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July 11, 2017, 02:37:33 PM
#31


TL;DR
If it is so good why does the Bank not buy a few billion XRP's and instead make you rich. Since when banks shy away from massive profits?

Anyway i can see your a clueless newbie but you are off topic here, this is the "Ripples XRP Shenanigans discussion" thread

Always start at the beginning
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Why call it a 'discussion' thread if you dont want anybody to dissagree with you (with some very valid arguments by the way) ? You only want people here agreeing with you ? Thats not a discussion my friend  Wink
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^this

Censorship
newbie
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July 11, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
#30

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TL;DR
If it is so good why does the Bank not buy a few billion XRP's and instead make you rich. Since when banks shy away from massive profits?

Anyway i can see your a clueless newbie but you are off topic here, this is the "Ripples XRP Shenanigans discussion" thread

Always start at the beginning
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Why call it a 'discussion' thread if you dont want anybody to dissagree with you (with some very valid arguments by the way) ? You only want people here agreeing with you ? Thats not a discussion my friend  Wink
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July 11, 2017, 10:07:46 AM
#29
Ripple can't be that bad if the Bank of England is running a POC with their technology.  Wink

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/Documents/fintech/ripplepoc.pdf

In today's world, do you really think an "independent" idea of any sort is allowed to capture such an important social sphere, as currency or monetary utility? Of course one of the main solutions has to be ordained from the "in" crowd. Any other solution will be killed off or tainted.

Best to be aware and profit intelligently where possible.


TL;DR
If it is so good why does the Bank not buy a few billion XRP's and instead make you rich. Since when banks shy away from massive profits?

Anyway i can see your a clueless newbie but you are off topic here, this is the "Ripples XRP Shenanigans discussion" thread

Always start at the beginning
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July 11, 2017, 09:44:10 AM
#28
Ripple can't be that bad if the Bank of England is running a POC with their technology.  Wink

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/Documents/fintech/ripplepoc.pdf

In today's world, do you really think an "independent" idea of any sort is allowed to capture such an important social sphere, as currency or monetary utility? Of course one of the main solutions has to be ordained from the "in" crowd. Any other solution will be killed off or tainted.

Best to be aware and profit intelligently where possible.
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July 11, 2017, 08:21:44 AM
#27
Its really good information i dint know about that XRP is not decentralized revolutionary new blockchain technology . And also you explained well whne databas goes out of disk space . This post change the way of looking ripple.
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July 11, 2017, 07:43:57 AM
#26
@MemberBerries
Do not worry about doggy accounts here (there is enough of them around), no-one can invest in them.

Do worry about doggy companys operating a database and claiming blockchain technology which clearly it is not.


@namini
Do stay on topic otherwise I will be forced to restart a self-moderating thread. A friendly reminder this is the "Ripples XRP Shenanigans discussion" thread.




Always check op
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July 11, 2017, 06:03:51 AM
#24
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Less than 10% is freely available to trade to date

Even back in 2014 more than 10% were available to trade, and I'm not talking about lockup agreements (but we can talk about that too).


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Banks won't touch XRP

Looks like they already did
https://ripple.com/insights/ripple-and-r3-team-up-with-12-banks-to-trial-xrp-for-cross-border-payments/

Also:




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61,71% still held by Ripple Inc. + the looked free give aways

The what?

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First up we discuss facts here, XRP is not decentralized revolutionary new blockchain technology, it is just a ordinary database with signatures.

https://ripple.com/insights/how-we-are-further-decentralizing-the-ripple-consensus-ledger-rcl-to-bolster-robustness-for-enterprise-use/
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ripple-unveils-strategy-become-decentralized-bitcoin/
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July 11, 2017, 05:37:35 AM
#23
First up we discuss facts here, XRP is not decentralized revolutionary new blockchain technology, it is just a ordinary database with signatures.

Almost 80% of all Bitcoins have been mined and available to trade freely. Anyone can mine this revolutionary blockchain tech and get his coins.
Ripple's Database with signatures XRP token is solely released by a centralized company.
Less than 10% is freely available to trade to date. Of the ~38% circulating supply, most of the free gifted tokens to banks and partners are locked.
Or bluntly, the bribery money can't be cashed in for some time.
No Bank will ever touch or buy XRP's, only sell the free gifted once.
The only purpose of XRP is to transfer money out of XRP 'investors' pocked and into Ripple investors pocked.

On a technical side, XRP is presumably the only Token with the genesis block not being 0, genesis ledger is Number 32570. It alone proves it is not decentralized blockchain, instead it is a central database where they stuffed up and lost the beginning.
You can not 'loose' part of a decentralized blockchain.

This is what happens when central database servers running out of disk space
Ledger 0 to 32569 and Genesis at 32570

by contrast proper revolutionary new world changing blockchain technology
Genesis  at 0





Only with a central database can the circulating supply become less, on revolutionary blockchain tech this is not possible (unless you publicly 'burn' a few million token)


What will happen when the other 90% become freely available?

Thanks for the information now it made me to rethink about ripple even i dint know that "Less than 10% is freely available to trade to date" and its owned with centralised database . Even 38%gifted for bank . Good information got bit more insight on cryptocurrency.
sr. member
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July 11, 2017, 03:28:22 AM
#22
Some great points brought up here.
Ripple is crap for soooo many reasons.

Uhh expert alert. Expertalert.  Im feeling honored that people with "legendary" in internet threads are trying to convince people of their 'expertise'
Man its like prestige in call of duty, its nice to look at, but that doesnt mean people will take you seriously. You could easily glitch your way to prestige, so you dont have more credibility than an account that was made a day ago.
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July 11, 2017, 03:22:47 AM
#21
Some great points brought up here.
Ripple is crap for soooo many reasons.
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July 11, 2017, 03:01:25 AM
#20
Bring food to the table CONSPIRACY GUY.


