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Quote from: glowing10 on July 10, 2020, 12:19:24 AM

Quote from: Philipping on July 07, 2020, 11:19:20 AM

Big war to ban tiktok apps? Applications, not companies, have been banned, is a common occurrence in stats. Without it, there would have been no benefit to vpn.
Indians will continue to use those sites so if you want to fight a service you need to make an alternative to it and make it attractive as investors can benefit from it and develop it.
some Indians had given the app a negative score with less than 3.6. that is big war happen in google play store

With the sudden ban of Tiktok and 59 other apps by India suddenly the downloads would have reduced and surely it would have effected their overall rating as well beacuse of the mounting tension on both side of border . Good thin which has happened is both countries were in talking terms and finally have decided to move back from that area so that peace can prevail back and thing might start to get back on track to some extend . Though the trade war may continue it seems.

Not only Tiktok got banned in India, even those mobile games that was developed in China are getting banned too. As China is getting profits from those mobile games using top-up methods, India banned it so that there will be no more transactions that is going to be made between them. Due to their tensions, both countries' citizens are having a hard time to adjust on the banning of social media platforms.

But if we focus on the positive side of this issue, you will see that they are really doing their best for their people to much enjoy the things that was made buy their countrymen.

They will also patronage their own goods so that their economy will grow together with their own currency, both China and India.

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The whole battle isn't even between the Republic of China and India it is USA and her allies, how come India has been consuming the Chinese products for decades and decide to give a turn around in the midst of the pandemic? What's more surprising is, the ban of Huawei company by the USA. Is India just discovering about data leakage and other forgivable breach of contracts?

Most of these data is coming from Android and the android applications, which I'm sure Indians have their local replacements, why not opt for them and stop using the ones coming from China? Then when the Chinese produces see a major decline in demand they would inquire and make amendments. In a monopsonic economy wars are won by those who bring the best commodities.

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The virus is usually affecting global trade. Global trade is also declining due to new tariffs and retaliatory measures in various countries. This is accompanied by weak economic growth financial market turmoil and the tightening of the monetary policy of developed countries. There is a kind of uncertainty for him. the United States is much ahead in terms of trade trade is being reintroduced in their country.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 14, 2020, 05:35:30 PM

Everything about this Coronavirus story is really something messed up lol. I always used to say that the Chinese are the ones behind this Coronavirus outbreak, because the way things has been happening there it seems like they know about it. It’s not only for the fact that the virus didn’t spread out of Wuhan, apart from that they quickly built a huge hospital building to take care of those that are infected with the virus within a short time that the virus broke out.

For a fact, always remember that whatever is shown as truth, I mean served as a truth, can't always be truth. If they add some coating of gold over shit, doesn't mean that shit gets turned into gold. They didn't let the cases go out of Wu Han, how the fuck is that possible? Not even the nearest ones got affected while this had been spread globally? And now, some guys come randomly trying to save China's ass by defending them and saying that they've not done anything, even after all this?

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Moreover, where it starts getting weird is when scientists, doctors and journalists that tried to report them started to disappear. And they kept Coronavirus a secret and was giving WHO false information until the virus sneaked into other countries. They are definitely behind this. And if you check, more people in China are surviving the virus than those in the US and some other countries. I don’t trust that country, they can do anything.

Their control. Chinese govt.'s control over their media and even their citizens is too much that they won't ever reveal even the correct number of cases as well as total deaths that took place there.

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Quote from: Stedsm on July 14, 2020, 11:43:41 AM

Yes, I hate them not just because they were the reason why Coronavirus came into existence, but also because their main motive to spread that shit is that, they want to invade some areas of many countries. But after knowing that a lot of countries have already started recovering hard and are getting united in breaking trade terms with China, it just started breaching the LAC near Ladakh in India. I'll literally hate China forever. You know a lot? Okay tell me something, why in the name of God, did Coronavirus didn't spread outside Wu Han alone in China, why didn't it reach Beijing while the spread took place badly in Italy and many other parts of Europe later on? Why didn't they tell the world before? Why didn't they stop the travel of their students, businessmen, common people, etc. from their country to other countries?

Everything about this Coronavirus story is really something messed up lol. I always used to say that the Chinese are the ones behind this Coronavirus outbreak, because the way things has been happening there it seems like they know about it. It’s not only for the fact that the virus didn’t spread out of Wuhan, apart from that they quickly built a huge hospital building to take care of those that are infected with the virus within a short time that the virus broke out.

Moreover, where it starts getting weird is when scientists, doctors and journalists that tried to report them started to disappear. And they kept Coronavirus a secret and was giving WHO false information until the virus sneaked into other countries. They are definitely behind this. And if you check, more people in China are surviving the virus than those in the US and some other countries. I don’t trust that country, they can do anything.

