Requesting 0.5 BTC loan for two days, real collateral.

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Quote from: jambola2 on July 26, 2016, 03:32:11 AM

I don't get why most people are hounding OP about proving he owns this account.
Even if he doesn't, but provides valid collateral and then defaults, the lender can just sell the collateral.

There is more concern in the collateral though.
There have been accusations that it isn't a safe investment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455773.new

OP, could you please link to any forums or sale site where people are willing to buy Mycelium crowdsale tokens for BTC?
If you can prove that in case you default, the lender can quickly get their money back, they'd be more willing to help.

You can't sell an account that's not yours.

OP, you see that no one is rushing to give you a loan, and you were told what the problem is. You may want to modify your request.

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Quote from: jambola2 on July 26, 2016, 03:32:11 AM

I don't get why most people are hounding OP about proving he owns this account.
Even if he doesn't, but provides valid collateral and then defaults, the lender can just sell the collateral.

There is more concern in the collateral though.
There have been accusations that it isn't a safe investment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455773.new

OP, could you please link to any forums or sale site where people are willing to buy Mycelium crowdsale tokens for BTC?
If you can prove that in case you default, the lender can quickly get their money back, they'd be more willing to help.

Man, I wont beg for a loan here, I prefer to be broke than be begging here for a loan, it will give me more bad luck. Thanks

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I don't get why most people are hounding OP about proving he owns this account.
Even if he doesn't, but provides valid collateral and then defaults, the lender can just sell the collateral.

There is more concern in the collateral though.
There have been accusations that it isn't a safe investment: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1455773.new

OP, could you please link to any forums or sale site where people are willing to buy Mycelium crowdsale tokens for BTC?
If you can prove that in case you default, the lender can quickly get their money back, they'd be more willing to help.

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Quote from: Omega.SportSciencie on July 25, 2016, 05:48:14 PM

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on July 24, 2016, 08:34:55 PM

It would help lenders here to verify your identity if you can post a signed message from an old BTC address that you posted 3 months or older.
There's a gap of posting in your post history of about 22 days gap from the June 23 and you resurfaced again July 15.

Signing addresses is only useful if the person is using the account as collateral.
As this user isn't, it is not necessary for them to post it - but it can't hurt to post it anywa
A recent 22 days is very ood and - not suggesting anything - is a period where something else may have ahppened such as the transfer of the owner of an account (such as loan collateral) or it could just be a holiday OP took?

Agreed, the collateral here should be enough to consider if the loan is made or not, also what is wrong if I didn't post for 22 days? if you dont have auto-log in, enter the forum but dont see anything to post on you can reach a month without posts, hacked or traded accounts can have less than 5 days of absenteeism and still hacked.

Account sales do take some time though in order to be done so some sort of delay is expected!
The account only needs signing if that is taken as collateral itself as you need to prove it is in the ownership of both users by having a signed message.
Inactivity can be caused by many things, auto login wouldn't be one I don't think as I always log in to view the recent unread replies and the unread replies on this forum to engage better in iscussions not based on searching individual boards.

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Quote from: jackg on July 25, 2016, 05:35:37 PM

Quote from: DaddyMonsi on July 24, 2016, 08:34:55 PM

It would help lenders here to verify your identity if you can post a signed message from an old BTC address that you posted 3 months or older.
There's a gap of posting in your post history of about 22 days gap from the June 23 and you resurfaced again July 15.

Signing addresses is only useful if the person is using the account as collateral.
As this user isn't, it is not necessary for them to post it - but it can't hurt to post it anywa
A recent 22 days is very ood and - not suggesting anything - is a period where something else may have ahppened such as the transfer of the owner of an account (such as loan collateral) or it could just be a holiday OP took?

Agreed, the collateral here should be enough to consider if the loan is made or not, also what is wrong if I didn't post for 22 days? if you dont have auto-log in, enter the forum but dont see anything to post on you can reach a month without posts, hacked or traded accounts can have less than 5 days of absenteeism and still hacked.

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on July 24, 2016, 08:34:55 PM

It would help lenders here to verify your identity if you can post a signed message from an old BTC address that you posted 3 months or older.
There's a gap of posting in your post history of about 22 days gap from the June 23 and you resurfaced again July 15.

Signing addresses is only useful if the person is using the account as collateral.
As this user isn't, it is not necessary for them to post it - but it can't hurt to post it anywa
A recent 22 days is very ood and - not suggesting anything - is a period where something else may have ahppened such as the transfer of the owner of an account (such as loan collateral) or it could just be a holiday OP took?

