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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 17, 2014, 07:14:57 AM

Clashes during mass eviction in crisis-hit Rome

http://rt.com/news/italy-rome-riots-crisis-092

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Currently, 90 properties in Rome are occupied by squatters, and 3,346 evictions were carried in the first six months of 2013 – a 10 percent jump from the first half of 2012 - the city council stated. The squatters represent a mix of Italians and immigrants, many of whom lost their jobs in the economic crisis. Meanwhile, Italy's Panorama magazine investigated property that is currently empty during the crisis, and put the number at 50,000.

They need to do that x10 times in x/10 time frame just to get all the romanians living there. Not even talking about the others or real italians.

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Clashes during mass eviction in crisis-hit Rome

http://rt.com/news/italy-rome-riots-crisis-092

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Currently, 90 properties in Rome are occupied by squatters, and 3,346 evictions were carried in the first six months of 2013 – a 10 percent jump from the first half of 2012 - the city council stated. The squatters represent a mix of Italians and immigrants, many of whom lost their jobs in the economic crisis. Meanwhile, Italy's Panorama magazine investigated property that is currently empty during the crisis, and put the number at 50,000.

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Tthere was a similar legislation in Greece regarding "feta" cheese.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 17, 2014, 01:31:46 AM

Quote from: niothor on April 17, 2014, 12:59:29 AM

In the last news I read regarding food from Italy were my country was involved was that Italian brands were using Romanian milk and cheese for their products and selling them advertising that they are 100% italian.

I don't think that it is being done on a large scale. Do you think people won't be able to differentiate between Romanian and Italian cheese? Also, food safety authorities are very efficient in Italy.

Actually it was.
The newspapers here we're full of stories. Hundred of tones of milk was used for the "traditional" mozzarella and tons of dairy products we're manufactured here with italian names and exported.
The reason was the cheaper milk , sometime by 40-50%.

I think they passed a law in 2013 about this in Italy to prevent the imports but i don't know how to search for it.

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Quote from: niothor on April 17, 2014, 12:59:29 AM

In the last news I read regarding food from Italy were my country was involved was that Italian brands were using Romanian milk and cheese for their products and selling them advertising that they are 100% italian.

I don't think that it is being done on a large scale. Do you think people won't be able to differentiate between Romanian and Italian cheese? Also, food safety authorities are very efficient in Italy.

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Quote from: countryfree on April 16, 2014, 08:54:39 PM

Quote from: niothor on April 16, 2014, 10:43:38 AM

Quote from: countryfree on April 15, 2014, 08:18:55 PM

Italians are hard workers. I'm always surprised when I'm going to an Italian restaurant to get such great food for less than half I would pay in neighboring France. Then, they have to work hard, in most of Italy, property is very expensive. Several times what it costs in Spain.

Probably the owner is a german the cook a romanian and the girl serving the stuff a russian.
And the meat from slovenia and the vegetables from turkey.

No. I'm very careful when it comes to choosing restaurants. The places I choose are 100% Italian where nobody speaks anything but Italian, and I'm going there to eat Italian pasta with Italian cheese and Italian ham. When it comes to that, a major issue right now in Italy is that some German company has managed to get the right to sell some German ham with the name of a famous Italian ham, and it's a shame because that German ham doesn't taste at all like the Italian ham... Thanks Europe!

In Rome, there are quite many fast food outlets with Tunisians or other Arabs workers, but I'm not going there.

In the last news I read regarding food from Italy were my country was involved was that Italian brands were using Romanian milk and cheese for their products and selling them advertising that they are 100% italian.
So , i will not be so sure about the real origin of the food.

In a feew years we'll find out that the beer in OktoberFest is actually from the Czech Republic

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Quote from: countryfree on April 16, 2014, 08:54:39 PM

No. I'm very careful when it comes to choosing restaurants. The places I choose are 100% Italian where nobody speaks anything but Italian, and I'm going there to eat Italian pasta with Italian cheese and Italian ham. When it comes to that, a major issue right now in Italy is that some German company has managed to get the right to sell some German ham with the name of a famous Italian ham, and it's a shame because that German ham doesn't taste at all like the Italian ham... Thanks Europe!

So in Italy, most of the restaurants are like this, or are they flooded with the Maghrebs? Not many Italian restaurants or pizzerias where I live, so I can't get that selective. Grin

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Quote from: niothor on April 16, 2014, 10:43:38 AM

Quote from: countryfree on April 15, 2014, 08:18:55 PM

Italians are hard workers. I'm always surprised when I'm going to an Italian restaurant to get such great food for less than half I would pay in neighboring France. Then, they have to work hard, in most of Italy, property is very expensive. Several times what it costs in Spain.

Probably the owner is a german the cook a romanian and the girl serving the stuff a russian.
And the meat from slovenia and the vegetables from turkey.

No. I'm very careful when it comes to choosing restaurants. The places I choose are 100% Italian where nobody speaks anything but Italian, and I'm going there to eat Italian pasta with Italian cheese and Italian ham. When it comes to that, a major issue right now in Italy is that some German company has managed to get the right to sell some German ham with the name of a famous Italian ham, and it's a shame because that German ham doesn't taste at all like the Italian ham... Thanks Europe!

In Rome, there are quite many fast food outlets with Tunisians or other Arabs workers, but I'm not going there.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 16, 2014, 11:01:34 AM

Quote from: niothor on April 16, 2014, 10:43:38 AM

Probably the owner is a german the cook a romanian and the girl serving the stuff a russian.
And the meat from slovenia and the vegetables from turkey.

