Roger Ver Apology Video - Give Him Some Credit Please

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Quote from: btj on June 10, 2018, 06:43:43 PM

Bcash = anti Bitcoin, this is the goal of this altcoin.

And Bcash give the image of his founder ... thank's to him for what he does before for bitcoin, but he don't deserve now mentionning him ever, bitcoin has no accountable to him same as the community.

Many people agree with you, they do not like Roger Ver

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Bcash = anti Bitcoin, this is the goal of this altcoin.

And Bcash give the image of his founder ... thank's to him for what he does before for bitcoin, but he don't deserve now mentionning him ever, bitcoin has no accountable to him same as the community.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on June 10, 2018, 06:04:18 PM

He is not happy with the over all development and both parties are accusing each other, rather than having a healthy debate it is just an unhealthy situation but the video you posted is an old one and the content is that the interviewer was rather abusive and he should have walked away rather than continuing with the interview and Ver being an emotional guy lost his cool and the particular video is about his apology on how things went and nothing else. Cheesy

Specifically which aspects of the overall development is Ver not happy with?

Of the two parties you refer to (I presume Bitcoin devs and Ver Bitcoin Cash) what are they accusing each other of?

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Quote from: JollyGood on June 01, 2018, 12:04:20 PM

Does anybody know the actual specific grievances Ver has with the Bitcoin developers apart from fees, transaction times and block size?

He is not happy with the over all development and both parties are accusing each other, rather than having a healthy debate it is just an unhealthy situation but the video you posted is an old one and the content is that the interviewer was rather abusive and he should have walked away rather than continuing with the interview and Ver being an emotional guy lost his cool and the particular video is about his apology on how things went and nothing else. Cheesy

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Quote from: Marlo Stanfield on June 10, 2018, 04:24:25 PM

If someone is just looking to make money on a trade then there's probably been tons more profitable pump-and-dump alts that people have made/would have made more money on than BCH. At least with some of those alts/ICOs or whatever they are a few of them are actually genuine(I assume anyway, I know it's mostly trash).

I agree with what you wrote but right now there are no signs of Bitcoin Cash being a "pump and dump" game, it seems to be there for the long haul.

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Quote from: Marlo Stanfield on June 10, 2018, 12:53:31 PM

I don't see how BCH seems like a good investment at all, let alone multiplying your capital. The one thing it had was a short window where the fees were much less expensive than Bitcoin. But that was a result of various issues that are no longer causing the same situation. So what is it now other than a tool used by Ver and co. to more or less scam newbies and dump on them?

Well BCH did jump from $200 in August 2017 to over $1000 where it is today so as a purely investment option the was scope and might well be scope for growth but because of the hand behind Bitcoin Cash and the perceived plan it is being used to try to attack Bitcoin many people are not interested in it.

If someone is just looking to make money on a trade then there's probably been tons more profitable pump-and-dump alts that people have made/would have made more money on than BCH. At least with some of those alts/ICOs or whatever they are a few of them are actually genuine(I assume anyway, I know it's mostly trash).

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 10, 2018, 01:04:17 PM

I'm totally tired of this politics behind the Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash. And I really don't care because I know that Bitcoin will really come on top. Ver already made his decision so shift side and attack Bitcoin so I doubt that people will find his apology sincere.

But on the other hand, if we had like Ver in our side to promote Bitcoin, I think if will be good for us, just like Vitalik is to Ethereum. I think time will tell and be the judge on how Ver should be treated around the crypto sphere. Its going to be a lot of pros and cons and arguments about him, but I don't give a f**.

Bitcoin will survive and progress with or without Ver. What shocks many people is that he seems to have bitten the hand that fed him, why he seems to hate Bitcoin so much yet hold thousands of Bitcoins is beyond anyone. Why he seems to push Bitcoin Cash as the 'real' Bitcoin when it is nothing more than a fork is also problematic so many people have already made up their minds on Ver.

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I'm totally tired of this politics behind the Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash. And I really don't care because I know that Bitcoin will really come on top. Ver already made his decision so shift side and attack Bitcoin so I doubt that people will find his apology sincere.

But on the other hand, if we had like Ver in our side to promote Bitcoin, I think if will be good for us, just like Vitalik is to Ethereum. I think time will tell and be the judge on how Ver should be treated around the crypto sphere. Its going to be a lot of pros and cons and arguments about him, but I don't give a f**.

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Quote from: Marlo Stanfield on June 10, 2018, 12:53:31 PM

I don't see how BCH seems like a good investment at all, let alone multiplying your capital. The one thing it had was a short window where the fees were much less expensive than Bitcoin. But that was a result of various issues that are no longer causing the same situation. So what is it now other than a tool used by Ver and co. to more or less scam newbies and dump on them?

Well BCH did jump from $200 in August 2017 to over $1000 where it is today so as a purely investment option the was scope and might well be scope for growth but because of the hand behind Bitcoin Cash and the perceived plan it is being used to try to attack Bitcoin many people are not interested in it.

