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Quote from: famososMuertos on December 29, 2022, 11:25:21 PM

OP: If you play poker you should know that the correct word is enter tilt mode.

I'm not so sure about that, fellow famososMuertos. Tilt is usually talked about players who win money, who due to a bad streak stop playing rationally and start letting their emotions, mainly anger or rage, take over.

Losing players as the OP seems to think might also have some kind of tilt, but I doubt that all the states he experiences can be attributed to tilt.

On the other hand I think the responsible gambling options are positive, it's not just setting a maximum deposit, there is also for example a self-exclusion for a certain period which can generally be from one day to one year or forever. Sometimes self-excluding yourself for 24 hours makes you see things differently when you come back.

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OP: If you play poker you should know that the correct word is enter tilt mode.

If you are addicted you should not gamble it is that simple, to say that you control the addiction is a fallacy, the true cure for the addict is never to gamble again.

In fact, deposit controls are for this type of situation of entering a Tilt phase, they are not there to control addicts.

You have an error of appreciation between gambling addiction and being Tilt, being tilted can have a solution and it is a "normal" phase in which we fall frequently or not, depending on each person's experience.

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Quote from: Blawpaw on December 29, 2022, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Moneyprism on December 29, 2022, 10:01:33 AM

this responsible gambling feature is very helpful to prevent those who want to deposit money into their account after losing in a row .. this of course will help players to be able to control their money and prevent them from spending too much of their money .. this feature itself has started to be implemented at several online casinos in Australia and is very effective in preventing players from using too much of their money in games

Yeah, I actually find the feature extremmely useful as ot prevents you to get out of control and immediatelly recharhe your account after a real hard bad beat. That is basically when you feel frustrated for losing hard and in the back of your mind you believe that it is perfectly possible to recover all the money lost in a coupple of plays. Well, this is terribly wrong and this feature is perfect to help you avoid going down that road.

yes, it's true that this feature will be very helpful,, but what if the player has two accounts on the casino platform? would that render this feature useless? because in the end players will deposit into their other accounts after they couldn't deposit their money on the previous account .. i think for this feature to be really useful, the casino platform should use a banned IP or KYC system to prevent users from depositing continuously on different accounts

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It all depends on how you look at it; you could be a gambler and still be responsible (as you said). Everything depends on how it done, when It's done and where it's done (eventually, that's applicable to every case in life, but atleast it is to this one on ground). AFAIK, Very many gamblers don't gamble for profits sake; well, if the profit comes, they'll take 'em but they've got a different motive entirely.
Back to your question.... ion gamble, apart from way back 2013 when I normally play games as a cashier.... I don't think I have the urge to just get up and Begin to wager, except maybe I'm flopped by a customer who I printed a game already but didn't get back for it.

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Quote from: izsara on December 29, 2022, 06:15:58 PM

Until now I have never used this because I personally have a principle that if I don't cross my limits then it will be fine.
I always limit spending on gambling every month and when my budget in one month runs out in gambling then I will wait for the next month so as long as I don't limit it I don't think I need to use this feature.

Stick to this and you wont really be finding out yourself into great financial problem considering that gambling could really mess up your finances if you arent really that careful when it comes to your spending.

Gambling should really be for fun and not something that you do deal up just because you do expect something from it or simply making it as a source of income.
If you do have this kind of mindset then you are just basically making things a lot worst. Be responsible and dont make out unnecessary decisions which would cause
up some problems later on.

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Until now I have never used this because I personally have a principle that if I don't cross my limits then it will be fine.
I always limit spending on gambling every month and when my budget in one month runs out in gambling then I will wait for the next month so as long as I don't limit it I don't think I need to use this feature.

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Quote from: Blawpaw on December 28, 2022, 12:43:37 PM

Any of you guys uses the responsible gambling feature? If so, what do you think about it? Is it helpful or does it only gives you a sense of control

Maybe, we all here have gambling sites that can really be trusted and are responsible for us in losing and winning bets, in general the features don't exist for me, but I have what you said.

To be honest, I have thrown away several online gambling sites, now I only have 2 online gambling sites that can be responsible for me in all respects, I have spent a lot of things there, only these gambling sites want to be responsible.

Well, aside from trusting reputable casino sites when gambling, we gamblers should also be responsible enough too to manage our funds not to lose them all from gambling. Because if we just keep on gambling without setting some limits, I guess in a just a year, we will end up ruining our future. So I believe this responsible gambling feature could still very helpful especially for those who fail to control theirselves when gambling, but if we also think we still manage to do the right thing in gambling even if we also make consistent but affordable losses, then we can always have the choice not to install this responsible gambling feature.