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Quote from: knightkon on July 25, 2016, 04:56:55 PM

This forum is not dead, only lending pennies. I have over 2 BTC in loans out right now. However the collateral you are asking to use is not worth the value I am looking at right now. I could be wrong, but I created an account just to be able to fund this account and I do not see where I can sell your collateral in the event you default. Please explain.

The collateral can be sold OTC or wait until it gets into an exchange, the creator of mycelium is not a scammer, so it is only a matter of time and in the meantime you can always trade it over the counter.

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This forum is not dead, only lending pennies. I have over 2 BTC in loans out right now. However the collateral you are asking to use is not worth the value I am looking at right now. I could be wrong, but I created an account just to be able to fund this account and I do not see where I can sell your collateral in the event you default. Please explain.

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Quote from: zazarb on July 25, 2016, 03:13:12 AM

Quote from: Omega.SportSciencie on July 24, 2016, 10:06:06 PM

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Quote from: Omega.SportSciencie on July 24, 2016, 10:01:51 PM

It looks like that address was from some online wallet or service, but if you see in the block chain there are some other addresses that made txs with it, like these 13kZmu4iwF2AqNv1G5ahV8LFwGffRgCDVe or 18PA4EYfFLfGRBZJvo8SH5KNCJ1btQ1MGJ , and now with the new blockchain.info wallet I cant find the signing tool so the private keys are 85donho5xfF3he2ArH662gcqQtym3LPq24hE6M5zv35A and vp5JFUE7MZVQb4usM49ToczikPekAMtfoxEynEbKbop respectively, I dont use that wallet anymore.

Well that kinda sucks for you. There have been way too many hacks around here by people asking for loans, so it's not likely anyone is going to take a chance with you.

Bud, please go to make your signature spam elsewhere, I said I do not remember to what wallet that address belong, I dont use only "one" .

Edit: Yeah, but I am offering around 500-800 $ in collateral Wink

, i am not asking for free and I offered other ways of identity virification.

As far as I remember, signed msgs were used when trading accounts, I am not trading a forum account.
Why do you showed up with that signed msgs yelling if this account 200 activity barely worths 0.1, you did not understand that I never put the account as collateral.

usual but not necessarily, no need if you offer collateral which can easily and instantly sell, in you case collateral still are not traded on. since you account have some value, It can be seen as an additional guarantor, even without holding him,
but it is only valid if you have proof of ownership.

Ok just for the trust, I am lowering the loan request amount to 0.35 for the 0.5 worth so I have more to lose if not repaid.

PD: I expected to see a lot of Jews wanting my money but this forum section looks dead, only loaning pennies.

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Quote from: Omega.SportSciencie on July 24, 2016, 10:06:06 PM

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 24, 2016, 10:04:16 PM

Quote from: Omega.SportSciencie on July 24, 2016, 10:01:51 PM

It looks like that address was from some online wallet or service, but if you see in the block chain there are some other addresses that made txs with it, like these 13kZmu4iwF2AqNv1G5ahV8LFwGffRgCDVe or 18PA4EYfFLfGRBZJvo8SH5KNCJ1btQ1MGJ , and now with the new blockchain.info wallet I cant find the signing tool so the private keys are 85donho5xfF3he2ArH662gcqQtym3LPq24hE6M5zv35A and vp5JFUE7MZVQb4usM49ToczikPekAMtfoxEynEbKbop respectively, I dont use that wallet anymore.

Well that kinda sucks for you. There have been way too many hacks around here by people asking for loans, so it's not likely anyone is going to take a chance with you.

Bud, please go to make your signature spam elsewhere, I said I do not remember to what wallet that address belong, I dont use only "one" .

Edit: Yeah, but I am offering around 500-800 $ in collateral Wink

, i am not asking for free and I offered other ways of identity virification.

As far as I remember, signed msgs were used when trading accounts, I am not trading a forum account.
Why do you showed up with that signed msgs yelling if this account 200 activity barely worths 0.1, you did not understand that I never put the account as collateral.

usual but not necessarily, no need if you offer collateral which can easily and instantly sell, in you case collateral still are not traded on. since you account have some value, It can be seen as an additional guarantor, even without holding him,
but it is only valid if you have proof of ownership.

