Is it a similar story with paypal ouside of ebay ?
If there is no payment-contract, on which basis can they freeze or invalidate the transaction after it happened ?
Am i screwed if someone payed a miner with a hacked account ?
I get several offers for Paypal so i am wondering if i can accept it.
Topic: risks of selling Miners on ebay - page 2. (Read 1416 times)
You can google it and see the horror stories of sellers on Ebay. Ebay will ALWAYS side with the buyer. No matter what. If you think about it, they have to. There are new sellers every day, but no one would buy anything off Ebay if they read as a buyer you got scammed.
What this does is open sellers up to being scammed. As someone posted, I could buy a miner, say its "not as described", YOU will have to pay the return shipping, and when I send you a rock, I'll still get my money back. I've read where someone opened the box in front of a Police Officer who said the contents were not correct and Ebay doesn't care. They are not there when an item was shipped or opened so they AUTOMATICALLY side with the buyer and refund the money.
I could buy broken cards, then buy your good 1080ti and send you back a broken card. You can cry all you want that it wasn't what you sent, the serial number is different, ect... but I'll still keep the card and get my money back.
I sell on ebay a lot and will only sell items that if I lost, I wouldn't care.
I would suggest you do the same.
Ebay is a great place to buy, but selling be careful.
What this does is open sellers up to being scammed. As someone posted, I could buy a miner, say its "not as described", YOU will have to pay the return shipping, and when I send you a rock, I'll still get my money back. I've read where someone opened the box in front of a Police Officer who said the contents were not correct and Ebay doesn't care. They are not there when an item was shipped or opened so they AUTOMATICALLY side with the buyer and refund the money.
I could buy broken cards, then buy your good 1080ti and send you back a broken card. You can cry all you want that it wasn't what you sent, the serial number is different, ect... but I'll still keep the card and get my money back.
I sell on ebay a lot and will only sell items that if I lost, I wouldn't care.
I would suggest you do the same.
Ebay is a great place to buy, but selling be careful.
Ebay is a pain in the rear, have definitely had someone buy equipment then try to return it for a full refund after more than 90 days of use, paypal sided with the buyer. Also paypal sets arbitrary limits on sellers and then paypal holds your money once you cross the monthly threshold for 21-90 days.
I had paid to air freight some equipment in during the shortage and now that the prices have normalized they want a full refund not an exchange and they claimed item not as described.
I had paid to air freight some equipment in during the shortage and now that the prices have normalized they want a full refund not an exchange and they claimed item not as described.
It's ebay. They can file a claim and send you a rock back. You have no recourse.
Wow, can they really do that ? I mean if i have a witness which witnesses that they send me a rock back, how will ebay get to the cash ?
They have me in their filthy hands with Paypal and i read some bad stuff that happened to small companies with PayPal.
But idk, i can even click that the article cannot be given back. So what does the seller wanna say ?
"Meh its too loud, here have it back, i ignore dem conditions ?"
Might accepting pickup and cash only be an option ?
There are a lot of carder who use ebay. They stole people's credit card to buy things in ebay. I think ebay it's not the only place to sell online. I would prefer a local online shop to sell my things. It's better to meet in person, so that we cannot be fooled. There are a lot of online shop out there, not just ebay.
I've been selling miners (well gpu's) on eBay for a few of months and so far I've had zero issues
Thanks for that info. With GPUs you have a kinda higher shelf-life than these ASICs so it will prob not be worth so much to file a claim there.
If you get your asic- miner back from a customer after a month, that ***** might have mined well over 1k with it and the value has decreased for 700$
I've been selling miners (well gpu's) on eBay for a few of months and so far I've had zero issues
You can use the hardware for 6months and then file a claim that its broken or not what what described. Ebay is all about the buyer and not the sellers, but if you protect yourself and have the buyers responds that they are satisfied with the purchase then you have some leverage if they file a claim.
I've been selling miners (well gpu's) on eBay for a few of months and so far I've had zero issues
It's ebay. They can file a claim and send you a rock back. You have no recourse.
Wow, can they really do that ? I mean if i have a witness which witnesses that they send me a rock back, how will ebay get to the cash ?
They have me in their filthy hands with Paypal and i read some bad stuff that happened to small companies with PayPal.
But idk, i can even click that the article cannot be given back. So what does the seller wanna say ?
"Meh its too loud, here have it back, i ignore dem conditions ?"
Might accepting pickup and cash only be an option ?
It's ebay. They can file a claim and send you a rock back. You have no recourse.
Interested to know as well. 
Every now and then i read about issues with ebay with sold ASIC miners on ebay.
There are a few questions for that in my mind:
- are these problems only for commercial sales (when you do mining as a business?)
- are these problems also appearing if you add a disclaimer that you do not provide warranty as a private seller ?
What has really happened to you or someone you know on ebay ?
There are a few questions for that in my mind:
- are these problems only for commercial sales (when you do mining as a business?)
- are these problems also appearing if you add a disclaimer that you do not provide warranty as a private seller ?
What has really happened to you or someone you know on ebay ?
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