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Quote from: serjent05 on July 20, 2022, 06:15:27 PM

We always thought whenever there are changes in the market that whales are dictating them. But imagine how big is the capitalization for each market. I doubt whales can have such a huge effect in today's Bitcoin and Eth market. We should know that market volatility is dictated by the supply and demand in the market. It is influenced by news, market sentiment, and institutional decisions.

It will take a lot of effort and money on them, no doubt, last time I heard about whales was moving the market was way back in 2018 if I'm not mistaken, we are also in the bear market and as far as my memory goes, it was like 3 whales colluding in perfect to move the price and go up.

But this cycle might be different though, lots of players now, government, institutions, whales, retail investors. So it will not be that easy as it used to be for this big time players.

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Quote from: rokok lokal on July 06, 2022, 07:42:26 AM

The market is very volatile in this month like a roller coaster movement, Is the roller coaster movement in the money market both the price of bitcoin & ethereum whale controlling it?

We always thought whenever there are changes in the market that whales are dictating them. But imagine how big is the capitalization for each market. I doubt whales can have such a huge effect in today's Bitcoin and Eth market. We should know that market volatility is dictated by the supply and demand in the market. It is influenced by news, market sentiment, and institutional decisions.

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Quote from: InpulseX on July 19, 2022, 05:21:07 PM

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Cryptocurrency market is very risky but it is a good opportunity to earn money.
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Quote from: freedomgo on July 18, 2022, 03:44:05 PM

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Whales have no control over it during the bearish market. It's not the whale but the global economic has been pushing people to dump their tokens and exchange it to the cash or fiat money to keep their value from the volatility. You must also aware if there are some crypto companies that already collapse and even venture capital like 3ac was also going bankrupt as well. That proves that if the world is not yet fine for now. The roller coaster may still continue if another bad news will come very soon. prepare yourself.

Well, we should have known in the first place that the whole crypto market is like a roller coaster, one time they're up, the next they fall down. And volatility keeps it from doing so. However, there are big whales that come to take advantage when the market is especially bearish, but they have no control when the market turns into deep bearish since its the worldly events that gets to influence the market more. When there are inevitable negative events that are happening in the market, expect that the market will follow a roller coaster moves.

Cryptocurrency market continue to be very risky but it offers a lot of opportunities to users.
The most important is to monitor the market to check new projects that appear on the market to understand how useful they are and evaluate their potential like this https://twitter.com/nugen_coin/status/1549285079624863745

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 14, 2022, 03:09:53 AM

Quote from: rokok lokal on July 06, 2022, 07:42:26 AM

The market is very volatile in this month like a roller coaster movement, Is the roller coaster movement in the money market both the price of bitcoin & ethereum whale controlling it?

what's happening now IMO the impact of global economic conditions has resulted in the collapse of the crypto market, so if the whales have control over the current downturn it's very small they don't have enough power to manipulate it all the time. The collapse of global markets and the global economic situation prompted many people to stop their activities in any investment and choose cash options. The downturn in the crypto market will continue even deeper especially if more bad news comes out.

That's always expected to happen if there will be no positive news that could influence the market to move upward. We will witness more price downturn but this is not only happening in the crypto market, but certainly in all types of market as the global economic conditions have worsen. However, big whales have nothing to do with this. Although they can create some sudden moves in the crypto market, but they can't manipulate the whole situation happening in the market right now.

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I think all markets are a rollercoaster. Not just bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. But you can see the ups and downs more clearly here. These cycles are making a lot of people think about whether this is the bottom or not. When the price of different coins is at its high, there will be other things to think about.

Well, if we consider in general, using historical charts as an example, then yes. The more frequent the roller coaster in a certain segment, the more volatile and therefore more risky the asset is. In cryptocurrency, volatility is the main advantage and also a serious disadvantage, and investments in altcoins are attractive only because of volatility, because where else can you get such a big profit in such a short period of time.

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Quote from: milewilda on July 18, 2022, 05:33:41 PM

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 18, 2022, 01:14:30 PM

Rollercoasters can be fun but in this case, it’s best to not panic & just continue to steadily DCA with what you can regularly afford. Bear markets are the times that you lay the roots to make life changing money.

Some say something like but the opposite can be bad when it's bearish, but it goes regularly and it's better with DCA because many people have done this since the bears came they have bought on average below this low price will be looking forward to a pretty hefty profit if the market is bullish again.
By placing money regularly, of course, more bitcoins will be held.

But we know that not all people would really be having that capability on doing so and not all would really be having the funds on making DCA and even if they do have the funds then their primary enemy would really be their mind which had been greatly affected by their emotions which it is really just normal since we are just human beings which it is really that common that we would really be hesitating on something that we could really see that it do really make out some possibility of the price to decline even more which i would consider to be normal.Once you do step your foot into this market then you should really be making yourself prepared about the volatility yet this had been always the main thing that we could really encounter most of the time.

