Running bitcoind on Amazon AWS (EC2) help

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Quote from: Bitcoin-Monster on February 07, 2014, 11:10:41 PM

Linode is cheaper and better if you dont need all the various services provided by AWS. AWS is overpriced.

I just found this: http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/networks/thousands-of-bitcoins-stolen-in-a-hack-on-linode

Thieves stole Bitcoin from Linode clients. If Linode is insecure, then shouldn't it be last choice for hosting? Which hosting company, that provides virtual Linux servers, is secure?

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Linode is cheaper and better if you dont need all the various services provided by AWS. AWS is overpriced.

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On AWS you can create a Snapshot of your Machine, something AMI don't know exactly.
But i save all my Machines as Snapshots saves some Time.

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Quote from: newguy05 on January 26, 2014, 10:27:05 PM

Aws has it's advantages, it takes away a lot of the security headaches and give a true global distributed footprint to any startup, allowing them to deploy nodes all over the world for fast access. Trying to do all that on your own is a nightmare.

But i really hate their pricing structure, nick and dime you for every little resource usage.

I am currently using linode.com, $20 a month true root access, no issues.

Did you find linode.com to be cheaper and better overall than AWS?

Do you plan on running your web app and bitcoind on one or two remote servers?

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Quote from: newguy05 on January 26, 2014, 10:27:05 PM

Aws has it's advantages, it takes away a lot of the security headaches and give a true global distributed footprint to any startup, allowing them to deploy nodes all over the world for fast access. Trying to do all that on your own is a nightmare.

But i really hate their pricing structure, nick and dime you for every little resource usage.

I am currently using linode.com, $20 a month true root access, no issues.

They just charged me a free trial for 103 dollars, I contacted them already.

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Aws has it's advantages, it takes away a lot of the security headaches and give a true global distributed footprint to any startup, allowing them to deploy nodes all over the world for fast access. Trying to do all that on your own is a nightmare.

But i really hate their pricing structure, nick and dime you for every little resource usage.

I am currently using linode.com, $20 a month true root access, no issues.

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Quote from: Zeal0t on January 25, 2014, 10:35:16 PM

I had no idea Amazon has cloud computing services, wow. Thanks for the info!

It sucks... haha, Even google has cloud services which are way better if you ask me.

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To the moon?

I had no idea Amazon has cloud computing services, wow. Thanks for the info!

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Whatever you use be sure to scrub data before you abandon or cancel your VPS or the next user may be able to recover it
https://github.com/fog/fog/issues/2525

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Quote from: coinrevo on January 25, 2014, 03:12:23 PM

at digitalocean you can run a node for 5$/month (with added swap space). probably cheaper.

i agree, aws is expensive sometimes, and not that much more reliable.
ive had many websites down on aws

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Quote from: coinrevo on January 25, 2014, 03:12:23 PM

at digitalocean you can run a node for 5$/month (with added swap space). probably cheaper.

would that be enough for a fully functional node with all the normal traffic of a website ? I believe they offer 1 TB of traffic with $5/month package.

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at digitalocean you can run a node for 5$/month (with added swap space). probably cheaper.

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Sorry newguy05.

Its about 16gb for the blocks folder alone:

root@i .bitcoin]# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/xvde1 30G 19G 11G 65% /
none 296M 0 296M 0% /dev/shm

[root@i .bitcoin]# du -chs
17G .
17G total

Kosta

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Quote from: kostagr33k on January 20, 2014, 01:23:02 AM

I actually did this last week. It took days, and I kept blowing away my bitcoind while tweaking things.

I eventually gave in and downloaded the torrent for the recent blocks, but even that took a long time to import, as Disk IO on the micro instances is very limited as well as CPU instances ... Note that the Micro instance is not guaranteed performance as it is their "free" tier"

I eventually went to a m1.large for the two day period to sync all blocks, and now seems to be working fine on the Micro instance once it caught up and I reverted.

kosta

Thanks guys, Kosta do you know the approx disk space requirement after bitcoind is synced up?

I get 30 gb ebs for free, so unmounted the default 8gb and created a new 21 gb mount to use for bitcoind, hope that is enough space.

This to me is one of the biggest shortfalls of bitcoin as time goes on, imagine 30 years from now and when bitcoin actually becomes popular, you almost need to buy hardware with all the blocks preloaded otherwise no retail users can ever catch up.

