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Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.

I've already proven that I'm willing to remove feedback by removing feedback from nexusmining. Like I said, I've reached out to der_troll who has simply ignored my PM's. I'm willing to remove that negative feedback, der_troll just has to be willing to do the same and get in touch with me.



Looks like you succeeded in using default trust in order to coerce someone else into removing their negative feedback against you. Good for you. That makes you and CanaryInTheMine look like upstanding people who definitely deserve to be in the default trust network, and certainly doesn't lend any credence to other claims that may or may not be true /s. 

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Well technically speaking he did not succeed, and I used my words/logic to get him to remove his trust on me.

Hopefully he will see that this is not the first time he has done this and will remove him.

I clearly stated that the removal of the negative trust was due to my opinion changing and of no help from you. I do not believe in your logic still.

"Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference"
Well either way, you intent was still of that to coerce me into getting me to stop leaving negative trust to people who I though were scamming.
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Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.

I've already proven that I'm willing to remove feedback by removing feedback from nexusmining. Like I said, I've reached out to der_troll who has simply ignored my PM's. I'm willing to remove that negative feedback, der_troll just has to be willing to do the same and get in touch with me.



Looks like you succeeded in using default trust in order to coerce someone else into removing their negative feedback against you. Good for you. That makes you and CanaryInTheMine look like upstanding people who definitely deserve to be in the default trust network, and certainly doesn't lend any credence to other claims that may or may not be true /s.  

 Embarrassed
Well technically speaking he did not succeed, and I used my words/logic to get him to remove his trust on me.

Hopefully he will see that this is not the first time he has done this and will remove him.

I clearly stated that the removal of the negative trust was due to my opinion changing and of no help from you. I do not believe in your logic still. Anyways, its not blackmail just merely the fact that I don't trust his judgment. Hence the negative trust...

"Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference"
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Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.

I've already proven that I'm willing to remove feedback by removing feedback from nexusmining. Like I said, I've reached out to der_troll who has simply ignored my PM's. I'm willing to remove that negative feedback, der_troll just has to be willing to do the same and get in touch with me.



Looks like you succeeded in using default trust in order to coerce someone else into removing their negative feedback against you. Good for you. That makes you and CanaryInTheMine look like upstanding people who definitely deserve to be in the default trust network, and certainly doesn't lend any credence to other claims that may or may not be true /s. 

 Embarrassed
Well technically speaking he did not succeed, and I used my words/logic to get him to remove his trust on me.

Hopefully he will see that this is not the first time he has done this and will remove him.
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It means it would be quite hypocritical for BadBear not to remove you.
Well, that's what I get for sending trust to someone who I believe did not accurately place trust on others...

 I guess we shall see what happens.
legendary
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It means it would be quite hypocritical for BadBear not to remove you.
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Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.

I've already proven that I'm willing to remove feedback by removing feedback from nexusmining. Like I said, I've reached out to der_troll who has simply ignored my PM's. I'm willing to remove that negative feedback, der_troll just has to be willing to do the same and get in touch with me.



Looks like you succeeded in using default trust in order to coerce someone else into removing their negative feedback against you. Good for you. That makes you and CanaryInTheMine look like upstanding people who definitely deserve to be in the default trust network, and certainly doesn't lend any credence to other claims that may or may not be true /s. 

 Embarrassed

What exactly does that mean? Its late and I don't quite follow...
legendary
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Given that the topic of this thread is your feedback against those companies, and that it depends on circumstances changing (being able to prove they aren't a ponzi), I would think you would jump at the chance to show you are trustworthy and fair with your ratings, and that you do intend to change feedback as circumstances change. Being in default trust network doesn't mean everyone trusts you, just that the one person who put you on their list does.

I've already proven that I'm willing to remove feedback by removing feedback from nexusmining. Like I said, I've reached out to der_troll who has simply ignored my PM's. I'm willing to remove that negative feedback, der_troll just has to be willing to do the same and get in touch with me.



Looks like you succeeded in using default trust in order to coerce someone else into removing their negative feedback against you. Good for you. That makes you and CanaryInTheMine look like upstanding people who definitely deserve to be in the default trust network, and certainly doesn't lend any credence to other claims that may or may not be true /s. 

 Embarrassed
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Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference
sr. member
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I'm a Web Developer: HTML, CSS, PHP, JS.
Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference
I still stand by my request to have him removed from BadBears list. This is the 2nd time you have removed negative trust after your blackmail has not worked. I am not sure what happened with rammy2k2, however this clearly shows that he is willing to use his position to get people to say (or not say) certain things

Go on with your request.

