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I have lost my faith in ripple and similar coins. Banks can use Ripple, but I do not see a usage for XRP coin

Which is why you clicked on the topic, navigated to page 3, and took the time to respond. 

Right, right... 

At its core, I see a lot of fear in posts like that but not much else.  Let's be honest ...  you really are fearful that XRP will catch on in a big way and undermine your current investments, correct?
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I have lost my faith in ripple and similar coins. Banks can use Ripple, but I do not see a usage for XRP coin
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Miss-information from a poster whose singular mission is seemingly to confuse readers about XRP and Ripple.  

If readers want to know more about XRP and Ripple, they need to read posts by a much more respected Bitcointalk poster - JoelKatz (a.k.a. David Schwarz)

Here's what he said about XRP's strategy (source https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/4029-explaining-xrp/?do=findComment&comment=39074):

Explaining XRP

The abridged model is this:

1) Ripple gets banks to use its payment technology.

2) Banks integrate Ripple's payment system into their system.

3) This helps to eliminate all the technical obstacles to banks routing payments through a crypto-currency. (Regulatory, compliance, business rules, integration effort, etcetera.)

4) Banks use the system to clear payments with each other, probably using mostly ILP. (ILP is a protocol that permits atomic, cross-ledger payments. Most importantly, it allows a "connector" to facilitate the payment even if that connector is not trusted by either the sender, the recipient, or the source and destination financial institutions.)

5) Ripple tries to make XRP the premium connector by targeting inefficient corridors.

6) If XRP can efficiently bridge X% of payments between banks that use Ripple, it will.

7) This will increase the demand for XRP as connectors need XRP to buy the destination currency for their trades.

Cool If XRP is cheap to trade with other currencies, people who don't know what currency they'll need next may hold XRP.

9) If XRP is cheap to trade with other currencies, people who are willing to buy any currency they can get cheaply may hold XRP.

10) This can lead to a cycle of increasing demand.

Ripple may or may not succeed. Ripple's strategy may change. But that's Ripple's plan, in summary.

Or, even shorter, build a massive, level playing field in which assets can compete to bridge payments, then try to make XRP a winner on that playing field.

This is an ambitious, maybe even crazy, plan. But Ripple has raised tens of millions of dollars, has over a hundred full time employees, and our successes to date speak for themselves. That is, of course, no guarantee of success.

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Whats stopping the "banks" from creating there own ripple like tech?

Nothing, but why would they when they can already use the Ripple solution? Also how do they gain an advantage by using their own system? Unless you're talking about them using their own token instead of XRP.  So yes, they could use their own system and own token to replace both the Ripple solution and XRP... But Ripple has a huge first-mover advantage here, they've been working at this for years, they've moved far beyond proof-of-concept... they're already at advanced stages with the relevant legal authorities and actively building liquidity in the target corridors. By the time any competitor gets off the ground, Ripple and XRP will already be the industry standard.

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Banks dont dance to the music a third party plays . Banks play and you dance not the other way round.

Singapore’s central bank (MAS) and
•   Bank of America Merrill Lynch
•   BCS Information Systems
•  Credit Suisse
•   DBS Bank Ltd
•  The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation Limited
•   J.P. Morgan
•  Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group
•  OCBC Bank
•  R3
•  Singapore Exchange
•  United Overseas Bank

got together and decided to copy past xrp and build the own Distributed Ledger Technology (DLT) Database that is spread across multiple sites, countries or institutions.

Banks where never using xrp in first place, some have a working agreement with Ripple. From a technical standpoint a single xrp works just as well as billions.

Project Ubin SGD on Distributed Ledger.pdf

Notice the heard "Ubin".

Secondary link direct from Singapore Central Bank
http://www.mas.gov.sg/~/media/ProjectUbin/Project Ubin SGD on Distributed Ledger.pdf










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Really great news, i hope that the price will finally go up, because it is still very undervalued at the moment.
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Whats stopping the "banks" from creating there own ripple like tech?

Nothing, but why would they when they can already use the Ripple solution? Also how do they gain an advantage by using their own system? Unless you're talking about them using their own token instead of XRP.  So yes, they could use their own system and own token to replace both the Ripple solution and XRP... But Ripple has a huge first-mover advantage here, they've been working at this for years, they've moved far beyond proof-of-concept... they're already at advanced stages with the relevant legal authorities and actively building liquidity in the target corridors. By the time any competitor gets off the ground, Ripple and XRP will already be the industry standard.
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Lets hope it goes to an ATH!
It seems too early to know that, ripple is a good coin do not get me wrong but until we see dozens of banks using this and being successful at doing so then I think I will reserve my judgment about this coin, it is promising but at the moment that is it.
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Good news indeed for all of us tireless HODL-ers!

I should have left them alone years ago.
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With the banks using the ripple technology is a good thing since its technology provides faster transactions and a better system. Though there is no assurance that the said bank Will also adopt its coin which is the xrp but there is no doubt that the value of the said coin will increase knowing that the development of its technology is improving and a couple of banks are making ripple a part of its system.
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Whats stopping the "banks" from creating there own ripple like tech?
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look at all these ripple pumpters can only fool stupid guys who didnt do homework

bank adapt ripple technology only they will never use xrp its useless

That doesn't make any sense at all. You could argue that banks won't use the Ripple tech, and that's fine. I'd disagree, but fine, it's a legitimate opinion.

But what's your argument for banks using the Ripple ledger but not using XRP ? What else would they use? Their own token? But obviously their own token wouldn't be native to the ledger, so you're still introducing counterparty risk. Plus why would bank B favour a token belonging to bank A ?

To anyone who does the slightest bit of research, the reasons for XRP adoption are crystal clear.
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Yes, banks need XRP  Grin


That's a good news but not enough to make XRP price comes up again.

