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Quote from: goodboyshams on June 28, 2023, 02:28:48 AM

Hello

I have a HUGE PROBLEM with Rollbit and I hope someone can help me here.

I made 11 pre-game bets for a total of $10,200 risk at 2.0 and 2.1 odds. This was on the team ThunderTalk Gaming +1.5 vs Team WE in League of Legends LPL. These were all taken before the match started.

After the bets won, they were all cancelled by Rollbit and I did not receive my winnings. They did not pay me my $10k+ winnings.

The support said the odds were wrong and odds provider voided the bets.

This is a lie because I also took the same team match on Pinnacle for 2.03 and 2.12 and one other site for 2.05. So it is clear the odds were correct. I forwarded them screen shots and it is easy to see other books have similar lines.

I am already down over $20k on Rollbit so I have given them good action including casino.

This actions by Rollbit trying to scam me out of $10k+ is unprofessional and should be illegal.

I hope someone in forums can help me solve this issue because support has not helped me.

I will attach photos in next post if I can.

Hey there,

Thanks for posting your issue here.

I double checked this one with our sportsbook provider and they confirmed they made the correct decision.

Their decision falls in line with how they would generally deal with incorrect pricing, nothing unexpected.

No balance was lost as a result of this.

Thanks,
Razer

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Quote from: Slow death on June 30, 2023, 05:26:42 PM

[...]

i saw your accusation in the scam section, so i went to see your post history and i noticed that you also made a post in their thread, which in a way was good, [...]

Only that goodboyshams has not raised any accusation on the scam section, which is why I continued to address their issue here and risking to derail the thread instead of asking them to keep the topic contained on their accusation thread.

Rollbit Razer was online today and managed to tackle an issue on the scam section. goodboyshams, Razer might mistook my message and thought I was referring to that thread instead of this one. I'll inform him once more

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 30, 2023, 01:21:00 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 30, 2023, 12:04:23 PM

Quote from: worle1bm on June 30, 2023, 02:21:57 AM

As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

Brings me to the much talked about terms and conditions, how many people actually read that being actually clicking the submit button for the form they already filled?

Though some major issues do arise due to users not reading the terms of the casino before signing up, but then, there are some other issues that are totally outside the casinos terms and conditions, so this is to say that, even if a user reads the terms, it still might not stop the user from having issues sometimes.

And now that ball down to one thing, are those not reading the terms not the same to pronounced the casino as unjust when their run into problem because most of the cases are not substantial enough to form a formidable case against the casino except for the few other that are accompanied by evidence to show that that casino actually blocked or subject to the player to undue principles that are outside their term and conditions.

So it is very important to read the casino terms of service before making your first deposit into the casino, to be able to abide by and avoid troubles along the way up.

When problem show up some people immediately read the TOS which is bad action to do. They should read this while starting to register on their casino to avoid any issue and now this problem occur I think if I'm not wrong the accuser might be lose in this case since he violate the rules of the casino. But either way let see if there's settlement of the issue in good faith so that both parties can solve the issue and move on.

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Quote from: goodboyshams on June 30, 2023, 01:01:47 PM

Quote from: holydarkness on June 30, 2023, 11:17:27 AM

Quote from: worle1bm on June 30, 2023, 02:21:57 AM

As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

I've did that, PM Razer about it. He'll address it once he's available

Quote from: FatFork on June 30, 2023, 02:42:39 AM

Quote from: goodboyshams on June 29, 2023, 05:27:20 PM

You cannot void the bets after the winner is determined. If you want to void the bets, it needs to be done instantly. These were done after the game was finished.
You can void the bets if the line was an error. This was not an error line.

Well, I don't wanna dig too deep into your case because I don't have all the info. But something tells me there might have been some fishy stuff going on with that betting line, because your betting pattern raises some suspicions. You even said it yourself, "I made 11 pre-game bets..." on that same line, and even more on other platforms. You can't convince me that's just regular everyday betting. Just sayin'! Rollbit casino has the right to cancel or void bets if there's an issue with the betting line. But let's just wait and see what Rollbit Razer has to say about this.