It's true that not everyone has a strong ability to make DCA investments because they will face various futures including their doubts and their minds that are affected by emotions that see the market going into chaos, but it's just a good plan we also do it not necessarily smooth because it will many obstacles all the time because they don't know the future but consistently they will definitely have that kind of ability.
Everyone will think more differently what they do, although it's not easy but I always imagine wanting to go through it.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on July 18, 2022, 06:04:31 PM

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I think all markets are a rollercoaster. Not just bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. But you can see the ups and downs more clearly here. These cycles are making a lot of people think about whether this is the bottom or not. When the price of different coins is at its high, there will be other things to think about.

Yeah, even stocks and s&p 500 and we'll never get a stable market at all times. There could be some time that we'll see them stable but eventually, all of them will comeback and will be that volatile just like cryptocurrencies. The traditional investors don't like how volatile cryptos are but they're turning blind of themselves when it's about the traditional markets that are also volatile and unpredictable just like how it goes with the tech stocks.

The cryptocurrency market is notable for its lack of regulation. For example, if there is a sharp change in the stock market price, trading stops. As you know, this does not happen with cryptocurrency. That's why there is a lot of volatility and high risk. In the stock market, things are much slower.

This is why manipulator love cryptocurrency because they can work with their certain attacks if they want to earn or take position that's why we need to choose some good position and to attain this we need to study how market moves in certain conditions currently happening. Being experience trader have good advantage because we might get an idea on possible tracks of each volatility.

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Quote from: rokok lokal on July 06, 2022, 07:42:26 AM

The market is very volatile in this month like a roller coaster movement, Is the roller coaster movement in the money market both the price of bitcoin & ethereum whale controlling it?

Whales are just somehow contributing to the volatility of the market, they are not controlling the price. And even you as a small investor do as well as in the first place, the market has been very volatile since the very beginning and that was because people are buying and selling. So, nothing we have to be surprised with the market situation and if we gonna understand this roller coaster trend, we come to the point of being thankful as we have the chance to buy at low and sell at high which gives us profit.

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I think all markets are a rollercoaster. Not just bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. But you can see the ups and downs more clearly here. These cycles are making a lot of people think about whether this is the bottom or not. When the price of different coins is at its high, there will be other things to think about.

Yeah, even stocks and s&p 500 and we'll never get a stable market at all times. There could be some time that we'll see them stable but eventually, all of them will comeback and will be that volatile just like cryptocurrencies. The traditional investors don't like how volatile cryptos are but they're turning blind of themselves when it's about the traditional markets that are also volatile and unpredictable just like how it goes with the tech stocks.

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Quote from: Raflesia on July 18, 2022, 05:26:48 PM

Quote from: DeathAngel on July 18, 2022, 01:14:30 PM

Rollercoasters can be fun but in this case, it’s best to not panic & just continue to steadily DCA with what you can regularly afford. Bear markets are the times that you lay the roots to make life changing money.

Some say something like but the opposite can be bad when it's bearish, but it goes regularly and it's better with DCA because many people have done this since the bears came they have bought on average below this low price will be looking forward to a pretty hefty profit if the market is bullish again.
By placing money regularly, of course, more bitcoins will be held.

But we know that not all people would really be having that capability on doing so and not all would really be having the funds on making DCA and even if they do have the funds then their primary enemy would really be their mind which had been greatly affected by their emotions which it is really just normal since we are just human beings which it is really that common that we would really be hesitating on something that we could really see that it do really make out some possibility of the price to decline even more which i would consider to be normal.Once you do step your foot into this market then you should really be making yourself prepared about the volatility yet this had been always the main thing that we could really encounter most of the time.

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Quote from: DeathAngel on July 18, 2022, 01:14:30 PM

Rollercoasters can be fun but in this case, it’s best to not panic & just continue to steadily DCA with what you can regularly afford. Bear markets are the times that you lay the roots to make life changing money.

Some say something like but the opposite can be bad when it's bearish, but it goes regularly and it's better with DCA because many people have done this since the bears came they have bought on average below this low price will be looking forward to a pretty hefty profit if the market is bullish again.
By placing money regularly, of course, more bitcoins will be held.

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Whales have no control over it during the bearish market. It's not the whale but the global economic has been pushing people to dump their tokens and exchange it to the cash or fiat money to keep their value from the volatility. You must also aware if there are some crypto companies that already collapse and even venture capital like 3ac was also going bankrupt as well. That proves that if the world is not yet fine for now. The roller coaster may still continue if another bad news will come very soon. prepare yourself.

Well, we should have known in the first place that the whole crypto market is like a roller coaster, one time they're up, the next they fall down. And volatility keeps it from doing so. However, there are big whales that come to take advantage when the market is especially bearish, but they have no control when the market turns into deep bearish since its the worldly events that gets to influence the market more. When there are inevitable negative events that are happening in the market, expect that the market will follow a roller coaster moves.