Tell me more about Area51 and your abduction
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July 11, 2017, 02:57:43 AM
#19
People will defend ripple because they have money at stake but your facts are correct. The question then is whether that really matters, is the goal decentralization or is it functionality?

Ripple is supposedly very scale-able so that is a positive but as you say they have many new coins being released which is a big medium to long term negative. The only way they can create value for those coins is if it really gets widely adopted.

The whole banks thing I will also agree with you they are never going to buy ripple even if they are using the blockchain for financial services.

Yeah please when u guys have all the evidence together then bring it to the table lol


please exactly where it is stated that none of the XRP being used

And please bring some proof for many new coins being released.
sr. member
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July 11, 2017, 02:55:43 AM
#18
U are a delusional fuck lol.

Just buy the coins for your selfish interest and stop fucking around.

Nobody is listening to you. They just quickly read trough this and check the conspiracy guy behind your account and go away from this thread. No one will EVER take you seriously.

the whole world is a conspiracy. And thank god we found you  mr savior. You have saved everyone with ur conspiracy informations. Man look for a job at CNN.
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July 11, 2017, 02:54:37 AM
#17
People will defend ripple because they have money at stake but your facts are correct. The question then is whether that really matters, is the goal decentralization or is it functionality?

Ripple is supposedly very scale-able so that is a positive but as you say they have many new coins being released which is a big medium to long term negative. The only way they can create value for those coins is if it really gets widely adopted.

The whole banks thing I will also agree with you they are never going to buy ripple even if they are using the blockchain for financial services.
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July 11, 2017, 02:45:29 AM
#16

Update on proceedings.

21,71% of all Bitcoins still need a buyer and over 90%  (61,71% still held by Ripple Inc. + the looked free give aways) of Ripples XRP's database entries needs someone to buy.
Databases tech exist since the 1960, Blockchain tech since January 3 2009
You would think Ripple investors would chip in and help out XRP investors and not just await payment from them.


Main info at thread opening
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July 10, 2017, 10:10:01 AM
#15
This is what happens when central database servers running out of disk space
Ledger 0 to 32569 and genesis at 32570

by contrast proper revolutionary new, world changing blockchain technology
Genesis  at 0

sr. member
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July 10, 2017, 10:03:53 AM
#14
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most of the free gifted tokens to banks and partners are locked.

I don't think they give XRP for free considering it worth a lot of money for them, also people always complain Ripple can "dump" coins and now people complain there are lockup agreements preventing exactly that.
lol, you are joke. Ripple stated many times strategic partners (Banks, Coinmarketcap, Exchanges, Friends.......) received free tokens. Are you claiming a Bank is not a strategic partner for them.  XRP is only worth something because fools like you look at marketcap.

Secondary this manly about the other facts like that it is not a decentralized blockchain tech because you can not loose part of a chain, only a on database.

Yeah about that, can you provide evidence?
Feel free to show exactly where this is stated!

Where what is stated?
Are you disputing the fact that xrp genesis ledger is Number 32570 and not Number 0 and consequently can not possible be a decentralized blockchain as it would be impossible to loose part of a chain. Loosing part of the data is only possible on a ordinary centralized database.
Are you disputing the fact that at a keystroke 20% of all tokens got added to 'circulating supply' and neither price or volume changed any any way, only marketcap increased dramatically.
Are you disputing the fact that the circulating supply has decreased from time to time (laughable).


Look at beginning of thread to learn and get facts.


Bro go and get some coks for you.
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July 10, 2017, 09:15:21 AM
#13
20% are founders allocation, price didn't change because they are under strict lockup and can only sell small amounts.

Now you can tell me the founders allocation sux, but:

Jed donated 2B+ to charities :
"Jed will donate 2 billion XRP to a charitable donor-advised fund ("DAF") of his choice. The same limits are placed on the ability of the charity to sell the XRP as are placed on the Jed's ability to sell his remaining XRP."

+ undisclosed amount of XRP to Miri (charity):
https://intelligence.org/2014/01/18/investing-in-xrp/


Chris donated 7B to Rippleworks (charity):
http://www.rippleworks.org/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/rippleworks


Anyway, you see Ripple as the devil.
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July 10, 2017, 08:14:39 AM
#12
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most of the free gifted tokens to banks and partners are locked.

I don't think they give XRP for free considering it worth a lot of money for them, also people always complain Ripple can "dump" coins and now people complain there are lockup agreements preventing exactly that.
lol, you are joke. Ripple stated many times strategic partners (Banks, Coinmarketcap, Exchanges, Friends.......) received free tokens. Are you claiming a Bank is not a strategic partner for them.  XRP is only worth something because fools like you look at marketcap.

Secondary this manly about the other facts like that it is not a decentralized blockchain tech because you can not loose part of a chain, only a on database.

Yeah about that, can you provide evidence?
Feel free to show exactly where this is stated!

Where what is stated?
  • Are you disputing the fact that xrp genesis ledger is Number 32570 and not Number 0 and consequently can not possible be a decentralized blockchain as it would be impossible to loose part of a chain. Loosing part of the data is only possible on a ordinary centralized database.
  • Are you disputing the fact that at a keystroke 20% of all tokens got added to 'circulating supply' and neither price or volume changed any any way, only marketcap increased dramatically.
  • Are you disputing the fact that the circulating supply has decreased from time to time (laughable).


Look at beginning of thread to learn and get facts.

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