I do suggest you change the trust you've sent to all the Ponzi Games and reword them. Right now all you say is "ponzi" when that's a lie because they are "Ponzi games"... You don't like them because they are ponzi games and they have capacity to scam. Put the truth.
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Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference
I still stand by my request to have him removed from BadBears list. This is the 2nd time you have removed negative trust after your blackmail has not worked. I am not sure what happened with rammy2k2, however this clearly shows that he is willing to use his position to get people to say (or not say) certain things
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michaeladair has supported the site on several occasions. 
showing transactions in blockchain dosent mean u are investing anything.
negative feedback till u show solid proofs
He has been paying out so there is no real reason to show his proof. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty so I'd very much like it if you removed that negative trust. You don't have to but I'll have mine on you till you do so.
I'm interested in investing though im curious, where can we say you have the balance to pay us? The repayment address only has .03BTC in it.
Thanks
It gets transferred over from various sources back into there then it gets sent out to repay people. That's what I believe is happening... because you can see that money keeps going into it at about the same time that payouts are made.
Above are quotes that I quoted in my scam accusation against bitcoin-stocks which you were supporting. Let me know if you want to dispute either of them.

One other things: I was notified via PM that you were blackmailing rammy2k2 to remove his negative trust on bitcoin-stocks.
PM received:
showing transactions in blockchain dosent mean u are investing anything.
negative feedback till u show solid proofs
He has been paying out so there is no real reason to show his proof. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty so I'd very much like it if you removed that negative trust. You don't have to but I'll have mine on you till you do so.

why refuse to show how u invest ?
as investor i would like to know what u do with my money.

all that blackmail with negative trust wont make u no good either  Wink
Hi,

I saw that you posted the above in a HYIP thread. Can you give me more details about this statement? (especially the bolded part)

yes, he threatened me he has many friends on this forum who are ready to leave me negative trust if i keep posting about his ponzi.
that wont stop me tho Smiley

I already replied to these on various occasions... Its because I believe that the site was doing nothing wrong at the time because it was paying out. People should use caution at times but that doesn't mean its gonna be a scam.



Negative trust removed, not because of this thread but due to a change in opinion of mine: reference

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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michaeladair has supported the site on several occasions. 
showing transactions in blockchain dosent mean u are investing anything.
negative feedback till u show solid proofs
He has been paying out so there is no real reason to show his proof. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty so I'd very much like it if you removed that negative trust. You don't have to but I'll have mine on you till you do so.
I'm interested in investing though im curious, where can we say you have the balance to pay us? The repayment address only has .03BTC in it.
Thanks
It gets transferred over from various sources back into there then it gets sent out to repay people. That's what I believe is happening... because you can see that money keeps going into it at about the same time that payouts are made.
Above are quotes that I quoted in my scam accusation against bitcoin-stocks which you were supporting. Let me know if you want to dispute either of them.

One other things: I was notified via PM that you were blackmailing rammy2k2 to remove his negative trust on bitcoin-stocks.
PM received:
showing transactions in blockchain dosent mean u are investing anything.
negative feedback till u show solid proofs
He has been paying out so there is no real reason to show his proof. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty so I'd very much like it if you removed that negative trust. You don't have to but I'll have mine on you till you do so.

why refuse to show how u invest ?
as investor i would like to know what u do with my money.

all that blackmail with negative trust wont make u no good either  Wink
Hi,

I saw that you posted the above in a HYIP thread. Can you give me more details about this statement? (especially the bolded part)

yes, he threatened me he has many friends on this forum who are ready to leave me negative trust if i keep posting about his ponzi.
that wont stop me tho Smiley
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Where the hell do you get off saying that I hack accounts now, and why would I hack redsnows account... I admire him as an escrow even though he messed up a little.
Both you and Spodermen were actively pushing/promoting bitcoin-stocks. This makes me believe that you are either one and the same or are partners with him. It is confirmed that Spodermen was selling hacked accounts.

I do not know for sure that was your rationale behind blackmailing me into removing my trust left for Redsn0w, however I am fairly confident that it was more then "he is your friend"

I was pushing bitcoinstocks while I had money in it cause it seemed like a legit gig at the time.

Also, I have had no contact with redsnow in the past. I was just perusing the forums and saw he was in trouble and I had an opinion on the matter. A strong one at that.
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I sent you negative trust because I view your trust that you are currently sending is false and misguided. Also I've been on the trust list for a long ass time son. I was a supporter of bitcoin stocks for the time that they were paying out, I kept reinvesting and they kept paying. But I did not condone their activities when they ran.
Like I have said many times, anyone who gives negative trust for "trust abuse" is not someone whose trust reports I value. That is exactly what you have now done twice.
I don't believe that gambling sites deserve negative trust, I made a thread for that and we are currently disputing it. The odds are against you on it.
If you have successfully traded with them then you should give them positive trust. People have the option of looking at what I posted and deciding if they should trust them or not.
Does this also mean that me and redsn0w are also in cahoots? It seems like we are just protecting members of the community rather than "teammates". Plus, even if I was working with him as a friend what'd be wrong with that?
You were trying to censor my honest feedback. The fact that I tied you to someone who sells hacked accounts leads me to believe that you will likely attempt to hack Redsn0w's account sometime in the future and want his reputation as pristine as possible for when you do so.

Please tell me how this whole get Michael off the trust list works,
           Love, Michael.
Will do thanks

Where the hell do you get off saying that I hack accounts now, and why would I hack redsnows account... I admire him as an escrow even though he messed up a little.
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Where the hell do you get off saying that I hack accounts now, and why would I hack redsnows account... I admire him as an escrow even though he messed up a little.
Both you and Spodermen were actively pushing/promoting bitcoin-stocks. This makes me believe that you are either one and the same or are partners with him. It is confirmed that Spodermen was selling hacked accounts.

