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Topic: Ripple Price: Do you think this is a bubble ? (Read 1795 times)

newbie
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"Not yet for public release."  .... and yet, they are publicly giving away coins now to generate interest. 


hero member
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It is still far too early to say whether there is a bubble or not.  Only a tiny amount of XRP has been given out.  Also we must not forget, the Ripple is still in closed Beta.   Not yet for public release.
newbie
Activity: 58
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Ripple is not even opensource.

Beyond the technical differences between their marketing and reality, I still don't fully understand the techniques involved from a business sense, in utilizing their service, and *most importantly* how that is better than what is available today. 

I guess I can kind of see how having a non-fiat coin be an in-between would be beneficial, but still not clear on how its faster or value added than transferring fiat-to-fiat at the local bank. 
hero member
Activity: 770
Merit: 500
Ripple is not even opensource.
newbie
Activity: 58
Merit: 0
I voted yes.   They've pledged to give away the majority of the XRP coins, but so far, only a trickle has found its way onto the market.  This is definitely a bubble in every sense of the word, but the market doesn't care.  Look at the price of the other alt coins and even BTC because of the sudden interest.   Undecided
sr. member
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Merit: 250
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in my opinion the way they have done the giveaways along with getting pretty much working exchanges has forced the price to go up, because they started giving out up to 100k and now they are giving out 1k.

so the perception is that much less is being added to the market. the price rise is driving more buyers to buy and the decreased availability is lowering amount around.

i expect it will stabilize around what it is around right now if they keep giveaways semi constant at their current rate, but if they change them, a sudden price drop is very possible.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500

I blame this incredibly annoying inability to correctly write and speak English on that stupid film "Honey I shrunk the kids".

Any educated individual can tell you it's "I sank" and "I shrank".  It's "I have sunk" and "I have shrunk".

you are fighting against the inevitable.  celebrate the idiocracy.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
how many ripples out there
100 billion

how many had the onecoin give away? not that many

price goes up right now

they are going to own the banks in the future
legendary
Activity: 1455
Merit: 1033
Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
Since Ripple is a centralized anonymous system, it's an obvious target to be seized soon or later under money laundering accusations. It's curious how the liberty reserve case didn't affect XRP's price.
donator
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Merit: 500


I blame this incredibly annoying inability to correctly write and speak English on that stupid film "Honey I shrunk the kids".

Any educated individual can tell you it's "I sank" and "I shrank".  It's "I have sunk" and "I have shrunk".
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
I buy into the line of thinking that Ripple is a scam. 

I personally don't like it, and don't think it will survive long term.

I therefore dump any XRC as soon as I get them. 



+1

If XRP's are currently selling for a non zero ammount then yes its a bubble.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I'm holding it for long term maybe it will be 1USD/XRP

Maybe one day Ripple won't be a broken IOU system.

Then I might invest into XRPs.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Whoa, there are a lot of cats in this wall.
I buy into the line of thinking that Ripple is a scam. 

I personally don't like it, and don't think it will survive long term.

I therefore dump any XRC as soon as I get them. 

legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
I'm holding it for long term maybe it will be 1USD/XRP
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I voted yes.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
incorrect.  bitcoin generation has a cost to generate revenue.  if the costs exceed revenue miners leave the market until costs are inline with revenue.  that is a cots to generate.  

a miner is not going to sell 1 bitcoin that cost him $100 in electricity for $50.  That would be a loss.  

Tell me how much it cost to produce 1 ripple?

it cost 0.012$ to buy a ripple. whatever you buy it or "produce" it. Bitcoin difficulty is as much articifial than bitstamp controlled prices ... what make prices of virtual currencies is faith of people and media noise. Ripple offer a next step for virtual currencies that's it has so much success, anyway it doesn't mean that there is no bubble creating around ripple futur value.

you misinterpreted my question.  what does it cost to produce a ripple.  buy and produce are 2 different things.  most consumer don't know that.  what is the fabrication cost?  I can try to buy a ripple for .001 just as I can try to buy a bitcoin for the same price.  that is differnet from trying to produce a ripple for 001 and trying to produce a bitcoin for .001.  the effort to generate a ripple is an order of magnitude less to produce a ripple than a bit coin.  so a ripple has much less intrinsic value that a bitcoin does.  always will

Cause you are looking at xrp as a "currency". What if we look at it as company shares ?

you mean a derivative then?

