Ridiculous to send signed message to recover hacked account. - page 2.

Dorkie

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Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 02:06:43 AM

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 02:03:50 AM

Like I keep saying, please be helpful.

I am. However, given your way of conducting I see no reason to serve you potential solutions on a platter. Therefore, I'm pushing you towards the direction that you need to be going. Instead of writing nonsense, and making complaints, use your head and think: Please look at your own way of conducting, and try to figure out why I treat you the way I did. That will give you some wisdom. Don't always argue you are right, even though you are wrong. I may be wrong in your opinion, but for you to be impolite and insulting is not going to help anyone.

Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 02:00:26 AM

Are you really unable to provide any proof whatsoever that you're the original owner?

This shouldn't take a few minutes of tinkering to figure out if you can answer with or without proof. I'll jump start you: think about the contents of your PMs. I don't send bitcoin addresses in PM.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 02:03:50 AM

I am sure you have more serious things to do elsewhere.
So, begone.

I can't. You've poked my cat. Lips sealed

Then let's do it. Give me your best shot. Scum. As far as I can tell, you are the one inviting an argument.

It is very clear to me that you cannot help me.

No, my PM is so fresh with this account it is almost clean. There is no bitcoin address used in my PM.

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That isn't helping you. You're wasting your time by not thinking about the solution.

Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 02:06:43 AM

Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 02:00:26 AM

Are you really unable to provide any proof whatsoever that you're the original owner?

This shouldn't take a few minutes of tinkering to figure out if you can answer with or without proof. I'll jump start you: think about the contents of your PMs.

Lauda

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Terminated.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 02:03:50 AM

Like I keep saying, please be helpful.

I am. However, given your way of conducting I see no reason to serve you potential solutions on a platter. Therefore, I'm pushing you towards the direction that you need to be going. Instead of writing nonsense, and making complaints, use your head and think:

Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 02:00:26 AM

Are you really unable to provide any proof whatsoever that you're the original owner?

This shouldn't take a few minutes of tinkering to figure out if you can answer with or without proof. I'll jump start you: think about the contents of your PMs.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 02:03:50 AM

I am sure you have more serious things to do elsewhere.
So, begone.

I can't. You've poked my cat. Lips sealed

Dorkie

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Here is how shitty and unhelpful your comments are.

Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 01:28:25 AM

The only thing ridiculous in this thread is your naivety and knowledge. There is a very good reason for which signed messages are being asked for account recovery. Calling me naive is your personal subjective opinion. Not helpful to solving the problem.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

I don't understand why email address can be changed/edited.

Pretty much every service online allows you to do that. Another subjective opinion. Not helpful to solve the problem.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

If it is a security vulnerability, then by right it shouldn't allowed to be edited.

It is not. Stupid idiot. It is a vulnerability.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

This would probably have prevented a majority of all the hacking, but why isn't the admin doing it?

.useMethod.preventHacks(IamLeet) Huh

Sigh, people. Garbage post by a garbage intellect. Not helping to solve the problem.

Like I keep saying, please be helpful.

If you can't, then please stop wasting your time on me.
I am sure you are a smart fella.
I am sure you have more serious things to do elsewhere.
So, begone.

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Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:55:00 AM

You are wrong. Thinking that everyone should post their bitcoin addresses here and be stacked is 100% naive.

No.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:55:00 AM

You fail to understand not everyone will have a bitcoin, and even if he/she does, doesn't mean he/she should post the address here for recovery purpose.

If you don't have a Bitcoin address, go away.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:55:00 AM

You are trying to imply that posting bitcoin address here is the one and only way to solve account hacking, which is why you are naive.

Is not something that I have implied / is something you've made up / you're a liar.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:55:00 AM

What uncomfortable truth are you talking about? I bet I welcome more painful truths than you can.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:55:00 AM

You have no other way to be convinced other than to receive a signed message from a stacked bitcoin address. Pathetic.
....
I believe you are the idiot wasting time with shitcoin.
Sorry, but not me.

The more you post, the more inconsistency I see. Then again, this behavior is often found with people involved in the shitcoin section and their delusions which derive value out of nothing. I do wonder if you actually are who you claim to be.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

You try to show that you are trying to help by posting this garbage

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.useMethod.preventHacks(IamLeet) Huh Sigh, people.

that you expect me to understand.
If you are sincerely good, then stop beating around the bushes.

There's a very good reason for which that was posted -> you've failed. Are you really unable to provide any proof whatsoever that you're the original owner?

Disclaimers:
There were cases of people attempting to hijack accounts by claiming they were hacked (recent, aTriz).
I wouldn't be surprised if there were cases of sold accounts being recovered by claiming they were hacked.

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Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 01:48:04 AM

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

1. You are naive to think everyone should post their bitcoin address here, and be stacked.

That has literally nothing to do with naivety. If you don't value and works towards your own security, then you should feel the consequences of your own actions.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

2. I can give more than 1 online service that does not allow email to be changed/edited, but that serves no purpose trying to prove an idiot wrong.

I've explicitly used the wording 'pretty much' and not 'all', but you seem too fond of your fallacies to come up with an actual counter argument.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

3. Sigh, people exactly like you should not even exist.

Smells like someone doesn't like uncomfortable truths.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

And whether I am smart or wise or otherwise is none of your business.
Because I am here trying to solve my problem.

Let me shorten it into layman terms for you, had you not been an (alleged) idiot and wasted your time with shitcoin, then this would already have been solved (or never happened to begin with). I am not surprised that you couldn't sacrifice 30 seconds of your *valuable* time to secure your account. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

If you cannot help, at least don't be a parasite.