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 12, 2020, 11:01:53 PM

Is the end of the trade war the beginning of the military war?

I would not completely rule that out, though I'm also not insinuating that every trade war culminates into war between troops of the respective countries, but the tensions between the US and China is on a whole different level. I don't think trump has been vocal against any country since he became president like he has with China, the animosity between the both countries is building up so fast, the other time we saw united states cut fundings from the WHO and accusing them of working with China in downplaying the virus, till we got to this stage.

It could get to a point when trade wars, open vocal attacks and every other type of vituperations would no longer be enough, then what next, a military attack, very well could.

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Quote from: shoreno on July 14, 2020, 11:02:36 AM

Quote from: crzy on July 14, 2020, 08:34:31 AM

China can’t start a war because we all know that bigger countries will also support to fight against China.

were all in this together . small and big countries were now working as one to combat the covid . for once , they can forget the tension between other countries because the situation we have now is more important than wars .

Not all government sectors are all focused on the covid, you cannot just set aside your people especially if there were killed person under their duty. Why do we have this thinking that all the government sectors are into battling the covid? I mean, yes they are helping in some ways but they are not really in the front for this, doctors and nurses does. You can't just tell the border soldiers to keep calm, I'm not promoting a war, just my thought on this one.

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The trade war is getting worst, more countries are following the decision of US while China is making a lot of pressure on South China Sea to bully small countries. I admire Vietnam and Indonesia on their will to protect their territory, but my very own country looks like doesn’t care at all. We don’t know how the trade war will end but hopefully we don’t end up losing more lives because of war, this is very dangerous.

with the covid thing that happened i am sure many countries still cant move on and still angry on china so they will follow the u.s country instead . what country you are living with and why your country wont care ? luckily im one of those country that fights for thier own rights but who wouldnt be and wanted to be invaded by others .

We know China, they are aggressive, very aggressive when it comes to their territory they even invaded the West Philippines Sea lol. Imagine an Island they are claiming, thousands of miles far from them, yet there they are building artificial islands. Bully as we know it, who'll pull the trigger first?

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We live in a world where sanctions could hurt harder than weapons. I mean if you put sanctions and embargo on China as all of american continent, south american continent and europea, you are basically killing them anyway without shooting one single bullet. It is not even that weird because you as a nation say that "china is doing inhumane things so we are not going to work with them anymore" and that is not really that weird, it makes sense and I would support that.

So, these rising tensions between nations in economical warfare do result with bad stuff, maybe not bad stuff that will be effective right away but it will definitely be effective in the long run. When you shoot a bullet you kill someone right there, but when you stop buying stuff from them you make them poor and they starve and they realize it is their governments' fault and try to change it.

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..., they'll just start sending Coronavirus through their products in order to increase the pandemic ratio in India knowing that it's 2nd largest in terms of population?

Come on man. No one is sending virus to anyone. Everyone is fighting to kill virus. Some countries fight seriously like Vietnam and South Korea and China. Some countries like Brazill and some others dont give that much focus. Noone is so dumb to deliberately spread virus since it can come back as a boomerang and behead them.

You don't even know f*ck about what's going on and still came defending China. Yes, I hate them not just because they were the reason why Coronavirus came into existence, but also because their main motive to spread that shit is that, they want to invade some areas of many countries. But after knowing that a lot of countries have already started recovering hard and are getting united in breaking trade terms with China, it just started breaching the LAC near Ladakh in India. I'll literally hate China forever. You know a lot? Okay tell me something, why in the name of God, did Coronavirus didn't spread outside Wu Han alone in China, why didn't it reach Beijing while the spread took place badly in Italy and many other parts of Europe later on? Why didn't they tell the world before? Why didn't they stop the travel of their students, businessmen, common people, etc. from their country to other countries?

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Quote from: crzy on July 14, 2020, 08:34:31 AM

China can’t start a war because we all know that bigger countries will also support to fight against China.

were all in this together . small and big countries were now working as one to combat the covid . for once , they can forget the tension between other countries because the situation we have now is more important than wars .

Quote from: crzy on July 14, 2020, 08:34:31 AM

The trade war is getting worst, more countries are following the decision of US while China is making a lot of pressure on South China Sea to bully small countries. I admire Vietnam and Indonesia on their will to protect their territory, but my very own country looks like doesn’t care at all. We don’t know how the trade war will end but hopefully we don’t end up losing more lives because of war, this is very dangerous.

with the covid thing that happened i am sure many countries still cant move on and still angry on china so they will follow the u.s country instead . what country you are living with and why your country wont care ? luckily im one of those country that fights for thier own rights but who wouldnt be and wanted to be invaded by others .

