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Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:06:12 PM

Quote from: BTC Books on May 20, 2013, 07:04:20 PM

The mods need to move the Ripple stuff to Alt Cryptocurrencies.

Nope, because Ripple is a way to move Bitcoins around. Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it. If anything, all of the negative threads that seem to want to focus on this built in currency should be moved. But "Ripple Explained for Bitcoiners!" is 100% relevant to Bitcoin discussion.

Ironically Ripple is the closest thing we have to a distributed exchange for Bitcoin, which is what everyone has been clamoring for after the MtGox DDoS and crash from $266, and now that we're talking about it you want to move the thread?

It's funny because "closest thing we have to a distributed exchange" for Bitcoin?

You can vote Democrats, which will spy on you with warrantless wiretaps and Tripwire, you can vote Republicans, which will spy on you with warrantless wiretaps and Tripwire.

Distributed enough for you?

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 20, 2013, 11:55:19 PM

Ripple had a seat on the 'alternate crypto-currency roundtable at the 2013 conference. I didn't see anyone holding a gun to their heads.

"Ripple" is a system for managing and tracking account balance. It contains "XRP", which is a built in crypto-currency. It's not quite accurate to say that "Ripple is an alt coin" because it is more than that. However, it might be correct to say that "XRP is an alt coin."

But calling Ripple an alt-coin is to ignore all of its other functionality, which in my opinion is a mistake.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:06:12 PM

Quote from: BTC Books on May 20, 2013, 07:04:20 PM

The mods need to move the Ripple stuff to Alt Cryptocurrencies.

Nope, because Ripple is a way to move Bitcoins around. Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it. If anything, all of the negative threads that seem to want to focus on this built in currency should be moved. But "Ripple Explained for Bitcoiners!" is 100% relevant to Bitcoin discussion. ...

Ripple had a seat on the 'alternate crypto-currency roundtable at the 2013 conference. I didn't see anyone holding a gun to their heads.

No matter where it happens to be filed, I would not mind it it were open-sourced one of these days. Relatedly, I wish to know the underlying architecture so I can make my own decisions about robustness, scaling, centralization, and that sort of thing. A 'start with all and subtract' scheme was something which hit me some time ago as a means of mitigating against certain kinds of scaling issues. I'm academically interested in knowing whether Ripple has the same basic goal with this design.

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Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 08:11:11 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 08:05:48 PM

Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 08:03:54 PM

Now we have it. You clearly hate bitcoin and you are only on this forum to promote ripple xrp or whatever else you can make money from or scam people with.

No, actually I am a fan both of Ron Paul and Rand Paul! Why does it have to be either/or?

I definitely don't hate Bitcoin, in fact I bet I am holding significantly more bitcoins than you. Would you like to make a small wager?

I don't think so buddy but I'm not willing to make any wagers with you. If you do have any bitcoins you have probably scammed for them and you are only holding them because you know bitcoin is a good investment. Your ripple/XRP currency you are trying to sell to everyone has nothing on the so called ridged bitcoin.

Ha, you know you would lose. It would be trivial to audit that, too; just have you and misterbigg send transactions to your own alternative wallets. You've backed down from the challenge; why not just back off this thread, coward?

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Quote from: allten on May 20, 2013, 08:13:55 PM

Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 08:06:12 PM

Quote from: CurbsideProphet on May 20, 2013, 08:01:15 PM

Quote from: allten on May 20, 2013, 07:58:49 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:06:12 PM

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Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it....

Interesting Paradox.

BTW, can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?

No, because XRP is needed to facilitate transfers.

and because ripple owners own a majority share (probably all) of the XRP in existence

So, sounds like we wait until they "open" their "open source" code and we make it so it uses Bitcoin instead of ripple.
that's assuming this technology can really accomplish what it claims to in a decentralized fashion.

This is exactly what needs to happen. open source then start it again if it's any good. other than that ripple is rubbish

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although I dont understand how many Ripples I need to make an IOU of any decent amount

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Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 08:06:12 PM

Quote from: CurbsideProphet on May 20, 2013, 08:01:15 PM

Quote from: allten on May 20, 2013, 07:58:49 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:06:12 PM

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Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it....

Interesting Paradox.

BTW, can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?

No, because XRP is needed to facilitate transfers.

and because ripple owners own a majority share (probably all) of the XRP in existence

So, sounds like we wait until they "open" their "open source" code and we make it so it uses Bitcoin instead of ripple.
that's assuming this technology can really accomplish what it claims to in a decentralized fashion.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 08:05:48 PM

Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 08:03:54 PM

Now we have it. You clearly hate bitcoin and you are only on this forum to promote ripple xrp or whatever else you can make money from or scam people with.

No, actually I am a fan both of Ron Paul and Rand Paul! Why does it have to be either/or?

I definitely don't hate Bitcoin, in fact I bet I am holding significantly more bitcoins than you. Would you like to make a small wager?

I don't think so buddy but I'm not willing to make any wagers with you. If you do have any bitcoins you have probably scammed for them and you are only holding them because you know bitcoin is a good investment. Your ripple/XRP currency you are trying to sell to everyone has nothing on the so called ridged bitcoin.

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Quote from: CurbsideProphet on May 20, 2013, 08:01:15 PM

Quote from: allten on May 20, 2013, 07:58:49 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:06:12 PM

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Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it....

Interesting Paradox.

BTW, can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?

No, because XRP is needed to facilitate transfers.

and because ripple owners own a majority share (probably all) of the XRP in existence

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Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 08:03:54 PM

Now we have it. You clearly hate bitcoin and you are only on this forum to promote ripple xrp or whatever else you can make money from or scam people with.

