One useful side effect is that, by leaving the network traffic analyser on display, I've started a few discussions about Bitcoin with other customers. Some of the MacD staff seem to be interested as well.
Topic: Running Bitcoin core over public wifi (Read 2086 times)
Running a full node seems to be a viable option, although I only run it to syncronize the files. and to stay active for about 15 minutes a couple of times a day. If you are going to use public WiFi long term, then you need to make sure you keep up to date, and synchronize every day. I'm getting a transfer rate of about 30Kb/sec.
One useful side effect is that, by leaving the network traffic analyser on display, I've started a few discussions about Bitcoin with other customers. Some of the MacD staff seem to be interested as well.
One useful side effect is that, by leaving the network traffic analyser on display, I've started a few discussions about Bitcoin with other customers. Some of the MacD staff seem to be interested as well.
A cell phone with an expired sim card can still communicate with a notebook. I've got an Alcatel Pixi which I think is rubbish, and I don't feel comfortable using it as a phone. It has bluetooth, USB connectivity, and an SD card slot.
There are many reasons for using public wifi.
1. Living in the country can mean you have to rely on an erratic service utilising overhead copper wire. This can be slow, and affected by high winds.
2. Making Bitcoin exchanges in a public restaurant with WiFi is safer imho. I don't like the idea of online exchanges with wide spreads. This aversion is probably related to my PayPal experiences some years ago.
3. Businessmen on the road, travellers, holidaymakers, yachtsmen, nature photographers, and many others all find an internet connection useful whilst they are away from a home base.
There are many reasons for using public wifi.
1. Living in the country can mean you have to rely on an erratic service utilising overhead copper wire. This can be slow, and affected by high winds.
2. Making Bitcoin exchanges in a public restaurant with WiFi is safer imho. I don't like the idea of online exchanges with wide spreads. This aversion is probably related to my PayPal experiences some years ago.
3. Businessmen on the road, travellers, holidaymakers, yachtsmen, nature photographers, and many others all find an internet connection useful whilst they are away from a home base.
Why do you want to use a public WIFI? Unless you do not have internet at home or something like that I would not take the chance in using public WIFI. There are some people who have nothing better but to break into private systems connected to public WIFI. Is there a reason behind this?
Most public wifi is time limit and have privacy policies who tickle high usage of the network. Also the posibilty with abusing the network they stop offering free wifi. Just short term connection would not be a big problem I guess.
how about if there is a free public wifi that have no privacy policy to limited the usage of network is it still secure to still running bitcoin wallet using that public wifi if we considering it from the security issue of our bitcoin wallet
Your activity should not have much of an effect on other users, however I would not recommend updating the initial information through wifi, you will be there forever. I think you would be safe for now, for there are not to many people looking to hack public wifi bitcoin access, just my opinion though.
Thanks for the warning. I'm considering using a dead mobile as offline storage. Dead as in without a network connection of course.
But with cell phone, you can only use online wallet. Is that safe?
No, e.g. bither has an offline mode for phones.
Your activity should not have much of an effect on other users, however I would not recommend updating the initial information through wifi, you will be there forever. I think you would be safe for now, for there are not to many people looking to hack public wifi bitcoin access, just my opinion though.
Thanks for the warning. I'm considering using a dead mobile as offline storage. Dead as in without a network connection of course.
But with cell phone, you can only use online wallet. Is that safe?
Your activity should not have much of an effect on other users, however I would not recommend updating the initial information through wifi, you will be there forever. I think you would be safe for now, for there are not to many people looking to hack public wifi bitcoin access, just my opinion though.
Thanks for the warning. I'm considering using a dead mobile as offline storage. Dead as in without a network connection of course.
But with cell phone, you can only use online wallet. Is that safe?
Your activity should not have much of an effect on other users, however I would not recommend updating the initial information through wifi, you will be there forever. I think you would be safe for now, for there are not to many people looking to hack public wifi bitcoin access, just my opinion though.
Thanks for the warning. I'm considering using a dead mobile as offline storage. Dead as in without a network connection of course.
I'm on a domestic connection in the Somerset countryside. The connection is made using overhead copper wire. I'm having more trouble here than I had in MacD. It's a lot better since I disabled everything I could find in Windows 10. The Cromebook is better. but I decided that trying to run Bitcoin core over public WiFi on a Chromebook, whilst it appears technically possible, was not a project worthy of the setup time.
Your activity should not have much of an effect on other users, however I would not recommend updating the initial information through wifi, you will be there forever. I think you would be safe for now, for there are not to many people looking to hack public wifi bitcoin access, just my opinion though.
Thanks for the warning. I'm considering using a dead mobile as offline storage. Dead as in without a network connection of course.
There is nothing to hack, the data is verified locally if its modified it will be discarded. If I wanted to get hold of a bitcoin wallet I would not sit at a McD for a week either. Its more likely that you are targeted in general over a public WiFi (e.g. your Windows) than a targeted attack on full nodes. Finding full nodes is easy online, why go to a place where the chance is smaller than finding a block with a CPU?