I am thinking the same, that the case need more context. Evidences given by goodboyshams is quite incomplete to conclude what actually happened, it'll be best to wait for either side to add more context and then determine from it if we could close it or move it to a new thread on scam accusation board to avoid derailing this ann.

Why is my betting suspicious? This is how i bet. Here is all my previous bets on rollbit and you can see this is how i always bet. they limit your max bet to a certain amount and then let you bet it again in minutes

https://ibb.co/cyd5b44
https://ibb.co/cTBm6FZ
https://ibb.co/2jkw40s
https://ibb.co/rGLXy92
https://ibb.co/Ld9wSxX
https://ibb.co/XpJmCMZ
https://ibb.co/ZxKb147
https://ibb.co/cyTxXLv
https://ibb.co/x59vhvG
https://ibb.co/RDrYHyJ

they never voided previous bets and you can see i am down overall.

still no reply from Razer

i saw your accusation in the scam section, so i went to see your post history and i noticed that you also made a post in their thread, which in a way was good, from what i can see in the pictures, you have been placing a lot of bets on the same game, that What you are doing is considered cheating in some casinos and they don't tolerate that kind of thing and ban the person. because that's what you're doing many people use this strategy to get around the limit placed by the casino on each bet

that's why in my opinion you will hardly win this case, although I didn't read their TOS about the betting rules, but I've seen cases where even not being in the casino's TOS, the casinos banned people who did what you did , the argument of the casinos was always the same, that this is a behavior that the casino could not tolerate, in short, I hope that I am wrong and that you manage to solve your problem, but I advise you not to do this in other casinos because you will be banned if do that way of betting

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Quote from: goodboyshams on June 30, 2023, 01:01:47 PM

[...]

still no reply from Razer

Because Razer is yet to be online since the last time I send him a PM, thus it's very likely that he haven't read my message informing him about this situation yet. He'll be online from time to time. Just wait for him to get back online.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 30, 2023, 12:04:23 PM

Quote from: worle1bm on June 30, 2023, 02:21:57 AM

As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

Brings me to the much talked about terms and conditions, how many people actually read that being actually clicking the submit button for the form they already filled?

Though some major issues do arise due to users not reading the terms of the casino before signing up, but then, there are some other issues that are totally outside the casinos terms and conditions, so this is to say that, even if a user reads the terms, it still might not stop the user from having issues sometimes.

And now that ball down to one thing, are those not reading the terms not the same to pronounced the casino as unjust when their run into problem because most of the cases are not substantial enough to form a formidable case against the casino except for the few other that are accompanied by evidence to show that that casino actually blocked or subject to the player to undue principles that are outside their term and conditions.

So it is very important to read the casino terms of service before making your first deposit into the casino, to be able to abide by and avoid troubles along the way up.

goodboyshams

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Quote from: holydarkness on June 30, 2023, 11:17:27 AM

Quote from: worle1bm on June 30, 2023, 02:21:57 AM

As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

I've did that, PM Razer about it. He'll address it once he's available

Quote from: FatFork on June 30, 2023, 02:42:39 AM

Quote from: goodboyshams on June 29, 2023, 05:27:20 PM

You cannot void the bets after the winner is determined. If you want to void the bets, it needs to be done instantly. These were done after the game was finished.
You can void the bets if the line was an error. This was not an error line.

Well, I don't wanna dig too deep into your case because I don't have all the info. But something tells me there might have been some fishy stuff going on with that betting line, because your betting pattern raises some suspicions. You even said it yourself, "I made 11 pre-game bets..." on that same line, and even more on other platforms. You can't convince me that's just regular everyday betting. Just sayin'! Rollbit casino has the right to cancel or void bets if there's an issue with the betting line. But let's just wait and see what Rollbit Razer has to say about this.

