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Quote from: westkybitcoins on October 28, 2012, 02:31:50 PM

Every day I feel less bad about wanting an economic collapse to come about and smash this system, and to ruin those sorts who depend on it and use it to enact such injustice.

What makes you believe an economic collapse would bring something better?

These injustices happen everywhere. The whole world is fucked up when you think about it. I'm not sure a collapse would bring something better.

Quote from: jwzguy on October 28, 2012, 02:53:16 PM

It's really scary to think about how easily it could happen to any of us, if someone with pull chooses to make it happen. Scary and infuriating.

Definitely scary. It may really happen to anyone. The "reason" might be totally banal, like somebody got interested in your wife...
Did you read the chicken man story I linked above? He ended up dead because some municipal officials wanted to build a "green area" on his property.

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 28, 2012, 03:41:23 PM

Quote from: BCB on October 28, 2012, 03:24:25 PM

I vote to move this thread to the trash can and theymos, I'd gladly take GOAT back if you ban this FUD mongerer MOE-PR

Dude, seriously, who the fuck are you again? I must have missed the moment when you did something I should care about. Or at least remember or something.

I'm nobody. I just find you annoying. Sorry.

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Quote from: BCB on October 28, 2012, 03:24:25 PM

I vote to move this thread to the trash can and theymos, I'd gladly take GOAT back if you ban this FUD mongerer MOE-PR

Dude, seriously, who the fuck are you again? I must have missed the moment when you did something I should care about. Or at least remember or something.

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I vote to move this thread to the trash can and theymos, I'd gladly take GOAT back if you ban this FUD mongerer MOE-PR

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This is totally OFF-TOPIC

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Quote from: westkybitcoins on October 28, 2012, 02:31:50 PM

That's insane.

Every day I feel less bad about wanting an economic collapse to come about and smash this system, and to ruin those sorts who depend on it and use it to enact such injustice.

It was completely insane. I have to fix my earlier statements though - it's been over a decade since I discussed this with my friend. He got 6 years + 3 years supervised release. He was not charged with mail fraud, but "conspiracy to commit mail fraud" - and there weren't any actual mistakes - it was supposedly about his business solvency - but his business was solvent the entire time. They railroaded him and destroyed his life.

It's really scary to think about how easily it could happen to any of us, if someone with pull chooses to make it happen. Scary and infuriating.

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Quote from: jwzguy on October 28, 2012, 02:01:06 PM

Quote from: EhVedadoOAnonimato on October 28, 2012, 01:47:29 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on October 28, 2012, 01:17:45 PM

All this does is strengthen my association of "ex-con" with living in a police state. It no longer has any automatic negative connotation.

Exactly. According to this post of him, Roger apparently provoked the wrong people, and got sent to jail for a non-crime that normally is not actually punished.

It's crypto-totalitarianism. Everyone is a potential "criminal". Provoke the wrong people, and they may literally destroy your life.

This exact same thing happened to a friend of mine's dad. He ran for state political office and they threatened to destroy his life if he didn't quit the race. When he didn't, they trumped up some absolute garbage about how the insurance company he owned sent some business paperwork with mistakes in it through the mail, constituting mail fraud. He spent 10 years in jail. The case was complete nonsense, his business was the very clean, and everyone involved knew it. Our "justice" system is a joke.

That's insane.

Every day I feel less bad about wanting an economic collapse to come about and smash this system, and to ruin those sorts who depend on it and use it to enact such injustice.

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Quote from: jwzguy on October 28, 2012, 01:17:45 PM

All this does is strengthen my association of "ex-con" with living in a police state. It no longer has any automatic negative connotation.

It would seem that conviction speaks louder against the US Govt than against Mr. Ver.

Quote from: BCB on October 28, 2012, 01:03:38 PM

I found the original post particularly offensive.

This is yet another reason that when your ignore button gets dark enough the user should automatically be given the douche bag tag and their posts should not longer be visable anywhere unless other users click on them.

MOE-PR - You should change that subject line too.

What exactly is your problem?

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Quote from: EhVedadoOAnonimato on October 28, 2012, 01:47:29 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on October 28, 2012, 01:17:45 PM

All this does is strengthen my association of "ex-con" with living in a police state. It no longer has any automatic negative connotation.

Exactly. According to this post of him, Roger apparently provoked the wrong people, and got sent to jail for a non-crime that normally is not actually punished.

Looks like he made the mistake of not operating under a government created fiction called a corporation. The people who they should have prosecuted got away with just stopping sales of the product:

http://amarillo.com/stories/2003/01/18/usn_missouricom.shtml

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Quote from: EhVedadoOAnonimato on October 28, 2012, 01:47:29 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on October 28, 2012, 01:17:45 PM

All this does is strengthen my association of "ex-con" with living in a police state. It no longer has any automatic negative connotation.

Exactly. According to this post of him, Roger apparently provoked the wrong people, and got sent to jail for a non-crime that normally is not actually punished.

It's crypto-totalitarianism. Everyone is a potential "criminal". Provoke the wrong people, and they may literally destroy your life.

This exact same thing happened to a friend of mine's dad. He ran for state political office and they threatened to destroy his life if he didn't quit the race. When he didn't, they trumped up some absolute garbage about how the insurance company he owned sent some business paperwork with mistakes in it through the mail, constituting mail fraud. He spent 10 years in jail. The case was complete nonsense, his business was the very clean, and everyone involved knew it. Our "justice" system is a joke.

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OMG HE BROKE VICTIMLESS CRIME LAWS WHAT A TRAGEDY

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He purchased approximately 49 pounds of the devices from a supplier in South Carolina, and sold at least 14 pounds of the devices to bidders on eBay.

And each one has 1 gram of "explosives" in it? (per the "fireworks link") and probably weighs 50-100 grams in total?

I am pretty sure I legally bought "devices" like that for the fourth of July when I was fourteen years old.

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Quote from: jwzguy on October 28, 2012, 01:17:45 PM

All this does is strengthen my association of "ex-con" with living in a police state. It no longer has any automatic negative connotation.

Exactly. According to this post of him, Roger apparently provoked the wrong people, and got sent to jail for a non-crime that normally is not actually punished.

It's crypto-totalitarianism. Everyone is a potential "criminal". Provoke the wrong people, and they may literally destroy your life.

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psy, I'll still like you no matter how dark your ignore button gets.

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Quote from: BitPay Business Solutions on October 28, 2012, 12:43:20 PM

This is well known. We still support Roger 100% with his support of bitcoin.

All this does is strengthen my association of "ex-con" with living in a police state. It no longer has any automatic negative connotation.

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Quote from: BCB on October 28, 2012, 01:03:38 PM

This is yet another reason that when your ignore button gets dark enough the user should automatically be given the douche bag tag and their posts should not longer be visable anywhere unless other users click on them.

gee... Thanks a lot for that...

Now back on topic.
I'm also an ex-con. And so what? Am I less of a person because I decided to stand for what I believed and got sent to jail because of it?

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I found the original post particularly offensive.

This is yet another reason that when your ignore button gets dark enough the user should automatically be given the douche bag tag and their posts should not longer be visable anywhere unless other users click on them.

MOE-PR - You should change that subject line too.

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This is well known. We still support Roger 100% with his support of bitcoin.

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Quote from: MPOE-PR on October 28, 2012, 04:36:49 AM

Is this news to everyone or just me?

maybe not just you, but he isn't keeping it a secret:

Quote from: MemoryDealers on September 27, 2012, 01:33:13 PM

As a convicted felon, I think [...]

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Seems they were some sort of fireworks.

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