Topic: restoring the ottoman/istanbul/byzantum empire the smart way (for turks) - page 2. (Read 224 times)

So you want them to go back in time, and make it an autonomous city state ruled by a christian monarchy no less.

This isn't going to happen, and the Ottoman Empire wasn't a mere city state, or christian, but Islamic caliphate.

Besides why would you want to change their religion? Who are YOU to pick THEIR religion? Are you from the mistaken view that Islam cannot be peaceful, when that is the very meaning of the word? Christianity also has its long history of violence, so the religion is not the problem people are.

Should i remind you how the Ottoman Empire was stopped from invading Europe? Should i mention how the "christian" Vlad the Impaler got its nickname from?

This is the guy that single handedly stopped a many times larger Ottoman army in their tracks by breaking people minds with the "spectacle" they saw...

While the fictional vampire tales made later that came to our days are all utter garbage, the REAL Vlad was actually far crueler, medieval style. The Pope had a serious trouble with him as he was both a devil to ex-commune and the savior of (Christian) Europe from the Ottoman (Islamic) empire.

Sure there are also the crusades, the witch burning, inquisitions, etc. This is THE AGE when Islam was seen as the civilized, cultured and even scientifically advanced world, precisely by the likes of the Ottoman, vs the DARK savage Europe.

Again, its the people. Funny thing you need to be told that...

turks are sad about the fall of the ottoman empire, similar but restoring it with a nationalist/islamist way will not work, and turkey will lose its good relationships with europe if erdogan continues to use migrants as negotiation chips.

but there is still a much smarter way, turks can make their istanbul a world respected city, they have to do it the smart way, here my suggestion how:

1. make istanbul a neutral city abandoning turkish nationalism

2. make istanbul a religiously neutral city, stopping the 99% muslim dominance (istanbul had majority christian population during ottoman age.

3.make istanbul a neutral bicontinental city. meaning it has to controll its borders to both sides europe and the middle east.

4. istanbul has also to get a a neutral names, constantinople, and byzantum are also allowed official names of the city.

5. istanbul becomes a merchant and soft power respected in europe and in the middle east, it needs to have a strict corruption free burocracy as istanbul would have privileged relations with europe istanbul would be allowed to appoint visas for trusted merchants, companies and tourists to europe and maybe also into the middle east. (if the middle east ever decides to become a peaceful and prosperous region.

6. istanbul as a newly created city state would be vastly influential and powerful, it also would need a monarch controlling the financial system like during ottoman age.

there are more steps to this in reality but it also is comming automatically istanbul is distinguishing itself from anatolian turkish cities. trying to be more neutral and less middle eastern

regards