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sr. member
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If you regularly have deposits exceeding $5,000...or even if you regularly just have a lot of deposits into your account that cannot easily be explained, then you are just begging to be audited. 

By declaring nothing (if you have large cap gains), you are raising such a red flag it is not even funny.

There are ways around the things of which you speak.

How would you get around this? If the deposits are in cash then each $5,000 deposit must be recorded by the bank. The iRS is able to compel you to allow them to look at your bank records.

This may not be setting up a red flag to get audited, but if you do then you would be facing stiff penalties.

In the event that the bank send a suspicious activity report (SAR) then your chances of getting audited go up and it may actually guarantee an audit depending on the circumstances.

re: Your post.

Not nearly enough education in finance and banking laws and certainly you are lacking in creativity and imagination.

Why don't you clarify as to how this would be done instead of telling someone they are uneducated when they question you.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
If you regularly have deposits exceeding $5,000...or even if you regularly just have a lot of deposits into your account that cannot easily be explained, then you are just begging to be audited. 

By declaring nothing (if you have large cap gains), you are raising such a red flag it is not even funny.

There are ways around the things of which you speak.

How would you get around this? If the deposits are in cash then each $5,000 deposit must be recorded by the bank. The iRS is able to compel you to allow them to look at your bank records.

This may not be setting up a red flag to get audited, but if you do then you would be facing stiff penalties.

In the event that the bank send a suspicious activity report (SAR) then your chances of getting audited go up and it may actually guarantee an audit depending on the circumstances.

re: Your post.

Not nearly enough education in finance and banking laws and certainly you are lacking in creativity and imagination.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
If you regularly have deposits exceeding $5,000...or even if you regularly just have a lot of deposits into your account that cannot easily be explained, then you are just begging to be audited. 

By declaring nothing (if you have large cap gains), you are raising such a red flag it is not even funny.

There are ways around the things of which you speak.

How would you get around this? If the deposits are in cash then each $5,000 deposit must be recorded by the bank. The iRS is able to compel you to allow them to look at your bank records.

This may not be setting up a red flag to get audited, but if you do then you would be facing stiff penalties.

In the event that the bank send a suspicious activity report (SAR) then your chances of getting audited go up and it may actually guarantee an audit depending on the circumstances.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
If you regularly have deposits exceeding $5,000...or even if you regularly just have a lot of deposits into your account that cannot easily be explained, then you are just begging to be audited. 

By declaring nothing (if you have large cap gains), you are raising such a red flag it is not even funny.

There are ways around the things of which you speak.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1001
This is the land of wolves now & you're not a wolf
If you regularly have deposits exceeding $5,000...or even if you regularly just have a lot of deposits into your account that cannot easily be explained, then you are just begging to be audited. 

By declaring nothing (if you have large cap gains), you are raising such a red flag it is not even funny.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Have fun in jail!

It doesn't matter if you own a pizza palor, mine bitcoins, or sell drugs.

You always owe taxes!

Why don't you move to a country where there are no capital gains tax and no income tax.

As long as you live in the US or are an US citizen you will be breaking the law and the IRS will catch up with you.



 Are you suggesting drug dealers pay taxes? Do they pay back taxes on drugs they sold when they get caught? Like he said, they have to catch him first. Cheesy

When they get caught they would owe taxes.

The government "gets" many drug dealers with charges of tax evasion.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
Have fun in jail!

It doesn't matter if you own a pizza palor, mine bitcoins, or sell drugs.

You always owe taxes!

Why don't you move to a country where there are no capital gains tax and no income tax.

As long as you live in the US or are an US citizen you will be breaking the law and the IRS will catch up with you.



 Are you suggesting drug dealers pay taxes? Do they pay back taxes on drugs they sold when they get caught? Like he said, they have to catch him first. Cheesy

Honest ones do.  Grin
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It doesn't matter if you own a pizza palor, mine bitcoins, or sell drugs.
I own a pizza parlor that sells cocaine-covered pizza, in our basement is a server farm mining Bitcoins. We've got guns. Lots of guns. We've also got solid communication and high-tech security.

We haven't paid taxes since 1989. We've got the right friends. Whatcha gonna do?



  That's fn hilarious!
member
Activity: 60
Merit: 10
Have fun in jail!

It doesn't matter if you own a pizza palor, mine bitcoins, or sell drugs.

You always owe taxes!

Why don't you move to a country where there are no capital gains tax and no income tax.

As long as you live in the US or are an US citizen you will be breaking the law and the IRS will catch up with you.



 Are you suggesting drug dealers pay taxes? Do they pay back taxes on drugs they sold when they get caught? Like he said, they have to catch him first. Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
With tax day fast approaching in the United States, the subject of Bitcoin and taxation has been all over the news lately.

Over the past several years, Bitcoin miners, investors and startups have enjoyed a huge financial boon from the Bitcoin price explosion.  As Bitcoiners, are we required to cough up real money to the IRS?

According to the US Government, we owe the IRS some cash.  Profits from Bitcoin mining are taxable and profits from Bitcoin investments fall under the capital gains tax.  Yes, we owe the government money. But should we pay?

No, I don't think so.

