Topic: Roger Ver: ‘Maybe I’ve Been Fooled’ by Craig Wright (Read 427 times)

I don't believe in the school of thought that before a group of developers or a developer develop something new an existing system need to be condemn. If we think that there are flops in the existing system lets us improve on it other than condemning it. Bitcoin is the foundation in which we are developing all other protocol or mechanism.

Speaking of Ver, I don't agree with Core enthusiasts blaming him for going with bcash. Ver is an idealist, he doesn't comply with bitcoin as a reserve currency discourse BlockStream and Core enthusiasts insist on, neither do I.

Ver made a mistake by joining to bcash campus though, he overestimated his responsibility and the crisis level both, forking to bcash was the only option he was able to see to keep bitcoin for mainstream, daily cash transfer practices. He was wrong, bitcoin didn't turn to be a reserve shit after SegWit, Core is not running bitcoin and we have a lot of time and a few more battles to fight before giving up with bitcoin and handing it to few whales who are dreaming of being the treasury department of the world!

I just started another topic which is somehow relevant, it is about an article Wright has published and I think it is the main controversy between the two:
Wright is scamming some investors by assuring them about "everything is legal", he needs a fully state-controllable system to convince old-white-rich investors to hand him their money, such a fraud is this man. Ver? He is really a fool, like me, following his ideals.

i talk ontopic. EG mentioning the ver craig kardashian drama. that its just drama and of no importance..
YOU derail it into a personal attack to insult me while defending devs.

i have not told you to shut up of F**K off(unlike you). the only thing i ever done was tell you to go research

but if you dont want people to talk. maybe dont come to websites where the point is for people to comment about things..
or atleast if you dont like what i say.. hit ignore button.

    ignore can be found in the corner.. anyway ver craig are just "drama" and dont affect bitcoin protocol.. so lets yawn and laugh

Then stop complaining and either pay someone to code what you want or learn how to code it yourself if you don't like the protocol.  We're quite happy with it, thank you.  What we're not happy with is you derailing every single goddamn topic on the forum to wage your pathetic little hate campaign.  Shut up already.

well now he seems like a fraud, in early days many newbies actually believed him! specially when Gavin approved his fake signature because he was paid to do so... and a lot of others only said they believe him because it suited their needs at the time.
when it comes to money everyone thinks about their own benefits.

You could not find a bigger asshole than Craig Wright.  That guy is a world class crybaby: 'I am going to war with you and sue you with my patents'.  What a fucking royal piece of shit joke.  How did anyone spend 5 minutes listening to that guy? 

Roger Ver is a very intelligent person and a very important person for the crypto-money world. I don't believe he'il be fooled by anyone. He may be trying to explain something.

i have many times gone against jihan, ver, craig and core..

the thing is when it comes to PROTOCOL issues. only the devs write the code so yea only they are to blame
as for other stuff i correct the myths.
such as racism about china.. (nothing to do with bitcoin or mining or social drama PR guys that represent a brand)
such as that code issues are caused by devs.  (code doesnt write itself)
such as that code changes are caused by devs (code doesnt write itself)

EG the "china 51%" fake news.. i mention that slush is in thailand and f2pool is international and then i say how antpool is actually more diverse then people think
(but same old people only look narrowmindedly at small out of context stuff they can spin into social drama games)

it seems as soon as i inform about issues that are code related. many regular people from a certain group. go on a core dev defensive and not a bitcoin protocol/security defense.

another example
vers middle finger outburst
i laughed and facepalmed ver and thought he was a fool. within weeks though he made an apology to the community.. yet the same regular group of people for 6 months+ were making memes and screaming and repeating that he should make an apology(long after the apology) which again i laughed because the screamers making it into a social drama didnt even realise what scripts of screams they were screaming about to realise their own screams of social drama were out of date

all the social drama of pointing fingers away from devs and over dramatising non devs become very clearly seen as a weak and comedy response which i laugh at. as it is becoming very clear its the same echo chambers that originate from reddit/twitter

so how about instead of finger point social crap. or getting advisd on what social drama to copy and paste next via reddit/twitter..
try reading code looking at where code flaws originate and the defend BITCOIN the network(not defend a dev). stop finger pointing at altcoins and other non blockchain networks and other guys that dont even code..
start talking about BITCOIN(without the usual defend a dev campaign social stuff)

