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Having to pay a fee in order to make a scam accusation is probably not the right way forward but I agree with you when you say something needs to be done. In the end, if we disagree with a particular scam accusation there is nothing stopping us from using the ignore button and though very basic it might be the best way to take action. If they buy accounts to continue the charade there is not much can be done I suppose.

Adding financial costs to make scam allegations could empower groups and gangs that are financially capable of fulfilling payments in order to target a particular casino by virtue of them being competitors. I would probably be against this type of step but maybe forum consensus would point in other direction if votes were cast.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 11, 2022, 06:23:35 PM

It's very old. There should be consequences for false accusations. Maybe we need some sort of fee to post a scam accusation? That may deter some, but wouldn't completely stop the morons. We could also ignore newbies but then they'd just find a cheap account for sale or some legit complaints would get overlooked. We need something though.

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Quote from: JollyGood on September 11, 2022, 06:20:02 PM

I have seen this type of complaint in the forum several times over the years and most recently it was used against Duelbits. It transpired in that case the OP hid important facts but later admitted trying to scam Duelbits for which he was rightfully never paid.

On many occasions accusations against genuine casinos and gaming websites are made with the specific intent and hope of having forum members jump onboard to keep pushing the scam agenda until or unless they are countered and proved false by the accused. It is getting somewhat tiresome watching these dramas unfold from time to time.

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Quote from: logfiles on September 03, 2022, 06:27:12 AM

OP when making a scam accusation, you might want to come off clean and tell the whole story rather than hide some details. Now, how are we supposed to believe you and advise you accordingly when Blockchain evidence is telling a different story.
I am now more than certain you know what you did. Perhaps breached their terms of service.

These guys deliberately hide details when making accusations. Their goal is to present as story that makes them look like they have been defrauded and get community support that pressures casinos to pay them. When the casino or users find holes in their story or present proof to the contrary, they stop responding.

It's quite pathetic honestly and I doubt that it is ever going to work.

It's very old. There should be consequences for false accusations. Maybe we need some sort of fee to post a scam accusation? That may deter some, but wouldn't completely stop the morons. We could also ignore newbies but then they'd just find a cheap account for sale or some legit complaints would get overlooked. We need something though.

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I have seen this type of complaint in the forum several times over the years and most recently it was used against Duelbits. It transpired in that case the OP hid important facts but later admitted trying to scam Duelbits for which he was rightfully never paid.

On many occasions accusations against genuine casinos and gaming websites are made with the specific intent and hope of having forum members jump onboard to keep pushing the scam agenda until or unless they are countered and proved false by the accused. It is getting somewhat tiresome watching these dramas unfold from time to time.

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Quote from: logfiles on September 03, 2022, 06:27:12 AM

OP when making a scam accusation, you might want to come off clean and tell the whole story rather than hide some details. Now, how are we supposed to believe you and advise you accordingly when Blockchain evidence is telling a different story.
I am now more than certain you know what you did. Perhaps breached their terms of service.

These guys deliberately hide details when making accusations. Their goal is to present as story that makes them look like they have been defrauded and get community support that pressures casinos to pay them. When the casino or users find holes in their story or present proof to the contrary, they stop responding.

It's quite pathetic honestly and I doubt that it is ever going to work.

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Quote from: Scripture on September 05, 2022, 09:49:40 AM

A lesson learned not to mess with the good site because they are very secured and they can really track your activities especially if its out in a blockchain network.

So it's okay to do the same thing on other not good casino websites then? Doesn't make sense at all.

You should say not to do unnecessary and scamming behaviour to any platform if you don't want to risk your deposited funds there since OP is trying to request to give the funds back which is supposedly used to cheat the casino.

OP should lock this thread and don't push on his accusations because the community will not condone this kind of behavior so far your account is clean but if you insist and do not correct your mistake then you're likely to get tagged for your action, you cheat the casino then you file an accusation, then you want to get your deposit, its good that you are caught, even if you don't like it, you have no choice but to admit that Rollbit did not scam you.

