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newbie
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June 09, 2013, 10:02:07 AM
#38
Considering that the CIA did invite Gavin for a presentation says something.

Has anyone considered that Bitcoin is an inside job? The CIA is learning from it's developers and leaves it alone, the government is forming regulatory bodies for Bitcoin, The NSA probably built it themselves and the only people
without clearance are the FBI because, well they're the FBI. Just think of the Silly things the FBI has said about it," people may use it for funding terrorism! yes, they most definitely will, but not to worry, we have their blockchain address."
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1008
CEO of IOHK
June 09, 2013, 03:07:09 AM
#37
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The government is some 22 million people.
Some of them may like bitcoins, some may not. 
The different parts often don't know each other.
To think that "the government" acts as a single entity, that is as naive as thinking that bitcoin acts as a single entity.

New I think we both have something in common.
donator
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1047
I outlived my lifetime membership:)
June 09, 2013, 03:03:45 AM
#36
Maybe I'm naive...but, the CIA can't release anything about Bitcoin? Surely there's plenty that is no secret to anybody...like notes from Gavin's presentation.

Perhaps the FBI would be better to ask?
I have one out with them, too, from last summer.  They said I should be getting it this month.

I started the one with the CIA last month, so they were a lot faster.
Strong work man!
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
Gresham's Lawyer
June 08, 2013, 03:41:50 PM
#35
OP I have one simple question for you: why tha eff are you poking the bear?
It's not "poking the bear."  The government isn't out to get us; I'm sure they would have done more to try and prevent Bitcoin trading if they were.

You must be young because you're quite naive.
Alright, what makes you think that the government is out to shut down Bitcoin?  I don't want conjecture, I want a source or a quote.

The government is some 22 million people.
Some of them may like bitcoins, some may not. 
The different parts often don't know each other.
To think that "the government" acts as a single entity, that is as naive as thinking that bitcoin acts as a single entity.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
June 08, 2013, 01:55:08 PM
#34
OP I have one simple question for you: why tha eff are you poking the bear?
It's not "poking the bear."  The government isn't out to get us; I'm sure they would have done more to try and prevent Bitcoin trading if they were.

You must be young because you're quite naive.
Alright, what makes you think that the government is out to shut down Bitcoin?  I don't want conjecture, I want a source or a quote.
legendary
Activity: 916
Merit: 1003
June 08, 2013, 01:53:55 PM
#33
OP I have one simple question for you: why tha eff are you poking the bear?
It's not "poking the bear."  The government isn't out to get us; I'm sure they would have done more to try and prevent Bitcoin trading if they were.

You must be young because you're quite naive.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
June 08, 2013, 01:50:54 PM
#32
Maybe I'm naive...but, the CIA can't release anything about Bitcoin? Surely there's plenty that is no secret to anybody...like notes from Gavin's presentation.

Perhaps the FBI would be better to ask?
I have one out with them, too, from last summer.  They said I should be getting it this month.

I started the one with the CIA last month, so they were a lot faster.
donator
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1047
I outlived my lifetime membership:)
June 08, 2013, 01:49:12 PM
#31
Maybe I'm naive...but, the CIA can't release anything about Bitcoin? Surely there's plenty that is no secret to anybody...like notes from Gavin's presentation.

Perhaps the FBI would be better to ask?
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
June 08, 2013, 01:37:01 PM
#30
OP I have one simple question for you: why tha eff are you poking the bear?
It's not "poking the bear."  The government isn't out to get us; I'm sure they would have done more to try and prevent Bitcoin trading if they were.
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
June 08, 2013, 01:20:44 PM
#29
I doubt that there are many things you would be able to get from the CIA that would be unclassified.

At the very least it would be Unclassified FOUO (For official use only). Which is akin to a corporate document that is only allowed to be viewed by people within that corporation. Just the mere fact that the CIA took some news story on Bitcoin and sent that story on makes it FOUO because the knowledge that they are looking into such information is not for outside eyes.

The term "can neither confirm nor deny" is supposed to be used for just about anything when it comes to information about what may or may not be going on in your facility.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1008
CEO of IOHK
June 08, 2013, 01:13:11 PM
#28
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Or just tell your SSO.

Of course he will likely tell you to fill out some form online


Then you have to disclose that travel for the next 10 years on all future clearance paperwork.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3598
Merit: 2386
Viva Ut Vivas
June 08, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
#27
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I want a clearance lol

No you don't it's a pain in the ass. You even have to fill out forms to travel abroad.

Or just tell your SSO.

Of course he will likely tell you to fill out some form online Tongue


Then you have to disclose that travel for the next 10 years on all future clearance paperwork.
legendary
Activity: 916
Merit: 1003
June 08, 2013, 12:36:27 PM
#26
OP I have one simple question for you: why tha eff are you poking the bear?
legendary
Activity: 905
Merit: 1000
June 08, 2013, 12:35:04 PM
#25
You are correct in that the vast majority (if not all) of whatever info they have collected on Bitcoin is publicly available.

How it works, source code, exchange volumes, nodes, major players, any known persons-of-interest.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1008
If you want to walk on water, get out of the boat
June 08, 2013, 06:37:57 AM
#24
I suppose they don't know more than bitcoin than us  Undecided Their documents are at most copy-paste of this forum, or the source codes of the bitcoin clients  Undecided
member
Activity: 112
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June 08, 2013, 02:04:01 AM
#23
Fuck the CIA! It is time for a revolution!
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1105
WalletScrutiny.com
June 08, 2013, 02:03:42 AM
#22
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I want a clearance lol

No you don't it's a pain in the ass. You even have to fill out forms to travel abroad.
I assume the fact(?) that you may not travel wherever you want to might be more of an issue than to have to tell it to your boss. Heard Cuba is nice Wink
legendary
Activity: 905
Merit: 1000
June 08, 2013, 12:17:58 AM
#21
Maybe I'm naive...but, the CIA can't release anything about Bitcoin? Surely there's plenty that is no secret to anybody...like notes from Gavin's presentation.

Executive Order 13526
NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Sec. 3.6. (a)  An agency may refuse to confirm or deny the existence or nonexistence of requested records whenever the fact of their existence or nonexistence is itself classified under this order or its predecessors.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,
December 29, 2009
donator
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1047
I outlived my lifetime membership:)
June 07, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
#20
Maybe I'm naive...but, the CIA can't release anything about Bitcoin? Surely there's plenty that is no secret to anybody...like notes from Gavin's presentation.
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1008
CEO of IOHK
June 07, 2013, 10:18:30 PM
#19
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This is exactly why I moved away from DC, I saw what my career path was there

Hopefully, I'll be able to start committing my time fully to Bitcoin related projects and I can retire from the crypto contract biz. There will never be a brighter day.
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