No, actually I am a fan both of Ron Paul and Rand Paul! Why does it have to be either/or?

I definitely don't hate Bitcoin, in fact I bet I am holding significantly more bitcoins than you. Would you like to make a small wager?

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Quote from: CurbsideProphet on May 20, 2013, 08:01:15 PM

Quote from: allten on May 20, 2013, 07:58:49 PM

can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?

No, because XRP is needed to facilitate transfers.

Having a native currency is why Ripple is succeeding where Open Transactions and the original Ripple failed.

Is it possible that the native currency could be randomly distributed using proof of work instead of a premine? I think the answer is yes. But I prefer the current model where developers and other staff can get paid.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:56:34 PM

Quote from: Elwar on May 20, 2013, 07:54:50 PM

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

LOL....

No, its more like Bitcoin is Ron Paul: completely rigid in his ideology and too set in his ways to consider other possibilities.

And Ripple is Rand Paul: younger, more open minded, more energy, able to get more things done because he tries to work within the system instead of trying to challenge it directly.

Now we have it. You clearly hate bitcoin and you are only on this forum to promote ripple xrp or whatever else you can make money from or scam people with.

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Quote from: allten on May 20, 2013, 07:58:49 PM

Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:06:12 PM

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Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it....

Interesting Paradox.

BTW, can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?

No, because XRP is needed to facilitate transfers.

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Quote from: Elwar on May 20, 2013, 07:54:50 PM

Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 06:10:35 PM

I have just been at bitcoin conference in san Jose ca, this was a great thing for bitcoin. One thing I noticed while at the conference is there where heaps of ripple employees/promoters their pretending to be bitcoin users and supporters. They where very sneaky and have also disguised themselves on this forum as bitcoin users by building up lots of posts. Have have seen ripple for what it is now. ripple is a group of people trying to fool people into using their system and their own crypto currency to get rich and hold a monopoly on the market.
ripple is not decentralized.
ripple is polluting bitcoin. they do not like bitcoin and this can be seen easily when speaking to them face to face. don't be fooled by clever marketing.
Ripple should only ever be discussed in alternate crypto section.

I am re posting this hear because it was deleted from the ripple for bitcoin users discussion.

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

This is exactly what I noticed. People involved in ripple seem like they are involved because they are being employed by a big company. Bitcoin users and supporters are involved because they believe in bitcoin and love what it is.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:06:12 PM

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Ripple is not an alternate currency, although there is a currency built into it....

Interesting Paradox.

BTW, can Ripple technology work without the use of the "built in currency"?

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Quote from: Elwar on May 20, 2013, 07:54:50 PM

Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 06:10:35 PM

I have just been at bitcoin conference in san Jose ca, this was a great thing for bitcoin. One thing I noticed while at the conference is there where heaps of ripple employees/promoters their pretending to be bitcoin users and supporters. They where very sneaky and have also disguised themselves on this forum as bitcoin users by building up lots of posts. Have have seen ripple for what it is now. ripple is a group of people trying to fool people into using their system and their own crypto currency to get rich and hold a monopoly on the market.
ripple is not decentralized.
ripple is polluting bitcoin. they do not like bitcoin and this can be seen easily when speaking to them face to face. don't be fooled by clever marketing.
Ripple should only ever be discussed in alternate crypto section.

I am re posting this hear because it was deleted from the ripple for bitcoin users discussion.

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

How many BTC has Tradefortress spent yet btw?

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Quote from: Elwar on May 20, 2013, 07:54:50 PM

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

LOL....

No, its more like Bitcoin is Ron Paul: completely rigid in his ideology and too set in his ways to consider other possibilities.

And Ripple is Rand Paul: younger, more open minded, more energy, able to get more things done because he tries to work within the system instead of trying to challenge it directly.

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Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 06:10:35 PM

I have just been at bitcoin conference in san Jose ca, this was a great thing for bitcoin. One thing I noticed while at the conference is there where heaps of ripple employees/promoters their pretending to be bitcoin users and supporters. They where very sneaky and have also disguised themselves on this forum as bitcoin users by building up lots of posts. Have have seen ripple for what it is now. ripple is a group of people trying to fool people into using their system and their own crypto currency to get rich and hold a monopoly on the market.
ripple is not decentralized.
ripple is polluting bitcoin. they do not like bitcoin and this can be seen easily when speaking to them face to face. don't be fooled by clever marketing.
Ripple should only ever be discussed in alternate crypto section.

I am re posting this hear because it was deleted from the ripple for bitcoin users discussion.

So it is like Ripple is the Romney campaign with paid supporters while Bitcoin is the Ron Paul campaign with unpaid grassroots supporters.

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Quote from: misterbigg on May 20, 2013, 07:42:12 PM

Quote from: yocko06 on May 20, 2013, 07:39:32 PM

You are working like you are all getting paid to do so why?

Speaking only for myself, I recognize the enormous value that Ripple will bring to Bitcoin and the world, and I want to do as much as I can to make the project successful. Ripple is great for consumers and loosens the traditional financial system's monopoly on money transmission.

Bitcoin is great, don't get me wrong, but have you tried to send U.S. dollars or Euros using Bitcoin? It doesn't work very well.

Is very easy actually. You are obviously heavily invested in XRP and Ripple or you are the guy printing them. Ripple will put everything in your hand's Right? So now if I was to use ripple I would lose badly because I am speaking against your attempt at a crypto currency. You can't delete what I write about ripple here hay bro?

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