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Quote from: Scripture on September 05, 2022, 09:49:40 AM

A lesson learned not to mess with the good site because they are very secured and they can really track your activities especially if its out in a blockchain network.

So it's okay to do the same thing on other not good casino websites then? Doesn't make sense at all.

You should say not to do unnecessary and scamming behaviour to any platform if you don't want to risk your deposited funds there since OP is trying to request to give the funds back which is supposedly used to cheat the casino.

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Quote from: basedin2 on September 03, 2022, 09:28:18 AM

you are right, creating a multi-account does not bring any profit, I would like to just return my deposit, I did not receive any profit at this casino

Creating multiple account probably to abuse the referral system and the bonuses, this is the result of being greedy and you came to the wrong site because Rollbit is very strict with that, and with this baseless accusation, I don't think you can still get your money back. A lesson learned not to mess with the good site because they are very secured and they can really track your activities especially if its out in a blockchain network. I don't think Rollbit will have a word here, because this is not a valid accusation and OP might want to close this thread because it turns out that, this is his own fault.

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Quote from: basedin2 on September 03, 2022, 09:28:18 AM

you are right, creating a multi-account does not bring any profit, I would like to just return my deposit, I did not receive any profit at this casino

I don't support that you get your deposit it will set a bad precedent, people will try to do what you have done, and try to hostage the casino into giving in, its different if you try to cheat or made an honest mistake, your earnings and deposit are forfeited it's your payment for trying to cheat Rollbit, the other accusation was fixed, in the complainant's favor, but in your case, you don't deserve to get your money.

Exactly, the scammer doesn’t have the rights to get his money back since it was used to potentially harm the casino in case he succeeded. There’s no guarantee that he will not repeat what he done on Rollbit to different casino. The user only has the right to received his money if he didn’t commit any violation against the casino terms but since he planned to commit crime then it’s only normal that this bas money get confiscated.

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Quote from: basedin2 on September 03, 2022, 09:28:18 AM

you are right, creating a multi-account does not bring any profit, I would like to just return my deposit, I did not receive any profit at this casino

I don't support that you get your deposit it will set a bad precedent, people will try to do what you have done, and try to hostage the casino into giving in, its different if you try to cheat or made an honest mistake, your earnings and deposit are forfeited it's your payment for trying to cheat Rollbit, the other accusation was fixed, in the complainant's favor, but in your case, you don't deserve to get your money.

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Quote from: basedin2 on September 03, 2022, 09:28:18 AM

you are right, creating a multi-account does not bring any profit, I would like to just return my deposit, I did not receive any profit at this casino

I don't see why you should be believed. I am not an expert on this platform, but there is certainly an advantage in managing multiple accounts.

in the end you do not create a series of multi accounts "just because you like it and you make a mistake" but just because you can have a clear advantage (in terms of bonuses or other options offered by the casino).

Among other things, even here as in other platforms it will be a practice explicitly prohibited by their ToS!

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Let me get this straight.

You tried to cheat the system and you failed. You then accused the casino of scamming you and stealing your money. After it was proven that you lied and tried to cheat, you say you didn't make any profit (while trying to cheat), so now you want your deposits back. Deposits which could be used to try and cheat again on this or a different platform.

It's like trying to rob a bank but failing to do so and getting yourself arrested instead. But because the bank wasn't robbed and no one got injured, you want the police to set you free and return your fully automatic assault rifle because no profit was gained from your actions.

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Quote from: basedin2 on September 03, 2022, 09:28:18 AM

you are right, creating a multi-account does not bring any profit, I would like to just return my deposit, I did not receive any profit at this casino

Now you seemed acting like a good man then why you had other thinking in mind. Just to take an opportunity? You tried to cheat a casino, then you complained in the forum knowing some users (I am one of them unfortunately, guilty) will say that you should get back your deposit. It's a win win game for you. To be honest I would not say anything else if rollbit decides to take your money. People like you should learn some lessons.

