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Quote from: Little Mouse on March 04, 2019, 12:51:05 PM

I don't know will it work or not. I have won a little today with 36x payout. I didn't use any techniques. Randomly put my money on a single or two, sometimes even number and won most of the times.

I am sure that is luck, and you are lucky guys in the gambling. But you cannot expect the luck will come to you in the next game because maybe the luck will go after you win and I don't think that play for once again will be a good idea. If I won like you, I would definitely quit gambling quickly because I don't want to see me get a loss after that.

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Been playing roulette for several years now, not my favorite though, until a friend hook me up and that's where the fun begin. I never look at the odds, but thankfully the OP has put a good thread for everyone to see. I'm experienced lots of good hits and winning with roulette that I don't have a single strategy. Actually I only have one though, bet on red and black. I remember one of those days wherein I got a lucky streak of reds like 10 or more straight. Playing 1:1 with a dealer, LOL, he really looks bored because I'm the only one playing on that table and I'm winning, perhaps I got lucky that night.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on March 04, 2019, 12:51:05 PM

I don't know will it work or not. I have won a little today with 36x payout. I didn't use any techniques. Randomly put my money on a single or two, sometimes even number and won most of the times.

Good for you, but i have to say that your strategy will work just as any other strategy. Only with lots of luck.

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I don't know will it work or not. I have won a little today with 36x payout. I didn't use any techniques. Randomly put my money on a single or two, sometimes even number and won most of the times.

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on March 04, 2019, 11:21:20 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 04, 2019, 10:58:53 AM

That is wrong, the true odds in 37 is to 1 (1-36 numbers + 0) and then 38 to 1 (1-36 numbers, 0 and then 00). So the odds is really against you here so it's based on just pure luck and nothing else. Your strategy is to just place a bet on a certain number and get's lucky.

My whole topic is about that... In quoted post i'm writing about gamblers being wrong saying that in roulette you have 50:50 probability of winning because they are forgetting about 0 and 00. Have you even read topic and my post or only first sentence in my post.

More the zero higher the chances of you losing bevuse that 50 gets reduced accordingly as stated . Also this is normal beacuse casinos does exists still beacuse they are making money and they are not heir to do charity by giving the money to others.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 04, 2019, 10:58:53 AM

That is wrong, the true odds in 37 is to 1 (1-36 numbers + 0) and then 38 to 1 (1-36 numbers, 0 and then 00). So the odds is really against you here so it's based on just pure luck and nothing else. Your strategy is to just place a bet on a certain number and get's lucky.

My whole topic is about that... In quoted post i'm writing about gamblers being wrong saying that in roulette you have 50:50 probability of winning because they are forgetting about 0 and 00. Have you even read topic and my post or only first sentence in my post.

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on March 04, 2019, 05:41:01 AM

Quote from: pixie85 on March 03, 2019, 05:37:12 PM

I knew that betting on red/black, low/high, and odd/even is the same thing. I usually chose red/black for whatever reason. I can't explain it. What I didn't know was that betting on numbers gives you the same chance of winning. I thought that it's much harder to win but with a bigger profit so if you can bet only one or two times you will do much better choosing a color than numbers.

Its much harder to win but payout is proportional to risk what gives us no difference between betting on colour against on single number in infinity rolls. I only wanted to check it to know if there is exact the same statistic payout. Because if there wouldn't (f.e. 972 on black/red and 973,5 on 8 numbers combination that it would be proof that the best strategy is to calculate everything and bet on highest statistic payout).

Quote from: cryptovigi on March 03, 2019, 05:00:07 PM

You misunderstood me ... I said that the rules cheat us because the house always has a better chance of winning and this is written in the official rules ...
When you play a game with another player, the rules of the game usually make your chances of winning equal, in the case of a casino the situation is different...

Agreed. Dozen of times I heard that in roulette you have 50:50 to win. Gambllers very often forget about 0 and how important it is to your wallet after x rolls. Some of them choose americal roullet (with 0 and 00) only because someone said then that its "lucky table" or interface is better (in online casino).

That is wrong, the true odds in 37 is to 1 (1-36 numbers + 0) and then 38 to 1 (1-36 numbers, 0 and then 00). So the odds is really against you here so it's based on just pure luck and nothing else. Your strategy is to just place a bet on a certain number and get's lucky.

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Quote from: vennali on February 18, 2019, 04:19:46 PM

Well, Good to know that whatever method you choose to bet on, the house edge doesnt really change, so it all boils down to your betting strategy. I personally like to bet on Black or Red on European Roulette. Sometimes martingale when I have a huge bankroll but mostly just whatever color feels right for the moment. I dont think strategy helps much in roulette unless you have unlimited bankroll.

And no one can beat the house edge lol 😂

I only play roulette now thru Facebook because i never win in online casino for the reason i dont know.while in Facebook i am a millionaire but I cannot spend the money because it has no value at all 😜

But maybe i will try again by checking this threads advices

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Quote from: pixie85 on March 03, 2019, 05:37:12 PM

I knew that betting on red/black, low/high, and odd/even is the same thing. I usually chose red/black for whatever reason. I can't explain it. What I didn't know was that betting on numbers gives you the same chance of winning. I thought that it's much harder to win but with a bigger profit so if you can bet only one or two times you will do much better choosing a color than numbers.

Its much harder to win but payout is proportional to risk what gives us no difference between betting on colour against on single number in infinity rolls. I only wanted to check it to know if there is exact the same statistic payout. Because if there wouldn't (f.e. 972 on black/red and 973,5 on 8 numbers combination that it would be proof that the best strategy is to calculate everything and bet on highest statistic payout).

Quote from: cryptovigi on March 03, 2019, 05:00:07 PM

You misunderstood me ... I said that the rules cheat us because the house always has a better chance of winning and this is written in the official rules ...
When you play a game with another player, the rules of the game usually make your chances of winning equal, in the case of a casino the situation is different...

Agreed. Dozen of times I heard that in roulette you have 50:50 to win. Gambllers very often forget about 0 and how important it is to your wallet after x rolls. Some of them choose americal roullet (with 0 and 00) only because someone said then that its "lucky table" or interface is better (in online casino).

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I knew that betting on red/black, low/high, and odd/even is the same thing. I usually chose red/black for whatever reason. I can't explain it. What I didn't know was that betting on numbers gives you the same chance of winning. I thought that it's much harder to win but with a bigger profit so if you can bet only one or two times you will do much better choosing a color than numbers.

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 27, 2019, 07:41:22 AM

Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on February 27, 2019, 06:46:13 AM

Quote from: cryptovigi on February 22, 2019, 09:11:09 AM

roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

In fact roulette can cheat us too. ~

First of, I'm pretty sure there are provably fair online roulettes.
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I will be less emphatic and say "I hope" that there are many honest online roulette ...
Unfortunately, it is very difficult to check

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Quote from: cryptovigi on February 22, 2019, 09:11:09 AM

roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

It's not a cheat that's how american roulette pays out on all casinos. The gambler should know the rules of the game before placing bets.
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You misunderstood me ... I said that the rules cheat us because the house always has a better chance of winning and this is written in the official rules ...
When you play a game with another player, the rules of the game usually make your chances of winning equal, in the case of a casino the situation is different...

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Quote from: Betwrong on February 27, 2019, 07:41:22 AM

Pretty sure there are provably fair online roulettes. Check out this video, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6ZxDXvU7o

Regarding the OP, good job! Keeping in mind those probabilities will never hurt. However, we should understand that we would come to the numbers in the column "Average win" only if tens of millions of bets were made. Within 100-200 bets anything can happen.

For sure there are. Thats why i posted that it is important to choose them instead of those that you are not able to proof if they are fair. Some of them has intitutions certificates, some of them are open source. Some of them uses this hash method. Which i'm not 100% sure that can't be faked.

Casino don't need to cheat to profit. But we need to know that they can and we have to make sure to avoid them.

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Quote from: Tytanowy Janusz on February 27, 2019, 06:46:13 AM

Quote from: cryptovigi on February 22, 2019, 09:11:09 AM

roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

In fact roulette can cheat us too. ~

First of, I'm pretty sure there are provably fair online roulettes. Check out this video, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6ZxDXvU7o

Regarding the OP, good job! Keeping in mind those probabilities will never hurt. However, we should understand that we would come to the numbers in the column "Average win" only if tens of millions of bets were made. Within 100-200 bets anything can happen.

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For me, roulette was a difficult game. How if you try with dice game? Grin

You can have a chance to win for the money, and it depends on how much your bets. I don't think that there is the best way to bet in roulette because it's a game of chance and I think we depend on the luck only.

So if you already calculate the average of winning and you found that there is no difference, I think you get the answer that in roulette, you cannot find the best way to bet.

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Quote from: cryptovigi on February 22, 2019, 09:11:09 AM

roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

In fact roulette can cheat us too. Number "rolled" in online casino is just number from random number generator algorithm. And you have no proof that its not faked by one IF statement ( (IF bet > average player bet) AND (player bet on red) THAN roll black) ELSE generate random number. That way each time you will have be or not to be situation you will loose. It can also be improved by >50% of portfolio, or by simple algorithm that checks if player is using martingale strategy and if it returns true than roll killing combo.

Even offline real world casino can cheat us on roulette by cheating in roulette mechanizm (magnet etc).

Thats why choosing good, trusted casino is so important. Especialy with online casino where cheating is as easy as 1 extra line of code.

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Quote from: cryptovigi on February 22, 2019, 09:11:09 AM

but we still have a green zero, which means that the probability of winning will always be a bit lower than 50/50 that you are talking about...
In other words, the bank is in a better position than the player as usual ...

Yes I realised that a bit later, I totally forgot about the 0 and 00 fields in Roulette. Another member also noticed that and corrected me a few posts before.

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Quote from: cryptovigi on February 22, 2019, 09:11:09 AM

roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

It's not a cheat that's how american roulette pays out on all casinos. The gambler should know the rules of the game before placing bets. A casino can change the rules of the game but it rarely happens and the changes that i've seen are only minor (adjusting the payouts, max bet, etc)

On moneypot there was an old roulette game that had a very low house edge 0.27% basically when you lose and the outcome is green they will return a small portion of your bet.

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Quote from: cryptovigi on February 22, 2019, 09:11:09 AM

Quote from: Pmalek on February 19, 2019, 04:01:36 PM

Betting on red or black gives you a 50% chance to win and double your money. So mathematically speaking that is what you should bet on.

but we still have a green zero, which means that the probability of winning will always be a bit lower than 50/50 that you are talking about...
In other words, the bank is in a better position than the player as usual ...

Quote from: shoreno on February 22, 2019, 06:14:54 AM

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roulette cant also cheat us because its purely random
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roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

Rules can't cheat you either, rules are there and are the same for everyone playing, your brain can cheat you though if he does not calculate properly and does not interpret rules properly Cool

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Quote from: Pmalek on February 19, 2019, 04:01:36 PM

Betting on red or black gives you a 50% chance to win and double your money. So mathematically speaking that is what you should bet on.

but we still have a green zero, which means that the probability of winning will always be a bit lower than 50/50 that you are talking about...
In other words, the bank is in a better position than the player as usual ...

Quote from: shoreno on February 22, 2019, 06:14:54 AM

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roulette cant also cheat us because its purely random
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roulette can't cheat us but the rules can... (additional one or two fields 0 and 00 make the difference)...

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Quote from: DeathAngel on February 20, 2019, 11:57:31 AM

I don’t have a complicated strategy, I just bet on a set few numbers that I like. It’s probably about as likely to win as anything else. You can’t cheat roulette, there’s a reason you never see a poor casino.

When it comes to roulette i dont know any strategy that will work for it but i do play just like you . i only bet on my favorite number or on my favorite color and it does the magic . yeah we cannot cheat the roulette and roulette cant also cheat us because its purely random . however some user claims that live roulettes that they saw on amusement parks or carnivals are cheaters because the machines that they use are faulty.

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