Topic: Ron Paul: ‘NATO’s an Entangling Alliance We’d Be Better Off Without’ (Read 1232 times)

“The fact is that the situation was critical in the extreme. …The majority of the squadrons had been reduced to the status of training units, and were fit only for operations against unescorted bombers. … Replacement pilots, with little flight training and often no gunnery training, suffered high casualty rates thus exacerbating the problem.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain#cite_ref-88) – (http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/battle-of-britain-in-the-words-of-air-chief-marshal-hugh-dowding.html/2)
“By the beginning of September the incidence of casualties became so serious that a fresh squadron would become depleted and exhausted before any of the resting and reforming squadrons was ready to take its place. Fighter pilots were no longer being produced in numbers sufficient to fill the gaps in the fighting ranks.” (http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/battle-of-britain-in-the-words-of-air-chief-marshal-hugh-dowding.html/7)
The arrival of foreign squadrons (1 Canadian, 2 Polish and 1 Czech) helped a little, but what really saved Britain was that the Germans were discouraged by their unexpected losses, which led them to think they had underestimated the Brits – or overestimated their own strength. Seeing he could not “immediately establish his “air superiority” on this front, Hitler decided to “postpone” “Operation Sea Lion” and instead, redeploy all his forces to the eastern front, where where he was being “mauled and broken and slaughtered and manhandled by the strength of the Russian Soviet Armies.”
In the words of Dowding: “Serious as were our difficulties, …those of the enemy were worse, and by the end of October the Germans abandoned their attempts to wear down the Fighter Command, and the country was delivered from the threat of immediate invasion.” (http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/battle-of-britain-in-the-words-of-air-chief-marshal-hugh-dowding.html/2)

  yeah, and who grinded the Nazis.  Maybe if someone over there could've handled their shit then we could've sat that mess out too.

“The fact is that the situation was critical in the extreme. …The majority of the squadrons had been reduced to the status of training units, and were fit only for operations against unescorted bombers. … Replacement pilots, with little flight training and often no gunnery training, suffered high casualty rates thus exacerbating the problem.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain#cite_ref-88) – (http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/battle-of-britain-in-the-words-of-air-chief-marshal-hugh-dowding.html/2)
“By the beginning of September the incidence of casualties became so serious that a fresh squadron would become depleted and exhausted before any of the resting and reforming squadrons was ready to take its place. Fighter pilots were no longer being produced in numbers sufficient to fill the gaps in the fighting ranks.” (http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/battle-of-britain-in-the-words-of-air-chief-marshal-hugh-dowding.html/7)
The arrival of foreign squadrons (1 Canadian, 2 Polish and 1 Czech) helped a little, but what really saved Britain was that the Germans were discouraged by their unexpected losses, which led them to think they had underestimated the Brits – or overestimated their own strength. Seeing he could not “immediately establish his “air superiority” on this front, Hitler decided to “postpone” “Operation Sea Lion” and instead, redeploy all his forces to the eastern front, where where he was being “mauled and broken and slaughtered and manhandled by the strength of the Russian Soviet Armies.”
In the words of Dowding: “Serious as were our difficulties, …those of the enemy were worse, and by the end of October the Germans abandoned their attempts to wear down the Fighter Command, and the country was delivered from the threat of immediate invasion.” (http://spitfiresite.com/2010/04/battle-of-britain-in-the-words-of-air-chief-marshal-hugh-dowding.html/2)

Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union did not liberate Europe.

Soviet Union.

yeah, and who grinded the Nazis.  Maybe if someone over there could've handled their shit then we could've sat that mess out too.

I agree, the us protect rapist like Epstein.

Screw the usa, burn it, and finish it's people forevermore. it's because that throught fiat you can siphon the economy of the rest of the world, and those that oppose kill them, to spread gmos, torture, rape, spying, dishonesty, fake trading, fake food, fake boobs, and fake pussies... mirror and smoke.

so you will stfu and be like all your compatriots grinded, like all the fascist Nazi racist before you...

The US does way more for NATO and the UN than they do for it.

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't every single time, so I'd say fuck it to both.

If we want to get involved in a given situation because it impacts our interests or we can see the overwhelming need to stave off some crazy domino like disaster, then fine, otherwise what good does it do the US to have mini powers lined up for what is basically moral support?  As events in the Middle East have shown, there is absolutely zero benefit for us, while we get to play world cop at the expense of a shitload of money, while these other countries get to diddle on the sidelines waiting for daddy to come along and clean up their backyard and then turn and bitch after the fact.

I've seen enough of this shit.  Screw NATO.  Screw the UN.

You want our help?  Ask for it.  Pay for it.  And STFU at the hell the US Army, Marines et al unleash at your request because the rest of the world is seemingly unable to handle the heavy lifting without our help the majority of the time.  It ain't a fuckin' bake sale they're bringing to town so know what you're getting when you pick up that phone.

The American military is not a mercenary force and it should not be an interventionist force. Other nations should not be able to request it to do the 'heavy lifting' if only they pay for it. I disagree with this attitude.

The US does way more for NATO and the UN than they do for it.

We're damned if we do and damned if we don't every single time, so I'd say fuck it to both.

If we want to get involved in a given situation because it impacts our interests or we can see the overwhelming need to stave off some crazy domino like disaster, then fine, otherwise what good does it do the US to have mini powers lined up for what is basically moral support?  As events in the Middle East have shown, there is absolutely zero benefit for us, while we get to play world cop at the expense of a shitload of money, while these other countries get to diddle on the sidelines waiting for daddy to come along and clean up their backyard and then turn and bitch after the fact.

I've seen enough of this shit.  Screw NATO.  Screw the UN.

You want our help?  Ask for it.  Pay for it.  And STFU at the hell the US Army, Marines et al unleash at your request because the rest of the world is seemingly unable to handle the heavy lifting without our help the majority of the time.  It ain't a fuckin' bake sale they're bringing to town so know what you're getting when you pick up that phone.