I am thinking the same, that the case need more context. Evidences given by goodboyshams is quite incomplete to conclude what actually happened, it'll be best to wait for either side to add more context and then determine from it if we could close it or move it to a new thread on scam accusation board to avoid derailing this ann.

Why is my betting suspicious? This is how i bet. Here is all my previous bets on rollbit and you can see this is how i always bet. they limit your max bet to a certain amount and then let you bet it again in minutes

https://ibb.co/cyd5b44
https://ibb.co/cTBm6FZ
https://ibb.co/2jkw40s
https://ibb.co/rGLXy92
https://ibb.co/Ld9wSxX
https://ibb.co/XpJmCMZ
https://ibb.co/ZxKb147
https://ibb.co/cyTxXLv
https://ibb.co/x59vhvG
https://ibb.co/RDrYHyJ

they never voided previous bets and you can see i am down overall.

still no reply from Razer

Fivestar4everMVP

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Quote from: worle1bm on June 30, 2023, 02:21:57 AM

As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

Brings me to the much talked about terms and conditions, how many people actually read that being actually clicking the submit button for the form they already filled?

Though some major issues do arise due to users not reading the terms of the casino before signing up, but then, there are some other issues that are totally outside the casinos terms and conditions, so this is to say that, even if a user reads the terms, it still might not stop the user from having issues sometimes.

FanEagle

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I agree that "unwanted" things could happen, but that doesn't suddenly put the whole blame on rollbit neither. We should remember that there are moments when you can't find someone to blame, things just happen. I know that it looks like rollbit should have paid him, but if the odd provider voided the bet, that means how could we blame rollbit? Obviously the gambler should contact whoever they can and try to find a way to get their money back, it would be smart to do that because if you just let it be then you will get pushed around a lot more in life.

However, just because they could chase the winnings, doesn't mean that they will get it, odd provider could just simply reject to pay and there is nothing we can do about it at all.

holydarkness

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Quote from: worle1bm on June 30, 2023, 02:21:57 AM

As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

I've did that, PM Razer about it. He'll address it once he's available

Quote from: FatFork on June 30, 2023, 02:42:39 AM

Quote from: goodboyshams on June 29, 2023, 05:27:20 PM

You cannot void the bets after the winner is determined. If you want to void the bets, it needs to be done instantly. These were done after the game was finished.
You can void the bets if the line was an error. This was not an error line.

Well, I don't wanna dig too deep into your case because I don't have all the info. But something tells me there might have been some fishy stuff going on with that betting line, because your betting pattern raises some suspicions. You even said it yourself, "I made 11 pre-game bets..." on that same line, and even more on other platforms. You can't convince me that's just regular everyday betting. Just sayin'! Rollbit casino has the right to cancel or void bets if there's an issue with the betting line. But let's just wait and see what Rollbit Razer has to say about this.

I am thinking the same, that the case need more context. Evidences given by goodboyshams is quite incomplete to conclude what actually happened, it'll be best to wait for either side to add more context and then determine from it if we could close it or move it to a new thread on scam accusation board to avoid derailing this ann.

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Quote from: goodboyshams on June 29, 2023, 05:27:20 PM

You cannot void the bets after the winner is determined. If you want to void the bets, it needs to be done instantly. These were done after the game was finished.
You can void the bets if the line was an error. This was not an error line.

Well, I don't wanna dig too deep into your case because I don't have all the info. But something tells me there might have been some fishy stuff going on with that betting line, because your betting pattern raises some suspicions. You even said it yourself, "I made 11 pre-game bets..." on that same line, and even more on other platforms. You can't convince me that's just regular everyday betting. Just sayin'! Rollbit casino has the right to cancel or void bets if there's an issue with the betting line. But let's just wait and see what Rollbit Razer has to say about this.

worle1bm

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As @holydarkness have already said he will make the team aware about it by sending them a PM so wait for it to hear from them to clear the matter but you should also be careful while signing up before you agree to the terms which might create a problem for you later.As explained above in their terms so you can't put a blame on them directly for your loss.

