Topic: REVOLUTION of bitcointalk.org V (Read 1469 times)

wow.. how did I miss this nonsense thread?

that's right.. more important things....    but i finally decided to see what it was about.


It was about me clicking the ignore button on Wolwoo.   Imagine that.

Suchmoon is such an obvious scumbag.

Which of those trust ratings are you wishing to dispute? Friend of lauda, malboroza, tman , nutildah.

But when suchmoon proven scammer pals red trust people for telling the truth about them he has no problem with it ?

I would advise the reader of this thread to research thoroughly before believing a word suchmoon chipmixer spammer says.

I think the revolution is one way forward. Anything to crush the status quo would be an improvement for this forum
Better though an organised union that forces transparent objective standards for all members.

What about suchmoons bullshit trust inclusions they are likely more worrying.
Probably some proven scammers in there and if there are not they will have only been removed recently.

Great to see that subtle sneaky scumbag loycev mr chpmixer spammer and foxpup avatar Milker getting a red tag.
Slimeball that's is always backing and supporting scammers whilst screaming troll at those presenting evidence of scamming he dare not tackle.

Good for the revolution. Just dont forget the scammer supporters. They enabled and facilitated these greedy scamming and trust abusing cretins whilst attacking real whistleblowers.

Scum.

non bullshit, it's mutual! "I cut the tree that breaks my branch" Turkish proverb

Cool story. You forgot to mention bullshit trust ratings you're sending around:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1003533;page=sent

See here, the tRu$T j€di of the forum

*He's targeting someone else because he's angry with me (after all I'm already negative)
*Being Turkish is enough to be a target
*Meanwhile, the wall is knitting around me, the wall of fear
** On the dark side of power but it shows different



The area we are discussing
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54414240

But when most of the current DT are undeniably scammer supporters, then any action to force change should be considered no worse or positive.

I think it better that you all join the objective standards guild.

If everyone who recognized that most of DT is corrupt and scammy were united and organised then positive changes could be enacted quickly.

I support nearly any efforts to oust the current crop of DT leaches.

Join the objective standards guild. It will result in scammers and their supporters being kicked out. The last thing they want is a fair and consistent set of rules they have to work with.

Merit is the real cancer but if you reduce the financial leverage of merit via reducing the financial advantages of having subjectivity in the form of red tags then it will help.

First you need a united core. Then you need a set of goals.

Better though to simply have a set of transparent immutable rules then selection of DT is less important.

The DT members all collude with merits and PMs discussing who should be allowed to include who are crying to theymos to raise the 250 limit.  The tears roll if others start to collude haha

Actmyname is not as bad as most of DT.

LOL at trust farming ...they all send each other merits and include each other
Look at all positive trust they send each other and nothing to do with trade in many cases

I think wolwoo deserves more positive trust than all the other DT supporting scammers.

Yes you should get positive trust for having courage to stand up to scammers in DT and trying to boot them out when all the other spineless wretches say nothing at all.

Very simple! Your (and me-others) judgments don't matter. Because unproven judgments without foundation ...
The decisions made according to these judgments are not fair. It is also used purely for personal-group interest. Anyone with an eye can see this.

Perhaps we're all in a matrix. What does this have to do with your trust farming?

I say with the simplest logic
You accuse me of abuse of this system, but one of the users of the system is me
How do you know and trust the people you trust in this virtual environment when you can't even recognize them in real life?
Perhaps the person you trust most is the murderer, thief, pervert. The person you don't trust is perhaps a very good person.

See the problem is that the dismantling members turned out to be wolwoo, Vispilio, et al, and they're deservedly excluded, at least for now. You can't expect them to reflect on that like adults, so scorched earth it is.

Yes, I know you didn't ask for my opinion but when has that ever stopped me...

How did you come to the conclusion that the most reasonable and accessible resolution was not to address the members that you believe are dismantling the trust system, but rather to double down on your oppression olympics and try to reduce the system itself to dust?

Anarchy is totally fine - you can go to forums that don't have usernames for that.

If you ever spent a few minutes reading stuff instead of spewing whatever comes to your mind you might learn awesome things. For example you might find out that the thread you linked to was a misunderstanding at most, which has been resolved and there was no conspiracy.

But where's the fun in that.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-long-has-it-been-a-cause-of-negative-trust-to-support-one-of-the-forum-5247453

the childlike trust system itself
"I trust this"
"I don't trust this"
"Who are you and how much do you know me?" I said this publicly

Unfortunately, the conclusion results in the trite observation: if everyone is trusted, nobody is trusted.

If we're doing this in the scope of the entire sample then I don't see the use of individualizing trust. One important thing to note is that the idea of a grouping of individuals in DT1 is inevitable and can always be construed regardless of the distribution of trust and distrust throughout the system.

Any time there is mutual trust, one could claim (without any astoundingly explicable reason, mind) that there is a conspiracy, a gang, et al. To forgo sensibilities and leap towards asinine "revolutions" in a privately-owned forum with administrators is to have a childlike fit the likes of the Reputation board.

Yes because this system is unfair, everyone adds to the list mutually


i love forum
ı love people
goodbye

Looks like you can't read:


He said the same in the Turkish thread and even there some users didn't quite agree with that. How dumb do you have to be to defend this sort of thing?


Ignoring the fact that you have no clue how percentages work, the problem is your reciprocal offer, as quoted above. You're a DT1 member and you're literally saying that you will include anyone who includes you (the second part about feedback doesn't quite apply as long as your DT1 membership is inactive and I hope it stays that way). So you end up supporting other trust abusers like peloso, and farming up your own inclusions.

Indeed. I don't see any firm and solid arguments and proofs with those arguments. Though he may have a point that trust can be abused by a group or "gang" in here, yet he cannot justify his statements with valid evidences. The revolution attracted many attention, but no one's affirmation.

And the bottom line here is, the trust system is already perfect. It simply shows that if you are worthy of someone's trust, then you must be also trusted by the others. It's just a matter of one's morality if he would cheat in it. And a dumb and immature mindset if one could not accept the fact that there would always be a hierarchy in anything in this world, from government, to a simple household. OP shows mere impertinence, and a person whom couldn't comprehend and accept that one must work hard to reach the top. No wonder why a red-tagged user wanted to have a revolution.

One thing I've learned in my experience, if you wanted to change the system, work hard, climb up top, then change it from within. Not forcing yourself to be heard and be followed.

How did the monkey mr. Kalemdar get kicked out?

you can't scare me with bounty
Also, there is Darkstar in chipmixer, as far as I know, will you make the decision?

Solved. Thanks for the heads up: