IMHO biometrics should only replace usernames, but newer passwords. As pointed out earlier your biometrics exists in many places already. And Apples fingerprint reader was hacked shortly after it's release.
Most Bitcoin users today are security enthusiasts and would never wish for something like this.
Topic: Retina Scan Or Thumb Print Authorisation (Read 2434 times)
You can always lose your password, most people don't lose their thumb or eyes.
Actually some people do lose their thumb or eyes. One can just write the password on the outside of the phone in order to not lose it. This is the essence of the CCC hack over a year ago. http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid. Yes Apple is that reckless when it comes to the security of their customer's information.
Um... Ok. Then show me statistics of how many people in the world lose both their eyes and thumbs, I'm assuming not much? If it's not much, I think you're proving a good point for this type of security. Someone had to recreate someone's thumb! That's a hell of a lot harder to do than stealing someone's credit card or being apart of other illegal schemes.
Apple for example has a limit of recording 5 of your fingerprints
Bitcoin is not anonymous, the FBI knows who you are when you send and receive a bitcoin. I believe that the main benefit of this technology is multilayer-ed security.
I hope most of you have eyes and thumbs 
You can always lose your password, most people don't lose their thumb or eyes.
Actually some people do lose their thumb or eyes. One can just write the password on the outside of the phone in order to not lose it. This is the essence of the CCC hack over a year ago. http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid. Yes Apple is that reckless when it comes to the security of their customer's information.
Um... Ok. Then show me statistics of how many people in the world lose both their eyes and thumbs, I'm assuming not much? If it's not much, I think you're proving a good point for this type of security. Someone had to recreate someone's thumb! That's a hell of a lot harder to do than stealing someone's credit card or being apart of other illegal schemes.
Amputations account for 1% of workplace injuries in BC, Canada http://worksafebc.com/publications/reports/statistics_reports/assets/pdf/stats2012.pdf p 118. So it is very significant. The point is that the fingerprints are lifted from the outside of the phone. So if the attacker has possession of the phone she can overcome the Apple security theatre. The amount at stake here can be many orders of magnitude more that a stolen credit card where there is consumer has limited liability typically under 50 USD.
Seriously this kind of security theatre is very dangerous because it give people a false sense of security.
Those who wish to become isheep and play in Apple's gilded jail are of course free to do so. I will stick to proven Free Libre Open Source Software security technology that actually works, rather than corporate security theatre.
You can always lose your password, most people don't lose their thumb or eyes.
Actually some people do lose their thumb or eyes. One can just write the password on the outside of the phone in order to not lose it. This is the essence of the CCC hack over a year ago. http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid. Yes Apple is that reckless when it comes to the security of their customer's information.
Um... Ok. Then show me statistics of how many people in the world lose both their eyes and thumbs, I'm assuming not much? If it's not much, I think you're proving a good point for this type of security. Someone had to recreate someone's thumb! That's a hell of a lot harder to do than stealing someone's credit card or being apart of other illegal schemes.
You can always lose your password, most people don't lose their thumb or eyes.
Actually some people do lose their thumb or eyes. One can just write the password on the outside of the phone in order to not lose it. This is the essence of the CCC hack over a year ago. http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid. Yes Apple is that reckless when it comes to the security of their customer's information.
You can always lose your password, most people don't lose their thumb or eyes.
I've read about this further and I've found out that chain.com has a fingerprint based bitcoin wallet but I have not found out if someone has made a successful hack against this type of security and the way this company implements it.
I regard biometrics as the equivalent of using a long complicated password, that's only advantage is it can't easily be shoulder surfed or forgotten. When the machine has read it, it's just some string of data, strings of data can be sniffed and injected on compromised machines, compromised networks, compromised ID servers etc. Then when it has been compromised, you can't change it.
Also if fingerprints are only likely to be unique to one in 64 million individuals, that means it's only about 25 bit security, if only about 64 million variations are likely and can be algorithmically defined. I think that takes a middling GPU less than an hour.
Also if fingerprints are only likely to be unique to one in 64 million individuals, that means it's only about 25 bit security, if only about 64 million variations are likely and can be algorithmically defined. I think that takes a middling GPU less than an hour.