LUCKMCFLY

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Quote from: slapper on June 16, 2023, 02:46:06 PM

Quote from: carlfebz2 on June 15, 2023, 03:59:23 PM

Quote from: FanEagle on June 15, 2023, 01:10:23 PM

Quote from: ultrloa on June 14, 2023, 06:06:58 AM

Some of those accusation created just to confuse people who play at Rollbit but they didn't succeed since this casino still standing strong and they maintain their reputation in this community. They not only known for that remarks but also there service provided to their players and so far we can see legitimate forum users still saying some good words about them. That is a good sign that Rollbit still doing great despite of many competition exist around.

I am pretty sure it's going to end up being annoying for a while but they are going to stop eventually. Nobody could do this forever, or at least nobody should do this forever, makes no sense to keep on complaining and being annoying at a forum topic, people have better things to do, even these people do.

I remember clearly there was a guy who was against every casino and claimed he could sue them all, he annoyed everyone for years, then he got banned and now he is nowhere to be found. This is the same thing, we are not going to see these people here all the time, it's a phase and for a while they will be here but then slowly they will phase out and they will not be able to actually do anything that would hurt us or annoy us or trying to ruin reputation of solid casinos.

On online world, then we cant really be able to avoid such trolls on which neither they are really just having that personal intention on destroying some sites reputation or they had just been paid up or simply
this is some puppets of those competitors around, no one really knows! This is why its not really not having any sense on putting up some attention with these fellas.

As long there's no strong proof about issues been thrown or raised up then it would really be just simply be ignored but on the time that there's really that some sort of solid proofs then this is something
that would be needing to be clarified. As for Rollbit or any other casinos out there on which there are really these trolls who do keep on throwing issues but having none proofs
which it is really just that right on ignoring them and its true that they cant really do this forever. Cheesy

Your encounter with that person shows a key online issue: persistent trolls causing chaos. They are usually loud in their views, making baseless claims, like against casinos. Their fervor is short-lived, though. Considering why they do this is important. Some may believe in their cause, others aim to harm a site's reputation for personal benefit, or to boost competition. It's smart to disregard claims without strong evidence. Engaging with such claims only strengthens the trolls and gives their claims validity. We must avoid this.

It is difficult to correct this type of thing , because there will always be many trolls, who are everywhere, they are generally people who are infatuated or envious and have all kinds of remorse against the site and Since they have not been Able to do anything , they What remains is to be trolls in the official threads, in the casino, within the chats, but we as players, as people who know that there are these types of people who are Malicious, well they are not given importance, as they say out there, We must not Feed the troll or trolls , so in this regard we should not Pay attention to them.

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Quote from: FatFork on June 29, 2023, 06:55:09 AM

Quote from: goodboyshams on June 28, 2023, 02:34:54 AM

I'm simply pointing out what is outlined in their Sports Betting Policy:

Quote from: https://rollbit.com/sports-policy

3.3. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to refuse, restrict, cancel or limit any bet.

While it may not seem fair, but you can't claim it's illegal, nor can it be considered a scam. Anyone who joins the platform and chooses to place bets must agree to their terms of use.

Regarding their explanation that the odds provider voided the bets, you can't really know if that's true or not. Different gambling platforms often work with different odds providers. So just because you placed the same bet on another platform doesn't necessarily mean their claim about the odds provider voiding the bets is false.

You cannot void the bets after the winner is determined. If you want to void the bets, it needs to be done instantly. These were done after the game was finished.

You can void the bets if the line was an error. This was not an error line.

I asked for an explanation and was not given one. I asked for the correct line and was ignored.

Just because this terms is in their policy does not mean they can use it to abuse it against customers in their favor.