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Quote from: newguy05 on January 23, 2014, 12:41:19 PM

Quote from: moni3z on January 23, 2014, 12:32:59 AM

You can run this Go implementation of bitcoind with google app engine but who knows what the costs will be. It purposely doesn't include wallet functionaity though https://github.com/conformal/btcd the wallet is here https://github.com/conformal/btcwallet

interesting i will take a look, yeah i looked at google app engine first but it's not a true vps like aws and has limitations in place that prevent bitcoind to run easily without some major tinkering.

In the end i think a regular vps is still my best(economical) option to keep bicoind running 24/7. Something like linode that cost $20 a month and not have to worry about i/o limits etc...

Which vps do you use ? cause other server options like digital ocean, rackspace, etc have bandwidth limitations.

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Quote from: moni3z on January 23, 2014, 12:32:59 AM

You can run this Go implementation of bitcoind with google app engine but who knows what the costs will be. It purposely doesn't include wallet functionaity though https://github.com/conformal/btcd the wallet is here https://github.com/conformal/btcwallet

interesting i will take a look, yeah i looked at google app engine first but it's not a true vps like aws and has limitations in place that prevent bitcoind to run easily without some major tinkering.

In the end i think a regular vps is still my best(economical) option to keep bicoind running 24/7. Something like linode that cost $20 a month and not have to worry about i/o limits etc...

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You can run this Go implementation of bitcoind with google app engine but who knows what the costs will be. It purposely doesn't include wallet functionaity though https://github.com/conformal/btcd the wallet is here https://github.com/conformal/btcwallet

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Quote from: newguy05 on January 20, 2014, 01:04:39 PM

--snip--
This to me is one of the biggest shortfalls of bitcoin as time goes on, imagine 30 years from now and when bitcoin actually becomes popular, you almost need to buy hardware with all the blocks preloaded otherwise no retail users can ever catch up.
--snip--

Really? Do you not think connection speeds will increase? That seems to me like it might be some serious short-sightedness on you part if I'm honest...

Luckily the architect did not envision that **every** user requires a full copy of the blockchain, only enough to keep it decentralised. Prefessionals, hobbyists and those with the spare resources may keep full purchase ledgers, while "average Joe's" will use light/SPV clients.

/topic derailment.

Also, nice work hosting a bitcoind instance on EC2! Wink

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Quote from: newguy05 on January 20, 2014, 02:24:22 PM

ah crap i am already getting billed by amazon for I/O charges and i am only at the 9M difficulty level, this may not be such a bright idea after all, probably just going to stick with regular dedicated vps for 20 bucks a month

EBS
$0.00 for the first 2 million I/O requests under monthly free tier   2,000,000 IOs(used)   $0.00(charge)
$0.10 per 1 million I/O requests   2,393,049 IOs(used)   $0.24(charge)
Total:   $0.24

told ya not everything is "free" in the "Free tier".

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ah crap i am already getting billed by amazon for I/O charges and i am only at the 9M difficulty level, this may not be such a bright idea after all, probably just going to stick with regular dedicated vps for 20 bucks a month

EBS
$0.00 for the first 2 million I/O requests under monthly free tier   2,000,000 IOs(used)   $0.00(charge)
$0.10 per 1 million I/O requests   2,393,049 IOs(used)   $0.24(charge)
Total:   $0.24

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Quote from: kostagr33k on January 20, 2014, 01:23:02 AM

I actually did this last week. It took days, and I kept blowing away my bitcoind while tweaking things.

I eventually gave in and downloaded the torrent for the recent blocks, but even that took a long time to import, as Disk IO on the micro instances is very limited as well as CPU instances ... Note that the Micro instance is not guaranteed performance as it is their "free" tier"

I eventually went to a m1.large for the two day period to sync all blocks, and now seems to be working fine on the Micro instance once it caught up and I reverted.

kosta

Thanks guys, Kosta do you know the approx disk space requirement after bitcoind is synced up?

I get 30 gb ebs for free, so unmounted the default 8gb and created a new 21 gb mount to use for bitcoind, hope that is enough space.

This to me is one of the biggest shortfalls of bitcoin as time goes on, imagine 30 years from now and when bitcoin actually becomes popular, you almost need to buy hardware with all the blocks preloaded otherwise no retail users can ever catch up.

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