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Rollercoasters can be fun but in this case, it’s best to not panic & just continue to steadily DCA with what you can regularly afford. Bear markets are the times that you lay the roots to make life changing money.

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Quote from: posi on July 14, 2022, 10:47:32 PM

The roller coaster ride will never stop, there will always be speculators in the market, and there will always be buying and selling going on.

Also the term should be used carefully, the market was stagnant between two levels for the past few weeks and defenitely the opposite of a roller-coaster, just that today the price has crossed that level and started going upwards. These type of mistakes may be minute from the OP's point of view, but is the revealing of over-expectation from bitcoin's trading prices from many users in the world.

Whatever be the reason behind the older high-low price movements, the pattern is important and how to profit from it. Markets moving a lot means a lot of chances of profit making by buying at the low and selling at the high, but not by drooling or sulking over the price.

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Quote from: bakasabo on July 14, 2022, 04:59:27 AM

Would be interesting to see what kind of roller coasters there will be, when there are not bitcoin sellers left and there are only holders that waits for price to get back to $67k. What will happen then? Whales will trade with each other? Or trades graphs will be like a straight line, when bots do sell 1 BTC/ buy 1 BTC.

I've been observing this roller coaster for a long time. Down on the start of the week, up on Fridays. If this continues, I think I am gonna start thinking about risking some amount and do weekly trading.

The roller coaster ride will never stop, there will always be speculators in the market, and there will always be buying and selling going on. Once the roller coaster stops moving means that the whales in the market will not be able to make a profit so they will come up with all sorts of ways to make thousands of waves in the market. We just need to observe and capture the movement of the roller coaster then we can trade and can make a profit.

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That's what the crypto market is like, its fluctuations can be likened to a roller coaster that sometimes suddenly goes up high, then drops drastically. For bitcoin and etherum, of course, everyone already knows because the two of them are the biggest cryptocurrencies and are the top search in all markets, I will take the example of the altcoin that I hold from last year, namely nominex. Last year nominex had a price of 6 usdt per 1 nominex coin, now it has dropped drastically to 0.74 usdt, even though when it was first launched to the market at a hefty price, I thought it would reach 10 usdt per coin.

but these are some of the risks of playing in the crypto world, we must get used to it.

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Quote from: Finestream on July 14, 2022, 06:52:46 PM

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Whales can manipulate the market but it has nothing to do with the roller coaster events in the crypto market. These are things that are called inevitable since they serve as the outcomes to the positive and negative events not only in the market alone but the whole globally economical. But as the crypto market is full of uncertainties, if today we are witnessing the dump and bloody market, then next to it is a bullish market that is all green and pumping. And bitcoin and ethereum prices will always be seen dominate the market.

Ever since the market trend has always been on a roller coaster and this is because we have this volatility. We certainly experiencing such market flow as the demand and supply constantly changing despite the whale's participation, and as to know that they are not the ones who control the market, even these small market players could still affect the market trend. As I understand this situation, I'd found no reason why I have to think negatively as I believe that it recover back again.

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Quote from: sulendra12 on July 14, 2022, 03:12:55 PM

Quote from: rokok lokal on July 06, 2022, 07:42:26 AM

The market is very volatile in this month like a roller coaster movement, Is the roller coaster movement in the money market both the price of bitcoin & ethereum whale controlling it?

The whalers do affect the market most but the regular traders also take a part in the roller coaster event even with just smaller amount of money. It might not get affected that big compared to whalers but sure the amount of volume you invest is included in total volume of trade so indirectly you are taken a part into it. It's really nice to get profit from this event tho Grin

It's true that all of us in the crypto world are part of a very volatile price movement like this roller coaster. So whales do have a big enough influence
on the market, but we also have an important part in the occurrence of volatile price movements. Moreover, the number of small investors who panic
and sell their coins at low prices is quite a lot, which is why the bear market is still not over. So if we want a bull market to come soon, we all have
to stop selling our coins at low prices. What should be done should be to buy more coins that are potential for long-term investment, we just start
from ourselves to accumulate potential coins in a bear market situation like now. The conclusion is that only people who are patient and able to hold
until the bull market comes can generate big profits.

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Whales have no control over it during the bearish market. It's not the whale but the global economic has been pushing people to dump their tokens and exchange it to the cash or fiat money to keep their value from the volatility. You must also aware if there are some crypto companies that already collapse and even venture capital like 3ac was also going bankrupt as well. That proves that if the world is not yet fine for now. The roller coaster may still continue if another bad news will come very soon. prepare yourself.

Whales can manipulate the market but it has nothing to do with the roller coaster events in the crypto market. These are things that are called inevitable since they serve as the outcomes to the positive and negative events not only in the market alone but the whole globally economical. But as the crypto market is full of uncertainties, if today we are witnessing the dump and bloody market, then next to it is a bullish market that is all green and pumping. And bitcoin and ethereum prices will always be seen dominate the market.

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