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Quote from: uneng on December 29, 2022, 04:20:53 PM

To know how to limit your gambling activity by yourself and to know your own limits is the ideal, but not everyone is at this emotional and mental stage yet, so they need third party tools in order to help them keep their impulses under control.

I have to agree with this.

Others think that a self-exclusion program is not really needed but they didn't really know and understand the feeling of being close to becoming addicted. These persons where level of addiction is now being noticed really need some help in order to at least, try to take the momentum back to themselves.

If others think that self-exclusion is not necessary, be thankful as that proves that you are still in yourself and far from falling into a gambling trap.

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Quote from: Blawpaw on December 28, 2022, 12:43:37 PM

I consider myself a gambling addict. However, unlike gambling addicts, I'm aware of my addiction and I know how to control it. What I love most is playing poker and also sports betting. The latter is the one that screws me the most. Even though, I can get some real good profits,
sometimes I get wild and end up losing all of my money.

To avoid, running after the loss, I have set up the responsible gambling in my account and it helps me a lot to control the bad beats against my will to recharge my account and ending up losing it all again.

For me this has been working for quite some time and it was a way I found to prevent me from throwing money that I need away.

Any of you guys uses the responsible gambling feature? If so, what do you think about it? Is it helpful or does it only gives you a sense of control

This is one of the important things we need to keep doing as a gambler so that we will not end up losing our potential or becoming ignorant of our gambling addiction. This is one of the big problem that keep kicking gamblers on the face and most persons never realize it so they can work on it. We need to keep debugging our behavior so that we can know when to stop gambling and how to help ourselves from going too dip in it. With this that op had been doing to regulate his urge is a good move to eradicate any too much feelings that could lead to loses later.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on December 29, 2022, 03:37:28 PM

In as far as the feature is good, self discipline is the best thing to do because this feature can activated and deactivated at any time one wish. But if self discipline is acquired, you can set your daily limit and operate by it without even using this feature.

To know how to limit your gambling activity by yourself and to know your own limits is the ideal, but not everyone is at this emotional and mental stage yet, so they need third party tools in order to help them keep their impulses under control. And it's very good gambling platforms are getting aware of the importance of responsible gambling feature and introducing it to their websites these days. It's an extra measure gamblers have by their side to fight addiction back, besides the account exclusion option they had since before.

I just think it shouldn't be so easy to activate and deactivate the feature. If someone activated it, it should be possible to deactivate only after a long time period. Maybe some months or a year...

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on December 29, 2022, 03:37:28 PM

In as far as the feature is good, self discipline is the best thing to do because this feature can activated and deactivated at any time one wish. But if self discipline is acquired, you can set your daily limit and operate by it without even using this feature.

Having this will take you on a better place on every field, especially if you have a better discipline handling your finances so I’m focusing on this right now and I’m spending only for what really matters, its like having a budget all the time. Gambling is fun and addicting, if you don’t have self-discipline then it will be hard for you and you might fall into a wrong direction and the worst here is that, you might lose everything. I’m just having a simple budget for gambling, and it works perfectly for me.

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I was just about to say that admission of guilt isn't going to solve the problem but is only a step towards a solution, until I saw thw latter parts, to which I must say it is a good thing. Not that being aware of your problem is any bad because it is actually great that you have been made aware of your issue. Anyhow, you're on a right track yet it's not enough that you just know how to limit yourself with refilling your account, you must know when to stop as well so maybe as a next step to a more responsible gambling behavior, you take up taking imposing game limits on yourself too? Like maybe just set two to three losses for yourself, and if you reach thst you must stop for the day. And also impose same limits for your wins so you don't get too greedy. Creating habits is a great way to solve addiction, I have seen people get rid of their more grave types of addictions by subjecting themselves to strict discipline followed by a calculated life. And ask any psychiatrist around, they'd say the same thing.

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Quote from: milewilda on December 29, 2022, 03:13:38 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on December 29, 2022, 02:41:14 PM

The self-exclusion should be a must in any casino nowadays, most of them have some links on the footer with the Responsible Gambling information, but that is not enough to help someone who really has problems with gambling.

But there are other options like browser plugins to block websites, or block the sites directly from your modem. But if the gambler doesn't want to quit, then these tools will not be enough.