The power to tax is the power to destroy.  The Federal Reserve banking cartel understands the danger of Bitcoin eventually eclipsing fiat currency.  They are, frankly, terrified.  The US hasn't banned Bitcoin because it is not yet in mainstream usage.  Stores don't accept Bitcoin. Most people don't own Bitcoin.  Bitcoin might have entered the public lexicon, but it hasn't entered the public wallet.  At least not yet.

But the IRS and the Federal Reserve would love to establish a precedent of taxation for Bitcoin.  Should they eventually feel threatened enough to severely restrict it, they could easily tax Bitcoin into oblivion. 

Already the government is seeking to regulate Bitcoin as a monetary instrument, hence the recent arrests of LocalBitcoin exchangers in Florida and the indictment of Charlie Shrem.  By regulating Bitcoin, they ensure that the large Bitcoin companies (CoinBase, etc) will enjoy a monopoly, becoming extremely vulnerable to government regulation and taxation. Small players will be forced out of business and new players will have a hard time getting into the game.  This has always been the model for banking in the United States and they are applying the same restrictive template to Bitcoin. 

The government doesn't need to ban Bitcoin. All they need to do is impose taxes and regulation sufficient to keep the big Bitcoin companies on top, and the little guys out of the game.

My name is Dr. Michael Moriarty, and I own the Bitcoin Network of 50+ Bitcoin related sites, including https://BitPlastic.com, https://CoinChimp.com, https://BitLaunder.com and many more.  We are not going to pay 1 cent to the IRS or any other government agency.  Nor do we verify the identity of our customers.  Nor do we report our customer's financial transactions to any government agency whatsoever.

The beauty of Bitcoin is that the average person can use it to escape from the fiat currency ponzi scheme that characterizes our modern banking system.  By reporting your Bitcoin earnings to the IRS, you are implicitly embracing their financial scam and becoming part of it.

Beverely Rubik says 'you can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back.'  Maybe the IRS will put some arrows in my back, but they will have to find me first :-)

YES ! you are my man. screw their taxes, and provisions and everything that fills their pockets with  OUR MONEY !
they will try, they will try hard, but it is up to us to avoid feeding them.

I don't need permission from a government for my bit coin and they certainly don't have my permission to confiscate it.
legendary
Activity: 1722
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Satoshi is rolling in his grave. #bitcoin
With tax day fast approaching in the United States, the subject of Bitcoin and taxation has been all over the news lately.

Over the past several years, Bitcoin miners, investors and startups have enjoyed a huge financial boon from the Bitcoin price explosion.  As Bitcoiners, are we required to cough up real money to the IRS?

According to the US Government, we owe the IRS some cash.  Profits from Bitcoin mining are taxable and profits from Bitcoin investments fall under the capital gains tax.  Yes, we owe the government money. But should we pay?

No, I don't think so.

The power to tax is the power to destroy.  The Federal Reserve banking cartel understands the danger of Bitcoin eventually eclipsing fiat currency.  They are, frankly, terrified.  The US hasn't banned Bitcoin because it is not yet in mainstream usage.  Stores don't accept Bitcoin. Most people don't own Bitcoin.  Bitcoin might have entered the public lexicon, but it hasn't entered the public wallet.  At least not yet.

But the IRS and the Federal Reserve would love to establish a precedent of taxation for Bitcoin.  Should they eventually feel threatened enough to severely restrict it, they could easily tax Bitcoin into oblivion. 

Already the government is seeking to regulate Bitcoin as a monetary instrument, hence the recent arrests of LocalBitcoin exchangers in Florida and the indictment of Charlie Shrem.  By regulating Bitcoin, they ensure that the large Bitcoin companies (CoinBase, etc) will enjoy a monopoly, becoming extremely vulnerable to government regulation and taxation. Small players will be forced out of business and new players will have a hard time getting into the game.  This has always been the model for banking in the United States and they are applying the same restrictive template to Bitcoin. 

The government doesn't need to ban Bitcoin. All they need to do is impose taxes and regulation sufficient to keep the big Bitcoin companies on top, and the little guys out of the game.

My name is Dr. Michael Moriarty, and I own the Bitcoin Network of 50+ Bitcoin related sites, including https://BitPlastic.com, https://CoinChimp.com, https://BitLaunder.com and many more.  We are not going to pay 1 cent to the IRS or any other government agency.  Nor do we verify the identity of our customers.  Nor do we report our customer's financial transactions to any government agency whatsoever.

The beauty of Bitcoin is that the average person can use it to escape from the fiat currency ponzi scheme that characterizes our modern banking system.  By reporting your Bitcoin earnings to the IRS, you are implicitly embracing their financial scam and becoming part of it.

Beverely Rubik says 'you can recognize a pioneer by the arrows in his back.'  Maybe the IRS will put some arrows in my back, but they will have to find me first :-)

YES ! you are my man. screw their taxes, and provisions and everything that fills their pockets with  OUR MONEY !
they will try, they will try hard, but it is up to us to avoid feeding them.
hero member
Activity: 632
Merit: 500
It's not a "pro-tax" argument, it's a statement of fact: get caught and you will go to jail.

