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Topic: Restoring A-Ads reputation (was "A highly misleading topic at bitcointalk") (Read 1605 times)

newbie
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So, no volunteers to get $100 worth of bitcoins?  Wink

OK, let's raise the stakes. It's gonna be $150.

I don't really care how it's gonna be done as long as it's a more or less permanent solution.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
However, if a topic on the forum criticizing A-Ads (just like a topic criticizing myself or Lutpin, of which both exist) is removed it shows that the moderators are not impartial in that way. That is a very bad thing, as it then allows for this very same bias to appear elsewhere on the forum. This is why the topic shouldn't be removed (as I said previously), not because I enjoy the defamation of a legitimate service.

Most people won't read past the first message of the topic which means they will get an impression that we're indeed "bad" people. As I said earlier I'd be totally glad if the said topic got edited and, instead of saying what it's now saying, it would ask the same question, like "Is A-ads s..m?" That would be more than enough but I cannot get even that from the owners of this forum.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
Featuring false topics which slander someone's reputation is certainly not against any rules in the universe, right. And defamation suits are a figment of my imagination, right.
I, nor the moderators, couldn't care less about the rules anywhere but this forum. 'Slander' isn't a punishable offence here in accordance to the rules.

Also, let's imagine you've been dox'ed and someone created a website with a very good Google standing where he or she says very bad things (none of which are true) about you. Would you be glad if this website existed?
Doxxing is incomparable to someone saying "You're a scammer". The former should be, and in most cases is, removed from the forum.

I really really don't understand what you're all on. It surely looks like you take pride in the s**t that's going on here.
Look, I've used A-Ads a lot as both an advertiser and a publisher, trusting the site (either through deposits or withdrawals) with $1000+. I know that it isn't a scam, and I wouldn't imply that it is.

However, if a topic on the forum criticizing A-Ads (just like a topic criticizing myself or Lutpin, of which both exist) is removed it shows that the moderators are not impartial in that way. That is a very bad thing, as it then allows for this very same bias to appear elsewhere on the forum. This is why the topic shouldn't be removed (as I said previously), not because I enjoy the defamation of a legitimate service.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
If anyone here is eager to permanently solve this issue by any means possible, we are ready to pay this person up to USD $100 in Bitcoins.
So, you're looking to bribe the moderators?

Nope, I was thinking about making a donation to this forum. Also "bribing" means something illegal or bad, while our intent is to remove a false topic from Google's search results.

It would be against the way that the forum is run to do as you are asking, and therefore I sincerely hope it will not be done. It doesn't matter how much you try to reward the moderators for doing so.

Featuring false topics which slander someone's reputation is certainly not against any rules in the universe, right. And defamation suits are a figment of my imagination, right.

Also, let's imagine you've been dox'ed and someone created a website with a very good Google standing where he or she says very bad things (none of which are true) about you. Would you be glad if this website existed?

I really really don't understand what you're all on. It surely looks like you take pride in the s**t that's going on here.
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
If anyone here is eager to permanently solve this issue by any means possible, we are ready to pay this person up to USD $100 in Bitcoins.
So, you're looking to bribe the moderators?
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
I guess the moderators/owners of this forum are too rich to care.
It would be against the way that the forum is run to do as you are asking, and therefore I sincerely hope it will not be done. It doesn't matter how much you try to reward the moderators for doing so.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
Google still features the bad topic as the second result for the "a-ads" search query.

If anyone here is eager to permanently solve this issue by any means possible, we are ready to pay this person up to USD $100 in Bitcoins.

I guess the moderators/owners of this forum are too rich to care.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
Google sometimes just sucks.

They hid the topic for three days and now it's back to number one (among other more active bitcointalk topics).
newbie
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The situation has improved. Hopefully Google will further lower the standing of the "bad" topic.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
The PageRank algorithm that Google uses seemed to be weird, and sometimes websites that contains virus and other malware appear at the top results (which Google should be trying to at least remove on their results). It really is not bitcointalk's fault if the certain topic is in there, and there's no way a post can be deleted here as long as it doesn't break any rules, even though the subject is misleading. How about contact Google on this matter and see what their say is?

Google doesn't have this option unfortunately.
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1352
The PageRank algorithm that Google uses seemed to be weird, and sometimes websites that contains virus and other malware appear at the top results (which Google should be trying to at least remove on their results). It really is not bitcointalk's fault if the certain topic is in there, and there's no way a post can be deleted here as long as it doesn't break any rules, even though the subject is misleading. How about contact Google on this matter and see what their say is?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1005
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I did a Google search. Looks okay now.




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Activity: 252
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It's interesting that Google determines that post should come up first on search results.  Previous posters are correct though, BCT will never remove the post themselves, the only possible thing you could do is create a lot more positive content around the forums here.  I don't know if you have marketing guys, but if you do, I'm sure they can think of some ideas.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
Could anything confirm that McAffee no longer considers a-ads.com website "bad"?

A-ads have their official topic. It's older (made in 2013) and have much more replies (54 pages). So, it's strange that official topic shown in much lover position than this accusation.

Yeah, their ranking system nowadays is really hard to understand.
legendary
Activity: 3262
Merit: 1376
Slava Ukraini!
Do you think it really has that big of an impact to possible customers? I mean, once you click it it's pretty obvious that your service isn't a scam.
Couldn't you just start another topic for your service (if you don't have an official one already), once that one has more replies, it might show up on top in the future?
A-ads have their official topic. It's older (made in 2013) and have much more replies (54 pages). So, it's strange that official topic shown in much lover position than this accusation.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1283
Do you think it really has that big of an impact to possible customers? I mean, once you click it it's pretty obvious that your service isn't a scam.
Couldn't you just start another topic for your service (if you don't have an official one already), once that one has more replies, it might show up on top in the future?
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
I have no idea what your company is all about nor have I ever used your services but it seems that you have some issues.
McAfee security regards your website as "high risk - dangerous".

When I googled "a-ads" as you said, this is what came up.

Here is the site report that the popup gave me.

https://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelligence/site/default.aspx?url=https%3A//a-ads.com/&ref=safesearch

I just wanted to note you to that one as well as of course it would discourage anyone who is trying to deal with you.

Good Luck

We'll contact McAfee to resolve this issue.

Meanwhile VirusTotal indicates we're 100% clean.
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 537
I have no idea what your company is all about nor have I ever used your services but it seems that you have some issues.
McAfee security regards your website as "high risk - dangerous".

When I googled "a-ads" as you said, this is what came up.



Here is the site report that the popup gave me.

https://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelligence/site/default.aspx?url=https%3A//a-ads.com/&ref=safesearch

I just wanted to note you to that one as well as of course it would discourage anyone who is trying to deal with you.

Good Luck
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1268
In Memory of Zepher
It does, it should, and you seem to have a distorted understanding of what it means for free speech to be protected.
Perhaps talking about free speech was inappropriate in this scenario.

Would you say this is better?
"The forum doesn't, and shouldn't, silence criticism of any member, service or business posted here - even if it is blatantly incorrect".
staff
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Merit: 6793
Just writing some code
Lovely. Still I'm perplexed as to why this topic cannot be hidden/deleted as I'm perfectly sure SMF can do that.
The forum does not moderate scams or scam accusations. Topics will not be deleted or moved to the trashcan for being misleading, being a scam, or anything else. The only reasons for a thread's removal is for violating any forum rules which do not have anything pertaining to scams or scam accusations. They only pertain to posting behavior (i.e. spamming, off topicness, duplicate threads, etc.), and those are the only things which will be moderated.
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