I do not know for sure that was your rationale behind blackmailing me into removing my trust left for Redsn0w, however I am fairly confident that it was more then "he is your friend"

If you were to hack his account you would likely use it the same way every other recently hacked account was used for - to try to scam - since it has a decent amount of trust it probably could get a pretty large take
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I sent you negative trust because I view your trust that you are currently sending is false and misguided.
0 reason to do so. Redsn0w screwed up an escrow job and therefore has been marked as untrustworthy. Leaving negative trust in retaliation to negative trust placed on redsn0w by Quickseller is child's play and immature as hell.

Thats referring to the negative trust left on every ponzi game in existence on this forum not the redsnow incident.



I sent you negative trust because I view your trust that you are currently sending is false and misguided. Also I've been on the trust list for a long ass time son. I was a supporter of bitcoin stocks for the time that they were paying out, I kept reinvesting and they kept paying. But I did not condone their activities when they ran.
Like I have said many times, anyone who gives negative trust for "trust abuse" is not someone whose trust reports I value. That is exactly what you have now done twice.
I don't believe that gambling sites deserve negative trust, I made a thread for that and we are currently disputing it. The odds are against you on it.
If you have successfully traded with them then you should give them positive trust. People have the option of looking at what I posted and deciding if they should trust them or not.
Does this also mean that me and redsn0w are also in cahoots? It seems like we are just protecting members of the community rather than "teammates". Plus, even if I was working with him as a friend what'd be wrong with that?
You were trying to censor my honest feedback. The fact that I tied you to someone who sells hacked accounts leads me to believe that you will likely attempt to hack Redsn0w's account sometime in the future and want his reputation as pristine as possible for when you do so.

Please tell me how this whole get Michael off the trust list works,
           Love, Michael.
Will do thanks

Where the hell do you get off saying that I hack accounts now, and why would I hack redsnows account... I admire him as an escrow even though he messed up a little.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
copper member
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I sent you negative trust because I view your trust that you are currently sending is false and misguided. Also I've been on the trust list for a long ass time son. I was a supporter of bitcoin stocks for the time that they were paying out, I kept reinvesting and they kept paying. But I did not condone their activities when they ran.
Like I have said many times, anyone who gives negative trust for "trust abuse" is not someone whose trust reports I value. That is exactly what you have now done twice.
I don't believe that gambling sites deserve negative trust, I made a thread for that and we are currently disputing it. The odds are against you on it.
If you have successfully traded with them then you should give them positive trust. People have the option of looking at what I posted and deciding if they should trust them or not.
Does this also mean that me and redsn0w are also in cahoots? It seems like we are just protecting members of the community rather than "teammates". Plus, even if I was working with him as a friend what'd be wrong with that?
You were trying to censor my honest feedback. The fact that I tied you to someone who sells hacked accounts leads me to believe that you will likely attempt to hack Redsn0w's account sometime in the future and want his reputation as pristine as possible for when you do so.

Please tell me how this whole get Michael off the trust list works,
           Love, Michael.
Will do thanks
legendary
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He constantly promotes scammy websites. He was a massive proponent of Bitcoin-stocks which was an obvious front for his ponzi. After the collapse his response was that he is:

Michaeladair you got kicked in the face! Told you this guy ain't paying out shit! He also deleted all of my posts.

Anyone who sent anyone negative rep because you believed Plutonium was going to pay you out is now screwed over.

I should have made the bet with Michael yesterday. I would have won today 😀
Yeah, I get kicked in the face a lot for trusting humanity. It's one of my flaws.
I just don't see how disbelief to all that has not a lot of proof is a good way to go about life.


Yet you're STILL promoting and supporting other ponzis??  Huh

Just in nextponzi, it seemed a bit legit... but now it's having some bugs and problems so Idk.

Nextponzi is already offline and gone.

Someone that is "too trusting in humanity" and massive proponent of scams is monitoring other people for whether they are trustworthy.
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sucker got hacked and screwed --Toad
I sent you negative trust because I view your trust that you are currently sending is false and misguided.
0 reason to do so. Redsn0w screwed up an escrow job and therefore has been marked as untrustworthy. Leaving negative trust in retaliation to negative trust placed on redsn0w by Quickseller is child's play and immature as hell.
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I sent you negative trust because I view your trust that you are currently sending is false and misguided. Also I've been on the trust list for a long ass time son. I was a supporter of bitcoin stocks for the time that they were paying out, I kept reinvesting and they kept paying. But I did not condone their activities when they ran.

I don't believe that gambling sites deserve negative trust, I made a thread for that and we are currently disputing it. The odds are against you on it.

Does this also mean that me and redsn0w are also in cahoots? It seems like we are just protecting members of the community rather than "teammates". Plus, even if I was working with him as a friend what'd be wrong with that?

Please tell me how this whole get Michael off the trust list works,
           Love, Michael.
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