See people like you abuse opportunities and make things difficult for genuine users. Next time may be we will have a genuine victim but because of group of people like you we will not trust their accusation.

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Quote from: bitbollo on September 03, 2022, 06:38:12 AM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 03, 2022, 06:32:30 AM

Quote from: logfiles on September 03, 2022, 06:27:12 AM

OP when making a scam accusation, you might want to come off clean and tell the whole story rather than hide some details. Now, how are we supposed to believe you and advise you accordingly when Blockchain evidence is telling a different story.
I am now more than certain you know what you did. Perhaps breached their terms of service.

These guys deliberately hide details when making accusations. Their goal is to present as story that makes them look like they have been defrauded and get community support that pressures casinos to pay them. When the casino or users find holes in their story or present proof to the contrary, they stop responding.

It's quite pathetic honestly and I doubt that it is ever going to work.

the most "fascinating" part of the blockchain is that you cannot cheat the data, you cannot falsify what happened in the past.
In this case OP has openly shown "a false declaration" in this version of scam accusation hoping that no one would notice ...
probably this "trick" had also been done with other "linked" accounts.... what is the real advantage of that strategy? there are some bonus that you can claim from the same account? I am not able to see any plausible reason to create multi account ...

however it would also be interesting to know the Rollbit version and understand why they decided to block the initial deposit.

you are right, creating a multi-account does not bring any profit, I would like to just return my deposit, I did not receive any profit at this casino

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 03, 2022, 06:32:30 AM

Quote from: logfiles on September 03, 2022, 06:27:12 AM

OP when making a scam accusation, you might want to come off clean and tell the whole story rather than hide some details. Now, how are we supposed to believe you and advise you accordingly when Blockchain evidence is telling a different story.
I am now more than certain you know what you did. Perhaps breached their terms of service.

These guys deliberately hide details when making accusations. Their goal is to present as story that makes them look like they have been defrauded and get community support that pressures casinos to pay them. When the casino or users find holes in their story or present proof to the contrary, they stop responding.

It's quite pathetic honestly and I doubt that it is ever going to work.

the most "fascinating" part of the blockchain is that you cannot cheat the data, you cannot falsify what happened in the past.
In this case OP has openly shown "a false declaration" in this version of scam accusation hoping that no one would notice ...
probably this "trick" had also been done with other "linked" accounts.... what is the real advantage of that strategy? there are some bonus that you can claim from the same account? I am not able to see any plausible reason to create multi account ...

however it would also be interesting to know the Rollbit version and understand why they decided to block the initial deposit.

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Quote from: logfiles on September 03, 2022, 06:27:12 AM

OP when making a scam accusation, you might want to come off clean and tell the whole story rather than hide some details. Now, how are we supposed to believe you and advise you accordingly when Blockchain evidence is telling a different story.
I am now more than certain you know what you did. Perhaps breached their terms of service.

These guys deliberately hide details when making accusations. Their goal is to present as story that makes them look like they have been defrauded and get community support that pressures casinos to pay them. When the casino or users find holes in their story or present proof to the contrary, they stop responding.

It's quite pathetic honestly and I doubt that it is ever going to work.

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OP when making a scam accusation, you might want to come off clean and tell the whole story rather than hide some details. Now, how are we supposed to believe you and advise you accordingly when Blockchain evidence is telling a different story.
I am now more than certain you know what you did. Perhaps breached their terms of service.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 02, 2022, 05:18:16 PM

Quote from: FatFork on September 02, 2022, 03:49:50 PM

Spot on. This should be the end.
But my question is since rollbit knew it from the beginning (from the response with OP it was giving a hint) then they should have stop him and refund his deposits. I would still like to hear from rollbit and ask them to refund OPs deposit and close the case.