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 12, 2020, 11:01:53 PM

Quote from: Savemore on July 11, 2020, 01:48:52 AM

Trump is now often saying to his speech that China will be responsible for what happened all over the world. The U.S is not only the country who suffered because of the virus but major economies all over the world collapsed. There is currently recession in world economy and ot results to the increase of job unemployment rates. The tensions between China and other country is rising and there are now a lot of foreign companies based on China are now leaving and transferring to other countries because of what happened.

Chinese and American tensions are followed by shows of their military strength in the South Sea region. The US mobilized a large number of its troops, strengthened and deepened its military alliance with Japan, India, and Australia and allegedly carried out intensive provocative activities targeting the Chinese target, so that the Chinese response only increased the military budget and built its military forces with the appropriate capacity to uphold its national security. In addition, the issue also emerged that 7 days of rain that caused flooding in China was allegedly caused by America and its HAARP. Is the end of the trade war the beginning of the military war?

China can’t start a war because we all know that bigger countries will also support to fight against China. The trade war is getting worst, more countries are following the decision of US while China is making a lot of pressure on South China Sea to bully small countries. I admire Vietnam and Indonesia on their will to protect their territory, but my very own country looks like doesn’t care at all. We don’t know how the trade war will end but hopefully we don’t end up losing more lives because of war, this is very dangerous.

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Quote from: Lucius on July 14, 2020, 06:36:49 AM

Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 12, 2020, 11:01:53 PM

In addition, the issue also emerged that 7 days of rain that caused flooding in China was allegedly caused by America and its HAARP. Is the end of the trade war the beginning of the military war?

So if HAARP really works in a way that it can affect weather or earthquakes (which of course is just a guess), then the Chinese could use it to strike back and, say, submerge some part of the USA with heavy rains? I do not believe that such technology would be available only in the USA, but that the Chinese would make something much more efficient if it were possible.

Military conflict is not in the interest of anyone (at least no normal person), because what would be achieved with that? China is too strong to be militarily defeated in any sense, and I doubt that Russia would stand by and watch someone attack its allies, and yet here we are talking about almost 2 billion people on one side, and 330 million Americans + those allies who would be mad enough to go into such a conflict. Any military conflict between such large military superpowers would mean World War 3, and there should be some very good reason for that - not some trade war.

Demonstrating of military power has been going on for decades in that region, I don’t see it as an indicator of real conflict.

That HAARP is one crazy story! Is it possible that some people (people who run our countries, armies) are crazy enough to play with weather and earthquakes? Can we imagine consequences for all of us if they do something wrong, or they do it too much? I would put those people in the mine with shovels to dig for the rest of their lives and to never get out from that mine!

Demonstration of military power is how you advertise the weapons you have, later you can sell that weapon! It's a business, conflicts are being created so the weapons can be sold, money to be earned! I don't buy that shit anymore, in the end just innocent people get hurt!

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 12, 2020, 11:01:53 PM

In addition, the issue also emerged that 7 days of rain that caused flooding in China was allegedly caused by America and its HAARP. Is the end of the trade war the beginning of the military war?

So if HAARP really works in a way that it can affect weather or earthquakes (which of course is just a guess), then the Chinese could use it to strike back and, say, submerge some part of the USA with heavy rains? I do not believe that such technology would be available only in the USA, but that the Chinese would make something much more efficient if it were possible.

Military conflict is not in the interest of anyone (at least no normal person), because what would be achieved with that? China is too strong to be militarily defeated in any sense, and I doubt that Russia would stand by and watch someone attack its allies, and yet here we are talking about almost 2 billion people on one side, and 330 million Americans + those allies who would be mad enough to go into such a conflict. Any military conflict between such large military superpowers would mean World War 3, and there should be some very good reason for that - not some trade war.

Demonstrating of military power has been going on for decades in that region, I don’t see it as an indicator of real conflict.

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Quote from: Savemore on July 11, 2020, 01:48:52 AM

Trump is now often saying to his speech that China will be responsible for what happened all over the world. The U.S is not only the country who suffered because of the virus but major economies all over the world collapsed. There is currently recession in world economy and ot results to the increase of job unemployment rates. The tensions between China and other country is rising and there are now a lot of foreign companies based on China are now leaving and transferring to other countries because of what happened.