An alliance with 350,000 Moneygram outlets is not enough to make XRP price move? 

Just in theory, what in your view would be reason to make the price move?   Wink
 
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That's a good news but not enough to make XRP price comes up again. We all know today xrp price wasn't make people replace their money as an investment, too low and has little volume. Need more news to make speculation about xrp, but we only can wait and see. If you're martiangle strategy user, I think this is the best time to buy and wait until the price comes up. Patience, keep calm and good luck.
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look at all these ripple pumpters can only fool stupid guys who didnt do homework

bank adapt ripple technology only they will never use xrp its useless

bank received millions of millons of xrp as gift to use the ripple technolgy--incentive

ripple dev can created more xrp anytime they want and as many as they want


The most efficiënt way to use the ripple technology for our superintegrity Financial institutes is to use the XRP currency right?

- Currently: Transactions per second = 70000 x price $3,-??

- Ripple technology implemented, but Financial institute uses his own made Currency (E.g. since I do not know the numbers, Assume that the bank can increase the transactions per second with 50% to 140000 transactions per second x price $0,10)

- Ripple technology implemented with the use of XRP currency (E.g. same, now Assume that with the XRP currency they will get an increase of 80% to 126000 transactions per second x price $0.013

Would RippleLabs Give Financial Institutes their sourcecode - Algorithm on how to create such a Effiencient Currency for the Banks?

I really know this was somewhere posted (with probably more accurate numbers) it might be on xrpchat and can't find the source anymore.

Concretly: The financial institutes would be most efficient with implementing the XRP Currency as well.

Time will tell.

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this is nonsense. no source. and it only says pilot.

This is the source.  And it's much more than a pilot.

http://www.sbigroup.co.jp/english/investors/disclosure/presentation/pdf/170727presentations.pdf

Page 72-79 says a lot....


okay, how is Ripple likely to grow in value given that there's almost a billion of them and 60% yet to be released?

This has been asked too many times already...go to xrpchat.com and learn.

Here's the link to the JoelKatz post on XRPChat for Ripple's XRP strategy: https://www.xrpchat.com/topic/5280-valuation-models-xrp-the-digital-currency-vs-ripple-the-company/?do=findComment&comment=50182

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Here's how I've been explaining it recently:

1) There's a business that Ripple has providing transaction processing software to banks. It can work without XRP and without any blockchain tech. It improves international payments because it uses end to end messaging to track payment progress, ensure all necessary compliance information is in the transaction in the first place, precisely knows the fees ahead of time, and provides prompt, reliable confirmation of delivery. This is a big enough improvement that banks will use it even if the actual money moves the same way it does now.

2) Ripple has built a public blockchain with a native asset. It has various nice features -- a distributed exchange, good governance, fast transactions, high transaction volume, native multisign, key rotation, payment channels, and so on.

3) The hard part about getting banks to use a blockchain isn't the blockchain, it's everything else. It's governance, compliance, integration with banking systems, and so on. our software does all that stuff, so if routing a payment through XRP is a penny cheaper, the bank can take it. Then we have to make XRP cheaper somewhere that matters.

4) We don't target the biggest corridors like USD->EUR because they're efficient. We target an inefficient, but fairly high volume, corridor. For example, EUR->INR. Market makers have very small profit margins, so even a small incentive to place good EUR<->XRP and XRP<->INR offers can beat what banks are getting now through the correspondent banking system.

5) Once we get one corridor, we hang other countries off each end of the corridor, expanding the reach of XRP.

6) Now, say you're a company like Seagate that pays out money all over the globe. If you have to make payments to five countries in our corridors, you'd rather hold one pile of XRP than five piles of different currencies. That increases demand.

7) Now, say you're a company like Apple with a huge pile of cash. If you want to snap up other assets cheap, you'll need to hold the asset the people selling want. If they're going into any of our corridors, they'll want XRP, so you would want to hold it.

Cool If that succeeds, it should massively increase the price of XRP.

9) Ripple holds a huge pile of XRP and will be the dominant XRP holder for the foreseeable future. But we're primarily VC financed and we get revenue from selling software to banks. We don't use our XRP as a bank account but as a strategic weapon. (Though we do sell some for revenue, we just don't need to for salaries or to keep the lights on.)

10) Anyone who gets XRP from us as part of some deal with a lockup has their incentives aligned with ours. They want the long-term price of XRP to go up too.

I think that pretty much covers our vision. There is, of course, no guarantee of success. This is a pretty crazy thing we're trying to do. But we have 160 full time employees and have raised tens of millions of dollars. We've hired many amazing people, and our track record speaks for itself.
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look at all these ripple pumpters can only fool stupid guys who didnt do homework

bank adapt ripple technology only they will never use xrp its useless

bank received millions of millons of xrp as gift to use the ripple technolgy--incentive

ripple dev can created more xrp anytime they want and as many as they want
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this is nonsense. no source. and it only says pilot.

This is the source.  And it's much more than a pilot.

http://www.sbigroup.co.jp/english/investors/disclosure/presentation/pdf/170727presentations.pdf

Page 72-79 says a lot....


okay, how is Ripple likely to grow in value given that there's almost a billion of them and 60% yet to be released?

This has been asked too many times already...go to xrpchat.com and learn.
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Ripple might be a good currency for the banker but it is not that attractive to investor because one of the most avoided feature of a coin is centralized because that coin can be controlled by the superior people like the president of the country and other high official that can use thier power to create or declare something.
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this is nonsense. no source. and it only says pilot.

This is the source.  And it's much more than a pilot.

http://www.sbigroup.co.jp/english/investors/disclosure/presentation/pdf/170727presentations.pdf

Page 72-79 says a lot....


okay, how is Ripple likely to grow in value given that there's almost a billion of them and 60% yet to be released?
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