I believe that those are just complimentary feature just to make it look that casinos are really that concern for people who are addicted but back or behind on which they do love these addicted people because it could
bring out more revenue to them.Just not to make them look bad or taking up some advantage and this is why they do offer that self exclusion but actually this wont really be totally effective specially
if a certain person is already that addicted then it could really be that impossible that it would be completely stopped even if its self excluded but rather they would be finding
another place w hich they could play on.

You got some point but you dont know if the platform is really having that concern or truly showing up some sympathy into those people who had been badly affected by gambling addiction.Its true that they would really be that happy if ever there are people who do impulsively spend tons of money which is their main target in the first place.If they are really that having that sympathy
then they would still need to approach a certain gambler if they are still fine or they are making some reminders that they are spending that much but it is really that hard to believe
since this is business.

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In as far as the feature is good, self discipline is the best thing to do because this feature can activated and deactivated at any time one wish. But if self discipline is acquired, you can set your daily limit and operate by it without even using this feature.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on December 29, 2022, 02:41:14 PM

The self-exclusion should be a must in any casino nowadays, most of them have some links on the footer with the Responsible Gambling information, but that is not enough to help someone who really has problems with gambling.

But there are other options like browser plugins to block websites, or block the sites directly from your modem. But if the gambler doesn't want to quit, then these tools will not be enough.

I believe that those are just complimentary feature just to make it look that casinos are really that concern for people who are addicted but back or behind on which they do love these addicted people because it could
bring out more revenue to them.Just not to make them look bad or taking up some advantage and this is why they do offer that self exclusion but actually this wont really be totally effective specially
if a certain person is already that addicted then it could really be that impossible that it would be completely stopped even if its self excluded but rather they would be finding
another place w hich they could play on.

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The self-exclusion should be a must in any casino nowadays, most of them have some links on the footer with the Responsible Gambling information, but that is not enough to help someone who really has problems with gambling.

But there are other options like browser plugins to block websites, or block the sites directly from your modem. But if the gambler doesn't want to quit, then these tools will not be enough.

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Good you bring this into awareness basically for those that do need it, Though I haven't used this feature before, seem it will make sense if other gambling platforms should include it in their platform.

At some point many gamblers become so addicted to gambling that they can help theirselves out and features like this will be of great value for them to use in trying to reducing the amount of money they risk while betting.

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Quote from: Blawpaw on December 28, 2022, 12:43:37 PM

Any of you guys uses the responsible gambling feature? If so, what do you think about it? Is it helpful or does it only gives you a sense of control

Good to know you are keeping a check on your gambling addiction. I haven't noticed the responsible gambling feature on any site. And even if I do, I do not think there will ever be a cause to use it because I try to keep a gambling budget monthly. Another manual responsible gambling feature which I sort of keep to is to my my gambling activity in check by a close pal. They are there to hold me accountable and remind me when I am about to go above my limit.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 29, 2022, 12:43:12 PM

I am not aware of this service. What bookies or website offer this kind of service? I do not need this kind of service yet because I am still very much in control of my gambling habits. But, just in case I ever need one, I would like to know where to avail.

Stake.com has that feature. https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusion

I remember there was a user here before that complained about it since he's still receiving email-related service or anything related to gambling that's not helping him to stay away from gambling.

I understand that technical problems should be solved by the site itself but is it really the thing to blame why the user is having a hard time staying away from gambling? For sure even just browsing social media, gambling-related ads are anywhere.

While there are platforms that help us to control our gambling activity, we should also do adjustments and help ourselves.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on December 28, 2022, 04:18:16 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on December 28, 2022, 03:00:32 PM

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We talking about "Responsible Gambling"

Self-exclusive is also one of them, did you things by only a word & mind you're not getting temptation to no playing on the site too? tell me by percentage and how successful is was. Even if you are reading "Responsible Gambling", you can still come back again.

We have 2 things we can do:
1. From mindset & control emotion.
2. If some people cannot do the first one, they are going to do try limited or blocked accessible to the casino site.

Self-exclusion has a set time before you can come back to the casino. Even if you try to login, if that time period is still on you will not have access to your account unless you request to remove it through their support. What OP is saying is that their account has limited access on certain features like deposits after a certain amount has been lost to the casino. Those are two completely different things, unless of course OP just mean "responsible gambling" as an umbrella term (which I think isn't the case as this post progresses).

I can resist the temptation of not going back to the casino for a long time, and actually it's my 3rd week of not playing dice after years of continuous streak losing $20/week. I do not need this feature, nor do I feel there will be a need for me to have it. It's nice to have on a target audience that has problems controlling themselves when they already started gambling.

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