Chinese and American tensions are followed by shows of their military strength in the South Sea region. The US mobilized a large number of its troops, strengthened and deepened its military alliance with Japan, India, and Australia and allegedly carried out intensive provocative activities targeting the Chinese target, so that the Chinese response only increased the military budget and built its military forces with the appropriate capacity to uphold its national security. In addition, the issue also emerged that 7 days of rain that caused flooding in China was allegedly caused by America and its HAARP. Is the end of the trade war the beginning of the military war?

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on July 10, 2020, 04:15:12 PM

India is not the only country that has plans to ban Chinese apps, other countries like the U.S might as well be banning Chinese social media apps. I have been seeing it on the news and the particular app they have been advising people to stop making use of is the TikTok app.The reason being that there is the possibility of them using the app to harvest data from people. I really don’t see anything wrong with that. If a country feels like they shouldn’t allow some applications to be running in their country, then they should ban it. And I have heard that these Chinese apps requests and access information that they are not meant to, so they might be really bad.

Trump is now often saying to his speech that China will be responsible for what happened all over the world. The U.S is not only the country who suffered because of the virus but major economies all over the world collapsed. There is currently recession in world economy and ot results to the increase of job unemployment rates. The tensions between China and other country is rising and there are now a lot of foreign companies based on China are now leaving and transferring to other countries because of what happened.

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India is not the only country that has plans to ban Chinese apps, other countries like the U.S might as well be banning Chinese social media apps. I have been seeing it on the news and the particular app they have been advising people to stop making use of is the TikTok app.The reason being that there is the possibility of them using the app to harvest data from people. I really don’t see anything wrong with that. If a country feels like they shouldn’t allow some applications to be running in their country, then they should ban it. And I have heard that these Chinese apps requests and access information that they are not meant to, so they might be really bad.

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Tensions between the two countries between India and China have an effect on Chinese apps blacklisted by the Indian government.
Because it is considered endanger the security of the Indian state, and this is detrimental to both countries in my opinion. We know
that India is a country that imports a lot of Chinese products, so many Chinese factories operate in India and managed to open jobs
in India. If the two countries do not immediately make peace having an effect on global trade, in this case America will benefit as
China's biggest competitor in the economy.

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Global trading right now really invites a lot of threats to those countries involved. It affects the people who are physically present within the transaction and not showing up or not coming to terms would really hurt the countries relationship within one another which would result tensions. Every country just wants to be safe and their decisions must be for the greater good of the country for it.

The countries decision needs to be safe for it not to affect the health of the people who are involve in the transactions.

Third world countries involve in transactions with more advance countries would really result in poor decisions because they do not want to have any tensions between them.

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Quote from: Lucius on July 09, 2020, 10:24:49 AM

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Agree, businesses are only there for one thing, profit. Especially so since China is a big country. With their size, allocating factories to be placed there so that employees could be hired couldn't be more sensible than ever. Businesses aren't something morality covers, it's about taking advantage and being taken advantage of. Dog eat dog world so to say. Besides, that's how most businesses work anyway, the rich only get richer, while the poor get poorer.

Quote from: Peanutswar on July 08, 2020, 07:02:09 AM

I don't think so that they will continue this kind of war from because they must take a declaration first and this is not the right time they must need to focus on fighting the pandemic outbreak because most of the economic status of the country is on recovering and they must need to help their own community than destroying others.

If this war becomes there are a lot of people may affect because in china they have 1,439,323,776 and in India is 1,387,297,452 people according to google and those are a huge number of people that can possibly die because of this war.

I don't think they'd end up going to affect the entirety of their citizens much. I believe we're at the age where wars would probably be fought without affecting the citizens, at the very least, scenes of fighting would avoid civilization. I doubt any country going to war would be so idiotic to attack civilizations when resources are already limited as it is. Sure, supplies and necessities may drop in number, but direct assault by soldiers towards innocent civilians shouldn't happen.

Additionally, economic problems seem like a good enough reason to attack other countries. Especially if they failed to actually do something to negate losses properly.

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Quote from: Philipping on July 07, 2020, 11:19:20 AM

Big war to ban tiktok apps? Applications, not companies, have been banned, is a common occurrence in stats. Without it, there would have been no benefit to vpn.
Indians will continue to use those sites so if you want to fight a service you need to make an alternative to it and make it attractive as investors can benefit from it and develop it.
some Indians had given the app a negative score with less than 3.6. that is big war happen in google play store

With the sudden ban of Tiktok and 59 other apps by India suddenly the downloads would have reduced and surely it would have effected their overall rating as well beacuse of the mounting tension on both side of border . Good thin which has happened is both countries were in talking terms and finally have decided to move back from that area so that peace can prevail back and thing might start to get back on track to some extend . Though the trade war may continue it seems.

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