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legendary
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March 05, 2022, 05:37:50 AM
#34
It's the hight of word politics and those caught in this cross fire are the Russian Athletes, Billionaires and the Ukrainians themselves.  It feels so sad that this this happening but, I think the ban on Russian athletes is extreme.  They are crying with Ukrainians as the rest of the word too, owning a passport shouldn't sentence them as such.

Yes, it is a complicated issue, in which, as often happens, the just end up paying for the sinners. I understand on the one hand what the alliance is doing, which is trying not to have a direct military confrontation with Russia to avoid a nuclear war and the potentially disastrous consequences it could have, and on the other hand trying to take as many measures as possible to weaken Putin on two fronts. The first is that of war, with the shipment of weapons. The second is to try to undermine his popularity in Russia with actions like this, which I am not sure will succeed, because maybe people in Russia see these measures as unfair.

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March 05, 2022, 05:08:52 AM
#33
Sports and athletes should be more independent and not to fully controlled by the government, so its really a shame to those sporting events who already cancel the Russian players as if they have the options to stop the war, so we should not blame this to every Russian, we should blame this to their own government who controls them. ....
Agree, the government can be sanctioned but not the country or everyone who lives in a country.

Well, that is considered as the collateral damage for the Russian government's aggression on waging war.
I myself thinks a lot of sanctions are completely unnecessary, especially in the world of sports. But because people are too mad that Putin is showing no sign of stopping. This could be the only way to stop him.
The only thing that would stop him is his own people when they feel suffocated because of all the sanctions imposed to them.
Individual international businesses, athletes, and other Russian who have made business internationally will be 100% affected on the sanctions.
This might be a bit out topic but they are already even go into certain extent on blocking out facebook.
https://www.vox.com/recode/22962274/russia-block-facebook-restrict-twitter-putin-censorship-ukraine
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-rferl-bbc-facebook-google-twitter-blocked/31735597.html
It would really make things even go more far more worst that we do expect.
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March 05, 2022, 05:02:40 AM
#32
We all want peace. But the reality is different from what we want. But it is a shame if these sports bodies impose sanctions on players from Russia without seeing that this is not the fault of the players but the Russian government acting arbitrarily. We can only hope that they can do justice and understand the situation and hopefully, sports bodies can lift the sanctions to players or teams.

Given the unfavorable situation, it doesn't matter if many tournaments are temporarily canceled, especially if there are tournaments to be held in Russia or Ukraine. If the sports bodies could do something like this, the players and the sports teams would understand and maybe the sports bodies would organize it somewhere else far from the conflict.

Maybe it would be better because sport could bring everyone together in a better atmosphere.
legendary
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March 05, 2022, 04:49:13 AM
#31
I'll like us to get something straight here, "MOST RUSSIANS AREN'T IN SUPPORT OF THIS WAR". You can tell by the series of protest that has been done by Russian nations across Russia for Putin to put an end to this war. Although, its for these citizens that Putin fights but, there would have been no war should NATO not have opened its arms to welcome a nation that resides at Russians borders, which part of it is Russian speaking into a body for which the comprising nations are mostly allies with America. A nation Russia won't want getting close to its borders.

It's the hight of word politics and those caught in this cross fire are the Russian Athletes, Billionaires and the Ukrainians themselves.  It feels so sad that this this happening but, I think the ban on Russian athletes is extreme.  They are crying with Ukrainians as the rest of the word too, owning a passport shouldn't sentence them as such.
legendary
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March 05, 2022, 04:21:30 AM
#30
Sports is a vehicle for peace, unity and reconciliation. Sports can have that effect on the world. Sports regulatory bodies have always insisted that sports and polictics are distinct things and should not be mixed together. They now come out and do the opposite of what they have said. It's understandable that war is a unique situation.
So when these sports bodies direct their sanctions on Russia directly it is understandable but when they focus on the individuals who have little or no role to play in the policy decision of their government. These individuals are not politicians. They have no role for them to be collateral damage in this affair is unfair. Most of these players being ostracize for a crime they did not commit other than owning a passport.

Remember Lewis Hamilton had a difficult time pushing his campaign against racism and discrimination because they claim he had political coalition to it.  Players in the NBA were ostracize for taking the knee during the national anthem. Where was this kind of attention when Mesut Ozil protest against the persecution of Uighur Muslims. His own football Arsenal distanced themselves from the situation.  When  it comes to racism, sports regulatory bodies are strict not to involve in politics. If we go down that this path. I hope that going forward every "aggressor" will find himself where Russia is. I hope in the future sports bodies can remain consistent in the condemnation of things like discrimination, racism, and unprovoked aggression.