It comes down to a decision, resist injustice, or fund injustice.

This is a good point... The french revloution was a lot more than just writing letters and walking down the streets following the path the cops laid out for you.  The seat of power is NEVER given up, ever.

And look what that bloody revolution brought us.

Nothing good ever comes from violence.

The only solution to the Federal Reserve scam is to make conditions & structures that make that scam obsolete.

We have that... it's called crypto currencies.

Use them.  And simply ignore that evil system.






Oh, how silly!

Plenty of good things come from violence and as an example the preservation of life by a potential victim who chose to not be one!

You may find examples here:

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx

My $.02.

Wink



Yep, that's plenty of justification for a bloody revolution.

Now show a bloody revolution that on the other side didn't get something worse then what they started with.  The American revolution is the only one that comes to mind.  But no reason that same revolution could have happened without bloodshed simply through non-violent civil disobedience.  What's the king gonna do, if none of his "subjects" comply?  Arrest all of them?

The same psychopaths behind the Federal Reserve scam have always used bloody revolutions to cement their control.

...and those "revolutionaries" just end up being pawns in their global chess game.

Said to say, but even the American revolution was co-opted by these psychopaths when their agent Alexander Hamilton pushed through the first central bank.

And now we have the monster that is the Federal Reserve.  And with the centralization of power, any vestiges of freedom that revolution earned us are long gone.

Revolution is not the answer, the only solution to these psychopaths is to refuse to participate.  And with crypto currencies we all can refuse to participate yet conduct our biz with far greater ease & efficiency they we ever did using their scam system.








sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
It's not a "pro-tax" argument, it's a statement of fact: get caught and you will go to jail.

It comes down to a decision, resist injustice, or fund injustice.

This is a good point... The french revloution was a lot more than just writing letters and walking down the streets following the path the cops laid out for you.  The seat of power is NEVER given up, ever.

And look what that bloody revolution brought us.

Nothing good ever comes from violence.

The only solution to the Federal Reserve scam is to make conditions & structures that make that scam obsolete.

We have that... it's called crypto currencies.

Use them.  And simply ignore that evil system.






Oh, how silly!

Plenty of good things come from violence and as an example the preservation of life by a potential victim who chose to not be one!

You may find examples here:

http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx

My $.02.

Wink

hero member
Activity: 632
Merit: 500
It's not a "pro-tax" argument, it's a statement of fact: get caught and you will go to jail.

It comes down to a decision, resist injustice, or fund injustice.

This is a good point... The french revloution was a lot more than just writing letters and walking down the streets following the path the cops laid out for you.  The seat of power is NEVER given up, ever.

And look what that bloody revolution brought us.

Nothing good ever comes from violence.

The only solution to the Federal Reserve scam is to make conditions & structures that make that scam obsolete.

We have that... it's called crypto currencies.

Use them.  And simply ignore that evil system.



hero member
Activity: 632
Merit: 500
From "Office Space":

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

"Michael Bolton: We get caught laundering money, we're not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no. We're going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison."

My $.02.

Wink


Old tired tactics of fear & intimidation!

Any organization that uses fear & intimidation to get compliance you can be assured is not rooted in ethics.

And any system that uses force --  when it gets enough power -- always leads to genocide.  Show me one exception!

Such is the case with the current Federal Reserve scam.  Conducting genocide right now around the world to further cement their control.

That's what you're enabling when you let the fear & intimidation that LostDutchman is promoting here get you to comply.

Sad to see that agents who benefit from that system -- such as LostDutchman does in his incorporation biz -- are so willing to spread that system's propaganda.






newbie
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It's not a "pro-tax" argument, it's a statement of fact: get caught and you will go to jail.

It comes down to a decision, resist injustice, or fund injustice.

Feel free to take off the Guy Fawkes mask whenever you want...
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
Renounce your citizenship.
To renounce US citizenship, you go to another country that will take you. Then go to a US consulate and tell them you want to renounce US citizenship. They have you watch a video, they warn you what you're giving up, you sign some forms, they take your passport, and show you out the door. You can no longer enter the US, except maybe on a tourist visa.

Seems straightforward enough.

And............................................................................ .............

You have to have all of your taxes paid up BEFORE you get to drop your US citizenshipo.

Some catch, that Catch 22!

My $.02.

Wink
legendary
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Renounce your citizenship.
To renounce US citizenship, you go to another country that will take you. Then go to a US consulate and tell them you want to renounce US citizenship. They have you watch a video, they warn you what you're giving up, you sign some forms, they take your passport, and show you out the door. You can no longer enter the US, except maybe on a tourist visa.

Seems straightforward enough.
legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
Renounce your citizenship.
To renounce US citizenship, you go to another country that will take you. Then go to a US consulate and tell them you want to renounce US citizenship. They have you watch a video, they warn you what you're giving up, you sign some forms, they take your passport, and show you out the door. You can no longer enter the US, except maybe on a tourist visa.
and where do they send you?   back into the USA?   and how do you travel anywhere else?
sr. member
Activity: 476
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From "Office Space":

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

"Michael Bolton: We get caught laundering money, we're not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no. We're going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison."

My $.02.

Wink
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