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Quote from: HatakeKakashi on July 24, 2016, 10:47:14 PM

The problem is, if you had asked for 0.5BTC loan for 2 weeks or more, it would sound safe. However, you are asking for that in 2 days. It seems not right. Users are afraid to loan you if you can only wait 2 more days for that sum.

Because I will not lie just to look "ordinary" ( that is what scammers do Wink

), in two days I will get enough BTCs and I am paying the 0.05 for the action, thats all.
I can return them in two weeks if you want, for me better.

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The problem is, if you had asked for 0.5BTC loan for 2 weeks or more, it would sound safe. However, you are asking for that in 2 days. It seems not right. Users are afraid to loan you if you can only wait 2 more days for that sum.

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I still have all the domains listed for sale here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14092421 , to prove account ownership.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on July 24, 2016, 10:04:16 PM

Quote from: Omega.SportSciencie on July 24, 2016, 10:01:51 PM

It looks like that address was from some online wallet or service, but if you see in the block chain there are some other addresses that made txs with it, like these 13kZmu4iwF2AqNv1G5ahV8LFwGffRgCDVe or 18PA4EYfFLfGRBZJvo8SH5KNCJ1btQ1MGJ , and now with the new blockchain.info wallet I cant find the signing tool so the private keys are 85donho5xfF3he2ArH662gcqQtym3LPq24hE6M5zv35A and vp5JFUE7MZVQb4usM49ToczikPekAMtfoxEynEbKbop respectively, I dont use that wallet anymore.

Well that kinda sucks for you. There have been way too many hacks around here by people asking for loans, so it's not likely anyone is going to take a chance with you.

Bud, please go to make your signature spam elsewhere, I said I do not remember to what wallet that address belong, I dont use only "one" .

Edit: Yeah, but I am offering around 500-800 $ in collateral Wink

, i am not asking for free and I offered other ways of identity virification.

As far as I remember, signed msgs were used when trading accounts, I am not trading a forum account.
Why do you showed up with that signed msgs yelling if this account 200 activity barely worths 0.1, you did not understand that I never put the account as collateral.

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Quote from: Omega.SportSciencie on July 24, 2016, 10:01:51 PM

It looks like that address was from some online wallet or service, but if you see in the block chain there are some other addresses that made txs with it, like these 13kZmu4iwF2AqNv1G5ahV8LFwGffRgCDVe or 18PA4EYfFLfGRBZJvo8SH5KNCJ1btQ1MGJ , and now with the new blockchain.info wallet I cant find the signing tool so the private keys are 85donho5xfF3he2ArH662gcqQtym3LPq24hE6M5zv35A and vp5JFUE7MZVQb4usM49ToczikPekAMtfoxEynEbKbop respectively, I dont use that wallet anymore.

Well that kinda sucks for you. There have been way too many hacks around here by people asking for loans, so it's not likely anyone is going to take a chance with you.

Edit: Bud, you're the one who's asking for a $330 loan and can't sign a message. I'm not the one you should be mad at.

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It looks like that address was from some online wallet or service I dont remember clearly, but if you see in the block chain there are some other addresses that made txs with it, like these 13kZmu4iwF2AqNv1G5ahV8LFwGffRgCDVe or 18PA4EYfFLfGRBZJvo8SH5KNCJ1btQ1MGJ , and now with the new blockchain.info wallet I cant find the signing tool so the private keys are 85donho5xfF3he2ArH662gcqQtym3LPq24hE6M5zv35A and vp5JFUE7MZVQb4usM49ToczikPekAMtfoxEynEbKbop respectively, I dont use that wallet anymore.

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Quote from: Atomicat on July 24, 2016, 09:34:29 PM

Can you sign a message from this bitcoin address address 1HEV1QGmU2o4ZvabH2uRqFRx1jf6CqqLH6 ?
It was posted here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11856720

Sure give me a minute.

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Can you sign a message from this bitcoin address address 1HEV1QGmU2o4ZvabH2uRqFRx1jf6CqqLH6 ?
It was posted here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11856720

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on July 24, 2016, 08:34:55 PM

It would help lenders here to verify your identity if you can post a signed message from an old BTC address that you posted 3 months or older.
There's a gap of posting in your post history of about 22 days gap from the June 23 and you resurfaced again July 15.

Yes my activity is low, I am offering shares of Mycelium as collateral not the forum account.

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It would help lenders here to verify your identity if you can post a signed message from an old BTC address that you posted 3 months or older.
There's a gap of posting in your post history of about 22 days gap from the June 23 and you resurfaced again July 15.

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