Sports can be used for many things. So far only one option has been explored! We want peace not war

You say that sports bodies are targeting individuals instead of organizations, that is a blatant lie. It is because Russian sports organizations are banned that Russian athletes cannot participate. The world has had enough of this mindless aggression, corruption and now invasion. It is unfortunate that the Russian people have to suffer for the actions of their leader, but the senile old man in charge has chosen a path of war and destruction - he wants to crush a free and democratic country just because he can. It does not help anyone and Russia was never in any danger from Ukraine, except showing that there is a better way to govern and live peacefully. It seems that Putin misunderstood how far the world is willing to go, he thought Ukraine would roll over quickly, but now he is pushing harder to murder Ukrainian civilians. I can understand the solidarity in sports and cutting off all cultural ties with this sick country.
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March 05, 2022, 04:15:59 AM
#29
Sports and music (I'll add another one Grin) are universal things, despite all the differences that humans have and they can make everyone join to participate.
But unfortunately, we also know that some of these people have various interests that make sports don't work as they should.
Now we face the war between Russia and Ukraine where Russia is trying to pressure Ukraine.
It caused a lot of differences and debates among the political elite until finally, some sports organizations decided to impose sanctions on Russia.
Everything has changed if there is an interest behind something such as sport and will also likely impact other things.
So as long as there are interests from the political elite trying to intervene, that will not change.
I strongly agree. Sports and music are two main things which are used to promote peace. Sports is a very powerful tool to promote tolerance, respect and understanding and brings people across boarder, culture and religion together at the same place. And the same goes for music. But most of the time political authorities have a different agent and they kill the spirit of sports and music for their own interest - leaving the world in distress for what is going to happen next.
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Rollbit
March 05, 2022, 03:24:54 AM
#28
Sports and athletes should be more independent and not to fully controlled by the government, so its really a shame to those sporting events who already cancel the Russian players as if they have the options to stop the war, so we should not blame this to every Russian, we should blame this to their own government who controls them. ....
Agree, the government can be sanctioned but not the country or everyone who lives in a country.

Well, that is considered as the collateral damage for the Russian government's aggression on waging war.
I myself thinks a lot of sanctions are completely unnecessary, especially in the world of sports. But because people are too mad that Putin is showing no sign of stopping. This could be the only way to stop him.
The only thing that would stop him is his own people when they feel suffocated because of all the sanctions imposed to them.
Individual international businesses, athletes, and other Russian who have made business internationally will be 100% affected on the sanctions.
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March 05, 2022, 03:20:13 AM
#27
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Sports can be used for many things. So far only one option has been explored! We want peace not war

I think the situation playing out in Russia and Ukraine are extreme cases. This is involving life and death and not just tussle or interference of government into football game or teams.
It is for the purpose of stopping Russia from killing innocent people. It is a unanimous decision for the good of humanity. So you don't have to interpret it in isolation from life, it war and it has to stop.
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March 05, 2022, 03:08:03 AM
#26
Sports and music (I'll add another one Grin) are universal things, despite all the differences that humans have and they can make everyone join to participate.
But unfortunately, we also know that some of these people have various interests that make sports don't work as they should.
Now we face the war between Russia and Ukraine where Russia is trying to pressure Ukraine.
It caused a lot of differences and debates among the political elite until finally, some sports organizations decided to impose sanctions on Russia.
Everything has changed if there is an interest behind something such as sport and will also likely impact other things.
So as long as there are interests from the political elite trying to intervene, that will not change.
legendary
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March 05, 2022, 02:54:30 AM
#25
So when these sports bodies direct their sanctions on Russia directly it is understandable but when they focus on the individuals who have little or no role to play in the policy decision of their government. These individuals are not politicians. They have no role for them to be collateral damage in this affair is unfair. Most of these players being ostracize for a crime they did not commit other than owning a passport.
There is nothing bad for FIFA and UEFA to sanction Russia too, Russian government has devastated lives in Ukraine, what has been done that is far worse than the sanction both the football organizations placed on Russian sportmen and women. It was not a surprise for me when I saw Russia has been banned from Paralympics and many more. What they are trying to do is to saction Russians in a way they will not be able to fund the war going on between Russia and Ukraine. Sanctions will inflict pain on individuals and not only the government.
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March 05, 2022, 02:24:29 AM
#24
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In my opinion, sports should be completely separated from politics and wars. Most athletes are apolitical. If they were involved in political games, they would have no time for sports. I don't think it's quite right to think of athletes as a sort of bridge between nations in political matters.
That is true but recent times have shown us that sports cannot be separated from politics. Sports and politics are intertwined. Sports bodies are not acting independently. Russia is threatening to go to court of arbitration for sport against FIFA, UEFA bans.
Russia to appeal international bans  to CAS
legendary
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March 05, 2022, 02:10:42 AM
#23
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In my opinion, sports should be completely separated from politics and wars. Most athletes are apolitical. If they were involved in political games, they would have no time for sports. I don't think it's quite right to think of athletes as a sort of bridge between nations in political matters.
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March 05, 2022, 02:01:13 AM
#22
I think sports can be used as a medium to broker peace between the two countries. The sports sanctions and ban on Russia athletes is creating more animosity. This is doing more harm than good in my opinion. There is no one side to war both sides suffer. I have been blessed to never experienced war. I cannot say I truly understand the dynamics of what is going on. My prayers are with the men who have to leave their families to go the war front, and the women and children who have to live in fear and agony.  
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March 05, 2022, 01:08:14 AM
#21
As it turned out, not only cryptocurrencies are involved in politics, the true value of which is decentralization, but also sports. Such harsh sanctions against Russian athletes have never been seen in the history of sports and many consider this decision unfair.