This is how it end up when you think you are smart enough to spoil a great work someone had work hard for to bring light to decentralized money and be early adopter now make him think he is superior and can tell people what to believe or what to do in this cryptocurrency space, they are just a fool as he rightly said and nothing again , instead of concentrating on his coin he was out there spoiling the image of Bitcoin and now his turn , so which one will be the real Bitcoin now among the two bcrash .

doomad.
i dont desire EC

i mentioned one possibility. you then spun it into making it out that im then in some camp that wants x/y/z.
you even spun up drama that i am some tyrant.. yet. as i pointed out in this thread. if the person aint producing code they cant affect the protocol.

its YOU that is over dramatising peoples OPINIONS

how about instead of creating drama. you go research CODE.
and then stick to the debates about the protocol. avoid meandering topics into social dramas all the time. because it is not healthy for you

Did anyone ever believe Craig Wright is Satoshi? He is clearly a fucking fraud lmao, it's like he is not even trying, he had a simple way to prove his identity and he refused, after that it's game over.

haha, he was never fooled. it is just that for that period of time Craig Wright and his scammy ways were in accordance with Roger Ver's plans of abusing bitcoin and making money so he started supporting him but now those plans are no longer benefiting him so he is lashing out.

Until you use that "other" name for BCH he doesn't like.  Seems to be one of his buttons.

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I know, right?  His tinfoil hat must have some antennas built into it or something.  

Craig Wright is a world class piece of shit.  Very big stinky piece of shit.  I can't believe he wrote this to Roger Ver.  Roger, even if you don't like what he is doing with Bitcoin, is a very decent polite and reasonable person. 

Seriously? They've run out of steam promoting Craig and are hunting for another puppet Satoshi?


I have a better title ....
"Dark nights in a lonely cell"
Power hungry idiots like him who do everything to acquire influence end up badly.


The best lure to catch a franky1 pokemon: mention segwit,roger,LN in an a topic title. He will be there in minutes.

Maybe a next chapter could be "I have become too greedy", maybe with some apologies to his followers. Maybe...


If the buzz makes them buy his altcoin or at least hold it long enough, the apologies chapter will not come too early.
It'll be your fault that the soap opera is cut short

Both of these two should have little to do with bitcoin or any of its subsequent spawn coins. Neither of them have any interest in anything other than their own personal interests and it shows time and time again. I can't help but feel things would be much better if both of them just pissed off and never returned.

And the soap opera continues... This is just the type of drama news I like to read Especially with Roger Ver in. The Bitcoin Jesus is no more
But at the end, it just creates a buzz to distract the sheeps (like me  ). There are always people trying to create indivision, it doesn't mean you have to buy all the stories btw

(Poor Roger Ver...)

This makes me think of the saying, "Two dogs fights over the bone and third gets it"    It is funny how two people with massive egos are fighting it out to be the Alpha male.  

Craig Wright first fooled Gavin and now Roger Ver admit that he was fooled too.   The next people to admit that they were fooled, will be the "fanboys" of these two people. They are both snake oil salesmen and it is not difficult to be fooled by these people.  

Next drama please. People have sort of 'tolerated' their public bickering, specially Roger Ver self proclaimed "Bitcoin Jesus" title and the amount that these two who claimed to be Satoshi but just short of proving themselves. LOL. Well its time for them to move on their separates way and I'm sure that we will see another counter argument and it will drag along specially that Bitcoin Cash is no longer the 'original' coin they thought to be.