Revocation of the citizenship and exile as a punishment - page 2.

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 26, 2016, 01:54:45 AM

What makes you think they will not be back on the streets of your town in a matter of months?

I think people in these poor countries will be very happy to see these criminals on streets for having electricity and fresh water in their homes.

Quote from: af_newbie on February 26, 2016, 01:54:45 AM

Criminals can buy fake passports and re-enter your country. Do you think they care if you strip them of citizenship? They are criminals they don't give a shit about the paperwork or the laws.

And they be able to change their DNA or retina?!

Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 26, 2016, 02:10:15 AM

Right now, almost anyone can travel to any of the European Union member nations, and reside there.

From what time Sub-Saharan African countries entered the EU?!

Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 26, 2016, 02:10:15 AM

Also, I don't support the idea of letting the convict walk free, after committing heinous crimes. This will encourage other criminally minded people to commit similar offenses.

Most people will prefer to live in Swedish prison instead of walking free in Burundi!

Quote from: Moloch on February 26, 2016, 04:04:06 AM

Where do you plan to exile them to? Australia? UK already tried that...

What country wants a bunch of reject criminals?

I wrote in the OP - poorest countries in the world for some monetary compensation (much less than prison costs).

Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 26, 2016, 04:31:16 AM

This news just came in from the United Kingdom. They are stripping the citizenship of Muslim pedophiles, who abused kids in Rotherham and London. These guys will be deported to Pakistan:

+1. France also plan to do the same!
http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/French-lawmakers-to-vote-on-divisive-citizenship-6820243.php

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This news just came in from the United Kingdom. They are stripping the citizenship of Muslim pedophiles, who abused kids in Rotherham and London. These guys will be deported to Pakistan:

http://news.sky.com/story/1648898/rotherham-abusers-could-lose-uk-citizenship

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3465018/Asian-sex-abusers-stripped-UK-citizenship-deported-new-drive-broaden-anti-terror-powers.html

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Powers created to deport terrorists are being used to remove members of Asian child sex grooming gangs with dual nationalities under a new effort by the Home Office. Home Secretary Theresa May plans to significantly increase the withdrawal of British citizenship for serious criminals with dual nationality, Whitehall sources told The Independent. According to senior Home Office sources, there is likely to be an 'acceleration of passport strike-outs and potential deportations'. The announcement follows the uncovering of a series of Asian sex abuse gangs across the country in recent years. Rochdale child sex grooming gang ringleader Shabir Ahmed is the first such paedophile to be subjected to Mrs May's new approach.

For the first time ever, I agree with chairwoman Theresa Mao!

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Where do you plan to exile them to? Australia? UK already tried that...

What country wants a bunch of reject criminals?

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Quote from: af_newbie on February 26, 2016, 01:54:45 AM

What makes you think they will not be back on the streets of your town in a matter of months? Criminals can buy fake passports and re-enter your country. Do you think they care if you strip them of citizenship? They are criminals they don't give a shit about the paperwork or the laws.

100% correct. As long as the borders are not secure, this idea simply can't be put in to practice. Right now, almost anyone can travel to any of the European Union member nations, and reside there.

Also, I don't support the idea of letting the convict walk free, after committing heinous crimes. This will encourage other criminally minded people to commit similar offenses.

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Quote from: giantdragon on February 26, 2016, 01:49:33 AM

The idea is to strip-off citizenship from the convicted felon instead of putting him in prison. Government of his home country can sign a contract with one of the poorest states in the world (Burundi, Malawi, Liberia etc), so in exchange for some monetary compensation the poor country would grant him a citizenship, then his home country will revoke his nationality and expel convict to the poor state.

Compensation for the poor country will be order of magnitude lower than costs keeping him in prison, but deterring effect much stronger than prison time because most people would choose to spend some time in US or EU prison instead of spending rest of life in Sub-Saharan Africa!

What makes you think they will not be back on the streets of your town in a matter of months? Criminals can buy fake passports and re-enter your country. Do you think they care if you strip them of citizenship? They are criminals they don't give a shit about the paperwork or the laws.

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The idea is to strip-off citizenship from the convicted felon instead of putting him in prison. Government of his home country can sign a contract with one of the poorest states in the world (Burundi, Malawi, Liberia etc), so in exchange for some monetary compensation the poor country would grant him a citizenship, then his home country will revoke his nationality and expel convict to the poor state.

Compensation for the poor country will be order of magnitude lower than costs keeping him in prison, but deterring effect much stronger than prison time because most people would choose to spend some time in US or EU prison instead of spending rest of life in Sub-Saharan Africa!

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