I feel very sorry for the Russian Paralympians, who obviously do not have the ability to influence political life in Russia.

I believe that politics always take over sports. If a country is at war or in conflict with another country, how can they keep the sports channel run in true spirit when they are in conflict at a government or political level. As we have seen in the past, politics comes first and the role of sports is secondary and that's what we have seen when fifa and other sporting bodies have announced to boycott russians.

This is very much true and we are facing this situation for the last 2 to 3 decades. Pakistan and India who are neighboring countries have political issues and due to this, no sports teams visit each other country to play the matches. Even, both countries do not have bilateral series between them on the home ground or in neutral grounds. This very much proves that politics comes first and not sports. This is really sad indeed.
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March 05, 2022, 12:20:51 AM
#20
Due to the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, FIFA and UEFA firmly stated that they would sanction Russian football teams and clubs from Russia. FIFA and UEFA made a decision that was deemed unfair, the Russian national team and Russian clubs were suspended from all football competitions.
Sanctions from FIFA and UEFA seem to have a political scent, because previously FIFA had never sentenced the Israeli national team and Israeli clubs as a result of the Israeli attack on Palestine. FIFA decision is considered unfair by many parties, if politics must be separated from football, Then why only the Russian national team was banned? even though previously the State of Israel had also attacked Palestine.
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betfury
March 04, 2022, 11:41:02 PM
#19
In my opinion, racism, discrimination and other aggressions should be abandoned, so far as a form that is not commendable and disturbing, I agree with you, man. The impact of this war is moreover its impact on sports which are sports, this is a place to watch as entertainment instead it falters with events like this. this involves the country, my hope will be normal outside of the impact of the pandemic I may not know the basics but I hope all is well because sports, whether nba football or whatever are in the public interest and I can't wait for the match to be held, quite disappointed with what happened
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March 04, 2022, 11:25:59 PM
#18
It is really sad that innocent people have to suffer for the decisions of their crazy leaders. But how do we punish Putin? Can anybody or any group go to Putin's palace and arrest him? It is impossible to do. The result is that the pressure is directed at the entire country. That means the entire Russian people will have to suffer because of the irresponsible decision of their leader. This is with the hope that by being the receiving end of all these sanctions, the people will rise together and pressure their leader to stop what he's doing. This is following the basic principle that the leader is only as powerful as the people's agreement. The moment the people disagree with what the leader is doing, the leader would be helpless. But if the people are silent, then the leader would only continue what he's doing.
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March 04, 2022, 11:17:17 PM
#17
It isn't odd really, most sports competitions have teams participate in them cause they represent a certain country/region. I'm not sure if it's right to call it politics even, but the teams do indeed get the wrong end of the stick with how things are going right now. Sports organizations had to make a stand to support Ukraine, so they basically have no choice but to sanction sports teams that represent Russia, and well, I doubt teams are able to play with just them, being there, as their own team and not as a representative (afaik anw).  
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March 04, 2022, 11:14:35 PM
#16
As it turned out, not only cryptocurrencies are involved in politics, the true value of which is decentralization, but also sports. Such harsh sanctions against Russian athletes have never been seen in the history of sports and many consider this decision unfair.

I feel very sorry for the Russian Paralympians, who obviously do not have the ability to influence political life in Russia.

I believe that politics always take over sports. If a country is at war or in conflict with another country, how can they keep the sports channel run in true spirit when they are in conflict at a government or political level. As we have seen in the past, politics comes first and the role of sports is secondary and that's what we have seen when fifa and other sporting bodies have announced to boycott russians.
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March 04, 2022, 07:39:55 PM
#15
There’s a good reason why sports exist, unfortunately it is being used in politics and honestly, there are so much politics on most of the sports especially in my country where athletes are being treated no fairly. Sports is a place where every country can showcase their talents, this is an event where you can find unity and peace, its just that many still want to take advantage of this.


Their was a huge connection between the sports and the politics.When the politics of certain country had poured the country people,the politicians starts to promote the sports to deviate the people minds to avoid of their vote bank politics.Mainly the under developing and developing country doing of this promotion of politics,which include the promotion of the football by the African and Asian countries over 3-4 decades.
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