to post someone else's personal information is on the Investigations section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0
theymos said the same, where I posted the name. Now explain me why does bitcointalk staff follow double standars. Let's start with the user who doxxed suchmoon as NAME THAT YOu FORBID TO WRITE DUE TO HYPOCRACY. Why hypocracy? Because they assumed it was me and many users including your staff were supporting it.

Great, we get closer. THIS IS USERNAME OF THE USER WHO DOXXED SUCHMOON, THIS USER SEEMS TO BE BANNED, PLEASE EDIT IF IT IS FORBIDDEN TO WRITE THE USERNAME OF THE USER WHO DOXXED SUCHMOON:
Alexandra Morgan (username of person who doxxed suchmoon)
Boris Tosovic (suchmooon and her gangbang gang using my name because they though I doxxed her)

Removr these usernames too if they break any rule. The one seems to be the real name of one bitcointalk user and the other one is my. Now I am in public known person and can always prove that it is me. For that your team tries to silence me instead to the the right thing.

Theymoss knows that this particular case is being investigated by authoritites, especially because invloved have acces to user databases and other information like medical information which is forbidden to share and it is also forbidden to accept such information and it is for sure not allowed to use it in such agenda like they did. As last, bitcointalk staff were talking part on this crime. This is what I do not understand, why does your staff take part on an crime which should end in pure silencing, especially not if your mods continue to spread myth about "Free Speech".

I can't find this user and do not want to repost the doxx.

After this, look at my Firstname Surname (or just my email) and explain why the user who used my name, addres and tel number was allowed to do it, where theymoss and moderation knew every detail about it.

You could also try to explain why was doxxing user immediatelly banned and I was banned 3 times because I pointed your staff to criminal act? Please exlplain it if you have any other explanation than Hypocracy.

EDIT:
I concentrated on posting the part that you asked for, immediately after I saw that full name was in pic and I immediatelly blured it and reuploaded. I can verify it with reposting of uploads (both) if you again do not trust my words. It is not my goal to break any rule, it is more the opposite.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
So this is about you posting someone's name and it being deleted due to the new no doxing rule I'd take it? I interpreted your first post as saying that you were banned for creating a forum account with a name similar to someone else's. The only place with you are allowed to post someone else's personal information is on the Investigations section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=227.0

You can read here for more info on where/when its allowed. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-investigations-board-restrictions-on-posting-personal-information-1576015


Edit* I also saw the image you had posted and that helped me better understand what you were asking. I did remove it however as I didn't want you accidentally getting in trouble for posting the name Theymos asked you not to, albeit partially blurred out. You can put it back up if you feel it necessary as I'm not 100% sure that it would constitute going against the ban warning, but I figured it would be on the safe side to do so, and since you posted the pm for my sake, I'd rather you not get banned for trying to help me help you.
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the majority of your post made me confused as to what you were even asking/saying. The only "forbidden" names that will result in a ban are those imitating other forum members.

For example Theym0s, Saityspitoon, Sat0shi, etc. You can name yourself that of any real person you want, there are plenty who have. I have absolutely no confidence that Theymos sent you a PM saying that you couldn't be named A.Morgan. Unless you have left out 99% of the backstory.

@theymos
I never post PM, I would not post it without your confirmation as it is called private. Please post your reply to me so that other users like SaltySpitoon do not question it.

@Salty
I am confused too, especially as it seems that my name is allowed to be spreaded all over the forum and used for mockups on questionable agenda which turned out to be criminal.



EDIT:
@Salty
As I am not sure that theymos is interested at all in doing the right thing after some bitcointalk members supported this agenda over months. I do not like people calling me lier, this is not whole PM, only the mentioned part in this thread, I'll give me the permission to post it as prove that I do not lie and one user already asked for it.

*Image Removed by Saltyspitoon*
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
the majority of your post made me confused as to what you were even asking/saying. The only "forbidden" names that will result in a ban are those imitating other forum members.

For example Theym0s, Saityspitoon, Sat0shi, etc. You can name yourself that of any real person you want, there are plenty who have. I have absolutely no confidence that Theymos sent you a PM saying that you couldn't be named A.Morgan. Unless you have left out 99% of the backstory.
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Please remove my first name "Boris" from to spoken thread.

@theymos sent me an PM threatening to ban me if I use again the name which many people could have, like US's soccer female star A. Morgan
This is her, just to void confussion:


If she scores, I am not allowed to comment on it on bitcointalk? Why not?

@theymos and your team, I would like to void confussion in future, can you publish a list with forbidden names on bitcointalk?


You were the one who allowed it, I am the one who is loosing time because of lack of moderation and administration here. Will you pay refund for lost time and for making work that should have been cleared long time ago by your staff and now it is again your staff that refuses to clean up their mess. Will you pay me for doing job of your colleagues?

You say one thing, then you dont hold on it, then you explain by some third thing and you dont keep on this third thing. Later you ask/tell me "I explained you 2 times", are you dumb?

Ok, great. Does anybody know what mind manipulation means? Is it allowed on this forum, I mean to manipulate someones mind by simple human brain functions? You may ask how, here is one best example, please try it and you will see that it works:

1. Go to supermarket and say that you want to test reactions if you are caught on stealing (just to be sure that you do not break law)
2. In the moment where someone tells, "You are thief, you've stolen lollypop", exactly in this moment you shold answer to this person "Who cares what a pedophile tells me?"
3. Everybody in this room will ignore the fact that you've stolen something, everybodie's brain will be busy with the question if this other person is pedophile or not.

I see such manipulation all the time on your forum, which is sadly supported by your staff and only people who are supported by your staff do things like that.

Back to topic, this is not my job to find these threads and to check where have I some access or not. You do owe me something now, these are the posts that still include names:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15860762;topicseen#msg15860762
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15793067;topicseen#msg15793067
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15790942;topicseen#msg15790942
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15719742;topicseen#msg15719742
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15717509;topicseen#msg15717509
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15684769;topicseen#msg15684769
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15676282;topicseen#msg15676282
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15363938;topicseen#msg15363938
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15363834;topicseen#msg15363834
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15363658;topicseen#msg15363658
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15363587;topicseen#msg15363587
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15363313;topicseen#msg15363313
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15362713;topicseen#msg15362713
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15347797;topicseen#msg15347797
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15347584;topicseen#msg15347584
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15344102;topicseen#msg15344102
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15341871;topicseen#msg15341871
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15338303;topicseen#msg15338303
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15328860;topicseen#msg15328860
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15325724;topicseen#msg15325724
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15323290;topicseen#msg15323290
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1443633.msg15298979;topicseen#msg15298979

But wait, I sent you already a bunch of links, they are removed. Oh no, whoever was deleting them was for sure not lazy, he/she just did not care.

Qestions:
Why do we need moderators if they do not follow rules?
Why do we need rules if nobody follows them?
How to prove legit side if publishing documents has to be done?


I accuse not only suchmoon and her gangbang gang, but some of your staff members in support of clear criminal act like identity theft.
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Cyrus, Mprep
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