Your activity should not have much of an effect on other users, however I would not recommend updating the initial information through wifi, you will be there forever. I think you would be safe for now, for there are not to many people looking to hack public wifi bitcoin access, just my opinion though.
Thanks for the warning. I'm considering using a dead mobile as offline storage. Dead as in without a network connection of course.
Your activity should not have much of an effect on other users, however I would not recommend updating the initial information through wifi, you will be there forever. I think you would be safe for now, for there are not to many people looking to hack public wifi bitcoin access, just my opinion though.
Yeah I would definitely use a light wallet like electrum. You don't have to bother with all the syncing.
Here's a link to the electrum wallet download.
https://electrum.org/#download
-Aglacan
Here's a link to the electrum wallet download.
https://electrum.org/#download
-Aglacan
This is agreed. Remember that Bitcoin Core-QT has to sync blocks and every single transaction that are present in the ledger.
Multibit HD and Electrum are the way to go if you don't wish to wait to conduct transaction.
But Bitcoin Core-QT is the original "Satoshi" wallet if you want to keep that in mind, I recommend using it 100% if you have hard drive space and time to wait for the sync.
We need a lot of core clients running so that the wallet service is not centralised. If all of us use online wallet, the network is centralised.
Yeah I would definitely use a light wallet like electrum. You don't have to bother with all the syncing.
Here's a link to the electrum wallet download.
https://electrum.org/#download
-Aglacan
Here's a link to the electrum wallet download.
https://electrum.org/#download
-Aglacan
This is agreed. Remember that Bitcoin Core-QT has to sync blocks and every single transaction that are present in the ledger.
Multibit HD and Electrum are the way to go if you don't wish to wait to conduct transaction.
But Bitcoin Core-QT is the original "Satoshi" wallet if you want to keep that in mind, I recommend using it 100% if you have hard drive space and time to wait for the sync.
Online wallet is not secure for large amount of bitcoins. I would save most coins in my local wallet.
Yeah I would definitely use a light wallet like electrum. You don't have to bother with all the syncing.
Here's a link to the electrum wallet download.
https://electrum.org/#download
-Aglacan
Here's a link to the electrum wallet download.
https://electrum.org/#download
-Aglacan
I started this project to see if Bitcoin could help people with no banking facilities, and no home connection, so if Amazon asks for a credit card, then it will not be suitable. I've already had to "cheat" by using a home connection to complete the blockchain download. I feel that it is still within the spirit of the project, as it should be possible to procure the blockchain on a dvd if one wanted to run a full node. I take the point about using light services and 3rd party wallets. Maybe I'll look into that later. I've checked my credit card, and the MacDonalds costs alone probably exceed anything Amazon would charge. The WiFi is free, the cost is for a few gallons of coffee, plus a load of egg wraps etc.
Free tier EC2 at AWS only supports up to 30 GB of Amazon Elastic Block Storage.
I believe that the blockchain is currently larger than 50 GB.
That means that you would exceed free tier size by more than 20 GB.
EBS pricing can be as cheap as $0.05 per GB per month, so you'd be paying more than $1.00 per month just for the extra 20+ GB of storage.
In addition, I think free tier allows up to 15 GB of outbound internet traffic per month. After that you'll pay $0.09 per GB.
There may be additional charges on top of that for other services.
I believe that the blockchain is currently larger than 50 GB.
That means that you would exceed free tier size by more than 20 GB.
EBS pricing can be as cheap as $0.05 per GB per month, so you'd be paying more than $1.00 per month just for the extra 20+ GB of storage.
In addition, I think free tier allows up to 15 GB of outbound internet traffic per month. After that you'll pay $0.09 per GB.
There may be additional charges on top of that for other services.
As an alternative, you could consider running it in Amazon's AWS and connecting in remotely from your notebook.
Since AWS also has a 12-month free usage tier for anyone with a credit card (including prepaid gift-card types), you can try it "risk free"* without having to bring the whole blockchain down to your notebook. You also get free usage for both Windows and Linux systems so you can play with both.
* may contain traces of risk
Since AWS also has a 12-month free usage tier for anyone with a credit card (including prepaid gift-card types), you can try it "risk free"* without having to bring the whole blockchain down to your notebook. You also get free usage for both Windows and Linux systems so you can play with both.
* may contain traces of risk
No way it gonna work, I don't think the free AWS will support 40 GB download, the free services have limitations of course. You may be charged and maybe have some bad surprise when you credit card bill arrives
And if you account is terminated then everything will be lost, just run a light client is more safe
As an alternative, you could consider running it in Amazon's AWS and connecting in remotely from your notebook.
Since AWS also has a 12-month free usage tier for anyone with a credit card (including prepaid gift-card types), you can try it "risk free"* without having to bring the whole blockchain down to your notebook. You also get free usage for both Windows and Linux systems so you can play with both.
* may contain traces of risk
Since AWS also has a 12-month free usage tier for anyone with a credit card (including prepaid gift-card types), you can try it "risk free"* without having to bring the whole blockchain down to your notebook. You also get free usage for both Windows and Linux systems so you can play with both.
* may contain traces of risk
Has anyone run a full node on a free(!) AWS? I doubt its working. IIRC free instances are crawling at best.
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