I do not want to be fighting for collecting winnings on my bet. This is ridiculous that i have to come here and defend my case. I wish i can just get paid on my winning bets because I know if it lost, i would be down $10,000.

goodboyshams

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 29, 2023, 02:37:01 AM

Quote from: goodboyshams on June 28, 2023, 02:34:54 AM

Bets

https://ibb.co/61Pj82H
https://ibb.co/4T88jRN
https://ibb.co/7rMZWC9

Pinnacle bets

https://ibb.co/0nggGsW

If your story is true, then it's really uncalled for, And I agree with you that it is really unprofessional of rollbit to act in such manner, from the kind of reputation they've built in the gambling community, one would assume they should be way above such petty things as trying to scam users off their winnings, but then, let's not conclude yet and allow them to respond to the matter, might probably be a glitch in their system or something similar, what ever be the reason, I hope it's resolved amicably without any party feeling cheated on.

Yes i have deposited large sums because of the "good reputation" of this book. I hope @rollbit razer can answer here or DM me as I have not heard anything yet.

I am not sure how I can be lying here. I posted the screenshots of the bets. they were taken before the game started and over a 30 minute span. I also showed Pinnacle lines which are the same lines, also taken before the game (pinnacle doesn't have such high live limits).

What defense can Rollbit have here?

This is not a small amount of money and should be taken seriously by the community. If I can be affected, so can anyone else. They should be held responsible and handled with more urgency.

MegaAkker

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Rollbit confiscated my balance of $410 out of the blue yesterday.

See here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62480562

Be careful with Rollbit, they can and will confiscate any amount you have on your balance. They can call everything simply "sportsbook abuse" and will not go into further details.
I strongly advice to not bet in the future with Rollbit and choose other sportsbooks instead!

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 29, 2023, 02:37:01 AM

If your story is true, then it's really uncalled for, And I agree with you that it is really unprofessional of rollbit to act in such manner, from the kind of reputation they've built in the gambling community, one would assume they should be way above such petty things as trying to scam users off their winnings, but then, let's not conclude yet and allow them to respond to the matter, might probably be a glitch in their system or something similar, what ever be the reason, I hope it's resolved amicably without any party feeling cheated on.

Well, we have heard so many similar cases against this casino and all have to do with the interpretation of their terms and conditions not sure if it is because Rollbits have complicated terms of service or the players are simply misinterpreting it.

But for the sake of clarity, the team should have made a public explanation as to some complicated and misinterpreted terms in their service to avoid all these constant accusations.

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Quote from: goodboyshams on June 28, 2023, 02:34:54 AM

I'm simply pointing out what is outlined in their Sports Betting Policy:

Quote from: https://rollbit.com/sports-policy

3.3. Sportsbook platform reserves the right to refuse, restrict, cancel or limit any bet.

While it may not seem fair, but you can't claim it's illegal, nor can it be considered a scam. Anyone who joins the platform and chooses to place bets must agree to their terms of use.

Regarding their explanation that the odds provider voided the bets, you can't really know if that's true or not. Different gambling platforms often work with different odds providers. So just because you placed the same bet on another platform doesn't necessarily mean their claim about the odds provider voiding the bets is false.

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Quote from: goodboyshams on June 28, 2023, 02:34:54 AM

Bets

https://ibb.co/61Pj82H
https://ibb.co/4T88jRN
https://ibb.co/7rMZWC9

Pinnacle bets

https://ibb.co/0nggGsW

If your story is true, then it's really uncalled for, And I agree with you that it is really unprofessional of rollbit to act in such manner, from the kind of reputation they've built in the gambling community, one would assume they should be way above such petty things as trying to scam users off their winnings, but then, let's not conclude yet and allow them to respond to the matter, might probably be a glitch in their system or something similar, what ever be the reason, I hope it's resolved amicably without any party feeling cheated on.

holydarkness

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Quote from: BlackBoss_ on June 28, 2023, 08:07:12 PM

Quote from: goodboyshams on June 28, 2023, 06:58:33 PM

i tried to PM but it didnt work because his inbox doesnt accept DM from new people

It is normal practice as newbies send many spam PMs or scam incentivized PMs.

[...]

I'm taking one step ahead, PMing Razer right now not notify him. He's quite fast in responding some situation on the previous ones.

goodboyshams, please wait a little, Razer will take a look into your case once he's online and saw my PM

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