FUCK YOU!

lol
legendary
Activity: 1455
Merit: 1033
Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
I guess Ripple is acting like De Beers.
donator
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1080
Gerald Davis
It's impossible to guess the number of XRPs in circulation. Only a few developers know how much they received and how much they already sold on the market. But they promised to give away 50 billions (half of all XRPs) and it seems they decided to ignore that promise. The giving away thread has 5877 answers. Even if all of they were eligible and received on average 40,000 XRPs each, we would reach only about 235 million XRPs. That's nothing. But they kept limiting the number of XRPs for each given away. The recent given away to the subscribers of their mailing list was of 1000 XRPs? It seems clear that the 50 billion XRPs will never been given away, but probably kept in the developers deep pockets. Are they limiting the number to be given away in order to make the price of XRPs increase to get rich faster? Without a correct number about how many XRPs are in circulation, one can only use the 100 billion. In the end, they exist and can be sold by who ever controls Ripple. With this figure, Ripple is worth 2 billion USDs and that is a joke. All altcoins are loosing value (except novacoin), I doubt XRP can resist this (temporary) pessimism. I suspect we will be able to buy XRPs much cheaper than the current price. XRPs were once at 10,000 XRPs per bitcoin and then dropped to more than 130,000 per bitcoin: it might happen again.

In that respect ripple is more like diamonds where the supply on market is a tiny fraction of the amount locked away in vaults.  This is to create artificial scarcity otherwise diamond prices would crash 90% or more.  Bitcoin has properties like Gold, Ripple has properties like Diamonds.  One has been a store of value for centuries the other is an almost guaranteed loss over any extended period of time.
legendary
Activity: 1455
Merit: 1033
Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
It's impossible to guess the number of XRPs in circulation. Only a few developers know how much they received and how much they already sold on the market. But they promised to give away 50 billions (half of all XRPs) and it seems they decided to ignore that promise. The giving away thread has 5877 answers. Even if all of they were eligible and received on average 40,000 XRPs each, we would reach only about 235 million XRPs. That's nothing. But they kept limiting the number of XRPs for each given away. The recent given away to the subscribers of their mailing list was of 1000 XRPs? It seems clear that the 50 billion XRPs will never been given away, but probably kept in the developers deep pockets. Are they limiting the number to be given away in order to make the price of XRPs increase to get rich faster? Without a correct number about how many XRPs are in circulation, one can only use the 100 billion. In the end, they exist and can be sold by who ever controls Ripple. With this figure, Ripple is worth 2 billion USDs and that is a joke. All altcoins are loosing value (except novacoin), I doubt XRP can resist this (temporary) pessimism. I suspect we will be able to buy XRPs much cheaper than the current price. XRPs were once at 10,000 XRPs per bitcoin and then dropped to more than 130,000 per bitcoin: it might happen again.
donator
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
-Bitcoin & Ripple-
incorrect.  bitcoin generation has a cost to generate revenue.  if the costs exceed revenue miners leave the market until costs are inline with revenue.  that is a cots to generate.  

a miner is not going to sell 1 bitcoin that cost him $100 in electricity for $50.  That would be a loss.  

Tell me how much it cost to produce 1 ripple?

it cost 0.012$ to buy a ripple. whatever you buy it or "produce" it. Bitcoin difficulty is as much articifial than bitstamp controlled prices ... what make prices of virtual currencies is faith of people and media noise. Ripple offer a next step for virtual currencies that's it has so much success, anyway it doesn't mean that there is no bubble creating around ripple futur value.

you misinterpreted my question.  what does it cost to produce a ripple.  buy and produce are 2 different things.  most consumer don't know that.  what is the fabrication cost?  I can try to buy a ripple for .001 just as I can try to buy a bitcoin for the same price.  that is differnet from trying to produce a ripple for 001 and trying to produce a bitcoin for .001.  the effort to generate a ripple is an order of magnitude less to produce a ripple than a bit coin.  so a ripple has much less intrinsic value that a bitcoin does.  always will

Cause you are looking at xrp as a "currency". What if we look at it as company shares ?

you mean a derivative then?

FUCK YOU!
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