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Quote from: kaitleen91 on June 10, 2018, 12:21:52 PM

Personally, I don't care if BCH is considered a real bitcoin or not. It seems to me that BCH is an excellent investment tool for multiplying your capital. And Roger Ver is doing everything for growing BCH. This will be especially noticeable when the market trend will change to a growing one.

I don't see how BCH seems like a good investment at all, let alone multiplying your capital. The one thing it had was a short window where the fees were much less expensive than Bitcoin. But that was a result of various issues that are no longer causing the same situation. So what is it now other than a tool used by Ver and co. to more or less scam newbies and dump on them?

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Quote from: Sam San on June 10, 2018, 12:22:44 PM

Before you attack bitcoin, you need to understand this issue, understand all aspects, and then make public speeches.Whether to apologize or not is a personal matter, but this performance does not look serious.

Yes many people feel the same, his performance does not look serious or genuine.

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Before you attack bitcoin, you need to understand this issue, understand all aspects, and then make public speeches.Whether to apologize or not is a personal matter, but this performance does not look serious.

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Personally, I don't care if BCH is considered a real bitcoin or not. It seems to me that BCH is an excellent investment tool for multiplying your capital. And Roger Ver is doing everything for growing BCH. This will be especially noticeable when the market trend will change to a growing one.

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Quote from: Marlo Stanfield on June 10, 2018, 11:57:00 AM

I actually can't really imagine how anyone could seriously justify having anything to do with him after all that's happened in the past few years. Like he actively tries to harm Bitcoin. It's crazy, because he still holds a ton of BTC I believe.

Yes that hypocrisy of Ver holding thousands of Bitcoin yet actively trying to push Bitcoin Cash as the 'real' Bitcoin even though it is a fork is very bad.

I hope Roger one day realises the damage he has caused and simply puts things right again.

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Quote from: JollyGood on June 10, 2018, 09:00:48 AM

Quote from: tunapa on June 09, 2018, 02:17:49 AM

I don't see this as an apology video. Though he has tried a lot for Bitcoin in the past and now he has become the enemy of it and I do not think there is any cogent reason for him to become Bitcoin enemy or perhaps he has an hidden agenda. The bitcoin community will grow strong without him. Let him face BCH and leave Bitcoin . we don't need any apology from him.

Many people share your views and not interested in anything Ver has to do or say because they feel Ver is not genuine and has bitten the hand (Bitcoin) that made him rich.

I actually can't really imagine how anyone could seriously justify having anything to do with him after all that's happened in the past few years. Like he actively tries to harm Bitcoin. It's crazy, because he still holds a ton of BTC I believe.

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Quote from: tunapa on June 09, 2018, 02:17:49 AM

I don't see this as an apology video. Though he has tried a lot for Bitcoin in the past and now he has become the enemy of it and I do not think there is any cogent reason for him to become Bitcoin enemy or perhaps he has an hidden agenda. The bitcoin community will grow strong without him. Let him face BCH and leave Bitcoin . we don't need any apology from him.

Many people share your views and not interested in anything Ver has to do or say because they feel Ver is not genuine and has bitten the hand (Bitcoin) that made him rich.

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I don't see this as an apology video. Though he has tried a lot for Bitcoin in the past and now he has become the enemy of it and I do not think there is any cogent reason for him to become Bitcoin enemy or perhaps he has an hidden agenda. The bitcoin community will grow strong without him. Let him face BCH and leave Bitcoin . we don't need any apology from him.

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Quote from: hodlftw on June 01, 2018, 02:06:09 PM

This is hardly worry of any praise because he is only apologizing to get his credibility back. Also where is the apology for trying to make people think Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin? Yeah thats what I thought, and I'll wait for the real video that means something. This guy is deceptive, and I don't think he will ever stop being that. For me, this apology means nothing and is a PR move.

Like many people you are also waiting for the "real" apology. Many people agree with you that Ver is deceptive and have dismissed his apology because it did not seem genuine at all.

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Quote from: RochaMckay on June 07, 2018, 03:15:46 AM

Regardless of specific grievances with the Bitcoin devs apparently being 'fees, transaction times and block size' even if things were 100% perfect he'd still be against them at this point. Even now things are pretty great right now and the scaling is going well. But Roger is more interested in his own personal power, ego, and wealth

people like Roger Ver only care about their pockets and how they can fill it with more money. there is no being against or for anything here. he is against everything but his own interest. if bitcoin cash stops giving him profit then he will dump that just as fast and moves on to something that he can milk more and make more money from. even this "apology video" is so fucked up, it is only an apology in title.

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Regardless of specific grievances with the Bitcoin devs apparently being 'fees, transaction times and block size' even if things were 100% perfect he'd still be against them at this point. Even now things are pretty great right now and the scaling is going well. But Roger is more interested in his own personal power, ego, and wealth

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