I can, by tagging the account thus rendering it *almost useless*. However, I am absolutely in no way convinced that you are the original owner.

You are wrong. Thinking that everyone should post their bitcoin addresses here and be stacked is 100% naive.
You fail to understand not everyone will have a bitcoin, and even if he/she does, doesn't mean he/she should post the address here for recovery purpose.
You are trying to imply that posting bitcoin address here is the one and only way to solve account hacking, which is why you are naive.

What uncomfortable truth are you talking about? I bet I welcome more painful truths than you can.

You have no other way to be convinced other than to receive a signed message from a stacked bitcoin address. Pathetic.

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Let me shorten it into layman terms for you, had you not been an (alleged) idiot and wasted your time with shitcoin, then this would already have been solved (or never happened to begin with). I am not surprised that you couldn't sacrifice 30 seconds of your *valuable* time to secure your account. Roll Eyes

I believe you are the idiot wasting time with shitcoin.
Sorry, but not me.

You try to show that you are trying to help by posting this garbage

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.useMethod.preventHacks(IamLeet) Huh Sigh, people.

that you expect me to understand.
If you are sincerely good, then stop beating around the bushes.

Lauda

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Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

1. You are naive to think everyone should post their bitcoin address here, and be stacked.

That has literally nothing to do with naivety. If you don't value and works towards your own security, then you should feel the consequences of your own actions.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

2. I can give more than 1 online service that does not allow email to be changed/edited, but that serves no purpose trying to prove an idiot wrong.

I've explicitly used the wording 'pretty much' and not 'all', but you seem too fond of your fallacies to come up with an actual counter argument.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

3. Sigh, people exactly like you should not even exist.

Looks like someone doesn't like uncomfortable truths.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

And whether I am smart or wise or otherwise is none of your business.
Because I am here trying to solve my problem.

Let me shorten it into layman terms for you, had you not been a idiot and (allegedly) wasted your time with shitcoins, then this would already have been solved (or never happened to begin with). I am not surprised that you couldn't sacrifice 30 seconds of your *valuable* time to secure your account. Roll Eyes

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:33:27 AM

If you cannot help, at least don't be a parasite.

I can, by tagging the account thus rendering it *almost useless*. However, I am absolutely in no way convinced that you are the original owner. No address = no help from anyone other than potentially admins. IP matches are more often not proof of anything.

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Quote from: Lauda on October 14, 2017, 01:28:25 AM

The only thing ridiculous in this thread is your naivety and knowledge. There is a very good reason for which signed messages are being asked for account recovery.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

I don't understand why email address can be changed/edited.

Pretty much every service online allows you to do that.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

This would probably have prevented a majority of all the hacking, but why isn't the admin doing it?

.useMethod.preventHacks(IamLeet) Huh

Sigh, people.

If you have nothing to help, please get lost.

1. You are naive to think everyone should post their bitcoin address here, and be stacked.
2. I can give more than 1 online service that does not allow email to be changed/edited, but that serves no purpose trying to prove an idiot wrong.
3. Sigh, people exactly like you should not even exist.

By the way, your comment is not appreciated here.
If you have nothing to offer, please mind your own business.
If you try to prove how smart or how wise you are, you have just failed.

And whether I am smart or wise or otherwise is none of your business.
Because I am here trying to solve my problem.
If you cannot help, at least don't be a parasite.

Lauda

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The only thing ridiculous in this thread is your naivety and knowledge. There is a very good reason for which signed messages are being asked for account recovery.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

I don't understand why email address can be changed/edited.

Pretty much every service online allows you to do that.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

If it is a security vulnerability, then by right it shouldn't allowed to be edited.

It is not.

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:24:37 AM

This would probably have prevented a majority of all the hacking, but why isn't the admin doing it?

.useMethod.preventHacks(IamLeet) Huh

Sigh, people.

Dorkie

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Quote from: hilariousetc on October 14, 2017, 01:20:25 AM

Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:15:12 AM

Does that mean my hacked account can never be recovered?

At the current rate it's unlikely to be recovered. If you check the other threads in Meta even accounts with signed messages aren't getting restored or at best they have to wait weeks/months. Accounts could be restored by doing a bit of investigation on IPs etc but it's not foolproof and the forum currently doesn't have the manpower unfortunately.

If that's the case, then by right my account should have extremely high chance of recovery if the admin care enough to look into the IP addresses used.

I don't understand why email address can be changed/edited.

If it is a security vulnerability, then by right it shouldn't allowed to be edited.

This would probably have prevented a majority of all the hacking, but why isn't the admin doing it?

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Quote from: Dorkie on October 14, 2017, 01:15:12 AM

Does that mean my hacked account can never be recovered?

At the current rate it's unlikely to be recovered. If you check the other threads in Meta even accounts with signed messages aren't getting restored or at best they have to wait weeks/months. Accounts could be restored by doing a bit of investigation on IPs etc but it's not foolproof and the forum currently doesn't have the manpower to do even that unfortunately.

On the new forum at least there will be multiple 2FA options to secure your account but I know that doesn't help you right now.

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Don't you think it is ridiculous that the one and only way to recover a hacked account is to send a signed message with your bitcoin address (thus removing bitcoin's anonymity feature by identifying the owner of that bitcoin address to where he lives and which email address he uses) in order to have any chance of recovering it?

Shouldn't the website's server be able to trace the change in IP addresses used before and after an account is hacked?

I am a recent victim of account hack.

This was my original account here at https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dorky-180234 but now it is taken over by a Turkish hacker.

I never post any bitcoin address here because I never offer to sell anything here.

Does that mean my hacked account can never be recovered?

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