I agree. I am not trying to represent the casino in this case, nor do I claim to know the reasons for his account getting banned, as I can only speculate on that. I just wanted to point out that the OP is not being honest with the whole story and clearly has something to hide. If I could see these transactions, so could the casino staff, presumably, much more quickly and easily.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 02, 2022, 05:18:16 PM

Does rollbit has a representative here is the forum?

As far as I know, they have two accounts here: Rollbitcom and Rollbit Razer. Although not overly active, but Rollbit Razer has responded to similar situations in the past. @Hhampuz might give them a nudge if he thinks this is something worth their attention.

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May I know what you have done, quoting and not answering? Sometimes people get messed up with quotes and leave the comment inside the quote, but I don't see that you have answered anything to defend yourself.

Although it seems clear that you are just another case of someone who wants to appear as an innocent victim when in reality you have little innocence.

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How come you copy/paste all the chat log details while you don’t save any screenshot of it as proof that it was really occurred? A written conversation is not accepted evidence here and also the content of the Rollbit representative reply is vague af. There’s no way a representative can conclude that you are fraud right after they verify your KYC. They have a liability to send the balance to the customer especially you didn’t made any successful bet in the casino. This story is shady to me without the proof except this chat logs text.

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Quote from: FatFork on September 02, 2022, 03:49:50 PM

I guess now is the time for the: "It wasn't me, it was my brother / sister / father / mother / cousin / roommate / lover / neighbor / mentor ... (pick one)" story.

Whaoo!!! What a nice break down from research. You really know them in the forum. From what you analysis here that I see. I am very much impressed, satisfied and okay. You are an experience person in the forum. When I meet people like you I respect them. Now that you have given him the break of the transactions he did, he will finally deny it that it was not him, someone used his account to place bet and the person deposited funds to his address and funded back the rollbit address. These are stories of the sky.

I also support BitcoinGirl.Club opinion. But we have to hear from their part of the story before judgement will be given. We advise them always, when you are gambling, read the terms and conditions before playing any game so you will not be a victim of any issue but their want play smart game because it is a gamble and you want over gamble. I even saw on accusation on Roobet.com. And these are reputable casino threads and sites.

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Quote from: FatFork on September 02, 2022, 03:49:50 PM

Well, it looks like the blockchain doesn't agree with you.

According to your transaction, this is your ETH address: 0x6d43df23405323f7f70d598bb25f20762fd78a4f
And this is the address where all deposits go, so it must be a Rollbit hot wallet: 0xCBD6832Ebc203e49E2B771897067fce3c58575ac / Let's call it [rollbit] from now on.

Two days ago you funded your address with this transaction:

(Aug-31-2022 08:00:41 PM +UTC) 0.19117023 Ether from: 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 ---> 0x6d43df23405323f7f70d598bb25f20762fd78a4f [tx]

And just a few minutes before that:

(Aug-31-2022 07:57:36 PM +UTC) 0.191727 Ether from: [rollbit] ---> 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 [tx]

(Aug-31-2022 07:49:34 PM +UTC) 0.11958228 Ether from: 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 ---> 0x1591655c39bD982426168dfcef81b0E30242B40D [tx] ---> [rollbit]
(Aug-30-2022 06:57:54 PM +UTC) 0.13105942 Ether 0xEFa0c97AbEc7cCa7038B047225f74ABe3f0da866 ---> 0x1591655c39bD982426168dfcef81b0E30242B40D [tx] ---> [rollbit]

As you can see, your story does not hold up. The blockchain clearly shows that you deposited to Rollbit from one address, gambled a bit, withdrew funds, transferred to a new address, and then deposited to Rollbit again. And this is just a short sample of transactions from the last few days.

I guess now is the time for the: "It wasn't me, it was my brother / sister / father / mother / cousin / roommate / lover / neighbor / mentor ... (pick one)" story.

Spot on. This should be the end.
But my question is since rollbit knew it from the beginning (from the response with OP it was giving a hint) then they should have stop him and refund his deposits. I would still like to hear from rollbit and ask them to refund OPs deposit and close the case.

Does rollbit has a representative here is the forum?

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