Restoring Trezor on Electrum with correct seed phrase fails? - page 2.

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Quote from: Husna QA on August 27, 2024, 10:19:16 AM

-snip- and vice versa; the BIP39 seed phrase generated from the Electrum wallet can be restored to Trezor T.

Electrum doesn't generate BIP39 seed phrase, it's just using the same word list by default, although it will work with any word list.
Electrum seed may look the same but if tested to BIP39 wallets, it wont pass the checksum test since it doesn't have a checksum but a reserved number.

Old Electrum seed isn't BIP39 standard compliant either.

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Quote from: dkbit98 on August 27, 2024, 09:29:05 AM

Quote from: Husna QA on August 26, 2024, 12:20:24 AM

You cannot restore seed phrases on Trezor using Electrum. You can only restore the seed phrase on Trezor via Trezor Suite.

This is not true.
You can restore seed phrase on any wallet that supports BIP39, including Electrum, but it's not recommended to restore seed phrase from cold to hot wallets.
Only problem in this case can be different derivation paths for some wallets that are not standard, or maybe accounts had additional passphrases.

Yes, I know that the Seed phrase generated by Trezor can be used in Electrum (by selecting the BIP39 option when importing it) ~~and vice versa; the BIP39 seed phrase generated from the Electrum wallet can be restored to Trezor T~~.

Quote from: Husna QA on October 16, 2023, 01:51:02 AM

Quote from: https://blog.trezor.io/learn-about-trezor-recovery-seed-offline-backup-fe235873c69f

The recovery seed is a crucial element for the security of your Trezor hardware wallet. If your device is lost, damaged or stolen, you can use your recovery seed to restore access to your entire wallet, passwords and other data associated with it. The process is simple; you only have to enter the words of your seed into your new Trezor device. (You may also use any other wallets or applications that use the same standard as the Trezor.)

It seems I misunderstood the context of the OP's question.

However, what I mean above is you cannot set up Trezor from scratch using Electrum, but you have to use Trezor Suite to use it with a new seed phrase or restore an existing seed phrase.

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Quote from: Husna QA on August 26, 2024, 12:20:24 AM

You cannot restore seed phrases on Trezor using Electrum. You can only restore the seed phrase on Trezor via Trezor Suite.

This is not true.
You can restore seed phrase on any wallet that supports BIP39, including Electrum, but it's not recommended to restore seed phrase from cold to hot wallets.
Only problem in this case can be different derivation paths for some wallets that are not standard, or maybe accounts had additional passphrases.

Quote from: eiger3970 on August 25, 2024, 11:28:49 PM

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Do you still own Trezor device and did you try restoring seed phrase back on Trezor?
Trezor also have test option for this in Trezor Suite.

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First of all, it's not recommended to restore a hardware wallet's seed phrase to an online client because it defeats the purpose of using a hardware wallet where the keys are supposed to be kept offline.
You had your reason, probably.

Anyways;

Quote from: eiger3970 on August 25, 2024, 11:28:49 PM

-snip- Seed type: BIP39 seed -> OK -> type in seed, but 5th word of 4 letters offers 2 words, 7th word of 4 letters offers 3 words, 18th word of 4 letters offers 2 words, whereas Trezor would just select the single word from 4 letters?

Electrum just shows you the possible valid word that can be completed with those first four letters, it's not something that can cause incompatibility.

Quote from: eiger3970 on August 25, 2024, 11:28:49 PM

-snip- Detect Existing Accounts -> BIP39 Recovery: No existing accounts found.

Since you already done that, I assume that you've actually typed your Trezor backup phrase to an online machine.
If you ever successfully restored your wallet, immediately send all of its funds to a new seed (wallet) created by your Trezor.

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Quote from: eiger3970 on August 25, 2024, 11:28:49 PM

Electrum-4.5.5-x86_64.AppImage -> Electrum wallet: Create New Wallet -> Wallet: wallet_1 -> Next -> Create new wallet: What kind of wallet do you want to create? Standard wallet -> Next -> Keystore: Do you want to create a new seed, or to restore a wallet using an existing seed? I already have a seed -> Next -> Enter Seed -> Please enter your seed phrase in order to restore your wallet. -> Options -> Seed type: BIP39 seed -> OK -> type in seed, but 5th word of 4 letters offers 2 words, 7th word of 4 letters offers 3 words, 18th word of 4 letters offers 2 words, whereas Trezor would just select the single word from 4 letters? -> Next -> Script type and Derivation path -> Detect Existing Accounts -> BIP39 Recovery: No existing accounts found. -> Cancel -> Choose the type of addresses in your wallet. Native segwit (p2wpkh) -> You can override the suggested derivation path. If you are not sure what this is, leave this field unchanged. m/84h/0h/0h -> Next -> Wallet Password: Choose a password to encrypt your wallet keys. Leave this field empty if you want to disable encryption. -> Password: blank -> Confirm Password: blank -> Finish -> Balance: 0. mBTC.

You cannot restore seed phrases on Trezor using Electrum. You can only restore the seed phrase on Trezor via Trezor Suite.
Go to Settings Menu - Device - Danger Area - Factory reset

If previously you experienced failure during the restore process and entered the boot loader mode as I experienced below:

Quote from: Husna QA on November 24, 2022, 07:00:20 AM

Click Trezor Account in Trezor Suite, then follow the instructions for the setup process.

Quote from: Husna QA on November 24, 2022, 07:00:20 AM

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Electrum-4.5.5-x86_64.AppImage -> Electrum wallet: Create New Wallet -> Wallet: wallet_1 -> Next -> Create new wallet: What kind of wallet do you want to create? Standard wallet -> Next -> Keystore: Do you want to create a new seed, or to restore a wallet using an existing seed? I already have a seed -> Next -> Enter Seed -> Please enter your seed phrase in order to restore your wallet. -> Options -> Seed type: BIP39 seed -> OK -> type in seed, but 5th word of 4 letters offers 2 words, 7th word of 4 letters offers 3 words, 18th word of 4 letters offers 2 words, whereas Trezor would just select the single word from 4 letters? -> Next -> Script type and Derivation path -> Detect Existing Accounts -> BIP39 Recovery: No existing accounts found. -> Cancel -> Choose the type of addresses in your wallet. Native segwit (p2wpkh) -> You can override the suggested derivation path. If you are not sure what this is, leave this field unchanged. m/84h/0h/0h -> Next -> Wallet Password: Choose a password to encrypt your wallet keys. Leave this field empty if you want to disable encryption. -> Password: blank -> Confirm Password: blank -> Finish -> Balance: 0. mBTC.

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