That means that you know nothing about the Italian restaurants. Most of the Italian restaurants in Germany and France are owned by Southern Italian clans, and they mostly employ people from their clan only. Very rarely, there might be immigrant workers. That said, recently, a very disturbing trend has been evolving, check this:

http://www.thelocal.de/20140414/the-mafia-has-infiltrated-every-sector-in-germany

You have watched to many movies

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Quote from: niothor on April 16, 2014, 10:43:38 AM

Probably the owner is a german the cook a romanian and the girl serving the stuff a russian.
And the meat from slovenia and the vegetables from turkey.

That means that you know nothing about the Italian restaurants. Most of the Italian restaurants in Germany and France are owned by Southern Italian clans, and they mostly employ people from their clan only. Very rarely, there might be immigrant workers. That said, recently, a very disturbing trend has been evolving, check this:

http://www.thelocal.de/20140414/the-mafia-has-infiltrated-every-sector-in-germany

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Quote from: countryfree on April 15, 2014, 08:18:55 PM

Italians are hard workers. I'm always surprised when I'm going to an Italian restaurant to get such great food for less than half I would pay in neighboring France. Then, they have to work hard, in most of Italy, property is very expensive. Several times what it costs in Spain.

Probably the owner is a german the cook a romanian and the girl serving the stuff a russian.
And the meat from slovenia and the vegetables from turkey.

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Quote from: niothor on April 14, 2014, 07:40:53 AM

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Sorry for the spanish people on this board but that is the painful truth.

Talk about the painful truth, have you heard about the Greeks?
//Just kidding

Stereotypes and "racism" are not really fair.
It's easy to see that socialism encourages people to be lazy.

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Quote from: countryfree on April 15, 2014, 08:18:55 PM

Italians are hard workers. I'm always surprised when I'm going to an Italian restaurant to get such great food for less than half I would pay in neighboring France. Then, they have to work hard, in most of Italy, property is very expensive. Several times what it costs in Spain.

Well... when we compare with the French, everyone else will turnout to be hard workers. BTW... French food is expensive everywhere. Even if you go to a French restaurant in the NY, you'll have to pay more than the neighboring Pizzeria.

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Italians are hard workers. I'm always surprised when I'm going to an Italian restaurant to get such great food for less than half I would pay in neighboring France. Then, they have to work hard, in most of Italy, property is very expensive. Several times what it costs in Spain.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 14, 2014, 07:38:12 AM

Quote from: niothor on April 14, 2014, 07:10:27 AM

Besides the fact that what you watched is a staged video and story , there are plenty of italians and spaniards who simple decline job offers and let emmigrants do it while they live on social welfare.

Partly agree with that. Italians are some of the most lazy people in Europe (perhaps, after the French). And they are too self-minded as well. Around 30% of the women don't want any children. Most of the men don't want to work. Add the Italian mafia to the picture, and you have got serious problems. Immigrants are flooding Italy. Not only the Romanians and other Eastern Europeans, they have got plenty of Moroccans, Tunisians, Turks and Somalis.

Put spaniards on the second spot before the french

. With .it still clinging to nr 1.

Sorry for the spanish people on this board but that is the painful truth.

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Quote from: niothor on April 14, 2014, 07:10:27 AM

Besides the fact that what you watched is a staged video and story , there are plenty of italians and spaniards who simple decline job offers and let emmigrants do it while they live on social welfare.

Partly agree with that. Italians are some of the most lazy people in Europe (perhaps, after the French). And they are too self-minded as well. Around 30% of the women don't want any children. Most of the men don't want to work. Add the Italian mafia to the picture, and you have got serious problems. Immigrants are flooding Italy. Not only the Romanians and other Eastern Europeans, they have got plenty of Moroccans, Tunisians, Turks and Somalis.

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Quote from: TaunSew on April 14, 2014, 07:04:35 AM

I was watching international house hunters and they featured a rich old American woman who relocated to Rome, bought a three bedroom apartment for herself and then took a local service job for a 'social life'. Huh

Here I was thinking that woman was taking a job from some Italian woman who needed one and she is exacerbating the housing bubble in Rome and making it more difficult for local families to afford housing.

What a crap world we live in.

How the hell was a job available with 10% unemployment rate

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Besides the fact that what you watched is a staged video and story , there are plenty of italians and spaniards who simple decline job offers and let emmigrants do it while they live on social welfare.

That's why half of europe is full of romanians and other eastern block workers.

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I was watching international house hunters and they featured a rich old American woman who relocated to Rome, bought a three bedroom apartment for herself and then took a local service job for a 'social life'. Huh

Here I was thinking that woman was taking a job from some Italian woman who needed one and she is exacerbating the housing bubble in Rome and making it more difficult for local families to afford housing.

What a crap world we live in.

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Quote from: Nemo1024 on April 12, 2014, 03:59:22 PM

While Maidan in Kiev fought for austerity, the rest of Europe fights against it:

http://rt.com/news/rome-austerity-protests-march-172/

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At least 80 people – both police and protesters – have been injured as street battles broke out in Rome, with rocks being flung and police deploying pepper spray. Thousands took to the street to march against austerity measures.

where are the BBC, Fox News, CNN to publish this protest? they are silent and try to keep EU citizens uninformed. there are more and more protests across the EU, you cannot hide it any more.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 14, 2014, 06:12:59 AM

Quote from: niothor on April 14, 2014, 05:45:29 AM

And? He can easily print another 170 trilions if he he (they) want .
It's time people realize the americans don't care about their debt , it's the other nations that have a carrot stuck in their a*** over this.

Well.. if he is printing US Dollar bills just like that, then no sane head of state would keep that currency as the primary Forex reserve. Also, the US treasury bonds will get devalued, affecting major holders such as Japan and China.

Trust me , by the time obama finishes his mandate it will be more costly to ship their whole debt to china that the actual value of those dollar bills.

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