Fingerprint scanners to secure a phone have to be one of the dumbest ideas yet. Why because the fingerprints of the user are already on the outside of the phone! Apple's IOS fingerprint "security" has already been hacked repeatedly. http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iphone-6-touch-id-fingerprint-scanner-hacked-days-after-launch-1466843.
These kind of biometrics can work where the actual scanning is supervised, for example when crossing a border, entering a secure area etc. When the scanning is not supervised they are next to useless.
As for Apple, I would stay well away from that company when dealing with XBT or other crypto currencies. I still remember purchasing XBT in 2012 and late 2011 between 2 and 6 USD per XBT. The loyal isheep had to wait for approval from their masters at Apple in 2014 and pay between 275 and 600 USD per XBT. When the loyal isheep have to pay 100x for an asset, any asset, over the price those of us, who recognize the evil of the DRM infected Apple ecosystem pay, it is hardly surprising why Apple keeps accumulating USD while the isheep get deeper and deeper into debt.
These kind of biometrics can work where the actual scanning is supervised, for example when crossing a border, entering a secure area etc. When the scanning is not supervised they are next to useless.
As for Apple, I would stay well away from that company when dealing with XBT or other crypto currencies. I still remember purchasing XBT in 2012 and late 2011 between 2 and 6 USD per XBT. The loyal isheep had to wait for approval from their masters at Apple in 2014 and pay between 275 and 600 USD per XBT. When the loyal isheep have to pay 100x for an asset, any asset, over the price those of us, who recognize the evil of the DRM infected Apple ecosystem pay, it is hardly surprising why Apple keeps accumulating USD while the isheep get deeper and deeper into debt.
How would the Bitcoin community like retina scan or thumb print authorization? (Most new cell phones already have these features built-in) I believe that all the maintainers of Bitcoin wallets should consider adding these features. If you think this is a good idea, add your support below and also add the reason why you would like these features added.
BTC
BTC
no, never
Thumb print is better than retina. I don't even like to scan my finger... I won't imagine scanning my retina.
How would the Bitcoin community like retina scan or thumb print authorization? (Most new cell phones already have these features built-in) I believe that all the maintainers of Bitcoin wallets should consider adding these features. If you think this is a good idea, add your support below and also add the reason why you would like these features added.
BTC
BTC
I haven't seen people using retina scan a lot. I think a thumb print authorization would be preferred.
How would the Bitcoin community like retina scan or thumb print authorization? (Most new cell phones already have these features built-in) I believe that all the maintainers of Bitcoin wallets should consider adding these features. If you think this is a good idea, add your support below and also add the reason why you would like these features added.
BTC
BTC
I think that blockchain.info may use apple's touch ID for it's APP.
That would be great honestly since I own an iphone (and a samsung). Any is good
How would the Bitcoin community like retina scan or thumb print authorization? (Most new cell phones already have these features built-in) I believe that all the maintainers of Bitcoin wallets should consider adding these features. If you think this is a good idea, add your support below and also add the reason why you would like these features added.
BTC
BTC
Certainly. Please give me your thumbprints and retinal scans right now. I will ensure that they will be sold to corporation-states at a high premium as a service to you.
I certainly wouldn't like some third party company having access to my thumbprints or retina scans, but I wouldn't mind using fingerprints to access my own PC wallet. Think that would give me an extra piece of mind.
How would the Bitcoin community like retina scan or thumb print authorization? (Most new cell phones already have these features built-in) I believe that all the maintainers of Bitcoin wallets should consider adding these features. If you think this is a good idea, add your support below and also add the reason why you would like these features added.
BTC
BTC
Using thumb print authorization or retina scan authorization is the same as making passwords unchangeable.
Think about it. You would carry your password with you in plain text and you would only be able to change it as often as the amount of fingers you have (or eyes).
This is a step backwards in security. Actual passwords are not visible in plain text and can be changed and re-invented as often as you want.
How would the Bitcoin community like retina scan or thumb print authorization?
Ban ... infinity !
Jump to: