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Topic: Running bitcoind on Amazon AWS (EC2) help (Read 3875 times)

jlp
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February 07, 2014, 11:10:14 PM
#26
Linode is cheaper and better if you dont need all the various services provided by AWS. AWS is overpriced.

I just found this:  http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/networks/thousands-of-bitcoins-stolen-in-a-hack-on-linode

Thieves stole Bitcoin from Linode clients.  If Linode is insecure, then shouldn't it be last choice for hosting?  Which hosting company, that provides virtual Linux servers, is secure?
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February 07, 2014, 10:10:41 PM
#25
Linode is cheaper and better if you dont need all the various services provided by AWS. AWS is overpriced.
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February 07, 2014, 10:08:17 PM
#24
On AWS you can create a Snapshot of your Machine, something AMI don't know exactly.
But i save all my Machines as Snapshots saves some Time.
jlp
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February 07, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
#23
Aws has it's advantages, it takes away a lot of the security headaches and give a true global distributed footprint to any startup, allowing them to deploy nodes all over the world for fast access. Trying to do all that on your own is a nightmare.

But i really hate their pricing structure, nick and dime you for every little resource usage.

I am currently using linode.com, $20 a month true root access, no issues.

Did you find linode.com to be cheaper and better overall than AWS?

Do you plan on running your web app and bitcoind on one or two remote servers?
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January 26, 2014, 09:30:04 PM
#22
Aws has it's advantages, it takes away a lot of the security headaches and give a true global distributed footprint to any startup, allowing them to deploy nodes all over the world for fast access. Trying to do all that on your own is a nightmare.

But i really hate their pricing structure, nick and dime you for every little resource usage.

I am currently using linode.com, $20 a month true root access, no issues.

They just charged me a free trial for 103 dollars, I contacted them already.
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January 26, 2014, 09:27:05 PM
#21
Aws has it's advantages, it takes away a lot of the security headaches and give a true global distributed footprint to any startup, allowing them to deploy nodes all over the world for fast access. Trying to do all that on your own is a nightmare.

But i really hate their pricing structure, nick and dime you for every little resource usage.

I am currently using linode.com, $20 a month true root access, no issues.
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January 26, 2014, 05:48:47 AM
#20
I had no idea Amazon has cloud computing services, wow. Thanks for the info!
It sucks... haha, Even google has cloud services which are way better if you ask me.
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January 25, 2014, 09:35:16 PM
#19
I had no idea Amazon has cloud computing services, wow. Thanks for the info!
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January 25, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
#18
Whatever you use be sure to scrub data before you abandon or cancel your VPS or the next user may be able to recover it
https://github.com/fog/fog/issues/2525
newbie
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January 25, 2014, 07:40:45 PM
#17
at digitalocean you can run a node for 5$/month (with added swap space). probably cheaper.

i agree, aws is expensive sometimes, and not that much more reliable.
ive had many websites down on aws
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January 25, 2014, 03:31:05 PM
#16
at digitalocean you can run a node for 5$/month (with added swap space). probably cheaper.

would that be enough for a fully functional node with all the normal traffic of a website ? I believe they offer 1 TB of traffic with $5/month package.
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January 25, 2014, 02:12:23 PM
#15
at digitalocean you can run a node for 5$/month (with added swap space). probably cheaper.
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January 25, 2014, 01:50:58 PM
#14
Sorry newguy05.

Its about 16gb for the blocks folder alone:

root@i .bitcoin]# df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/xvde1       30G   19G   11G  65% /
none            296M     0  296M   0% /dev/shm

[root@i .bitcoin]# du -chs
17G   .
17G   total


Kosta

I actually did this last week. It took days, and I kept blowing away my bitcoind while tweaking things.

I eventually gave in and downloaded the torrent for the recent blocks, but even that took a long time to import, as Disk IO on the micro instances is very limited as well as CPU instances ... Note that the Micro instance is not guaranteed performance as it is their "free" tier"

I eventually went to a m1.large for the two day period to sync all blocks, and now seems to be working fine on the Micro instance once it caught up and I reverted.

kosta

Thanks guys, Kosta do you know the approx disk space requirement after bitcoind is synced up?

I get 30 gb ebs for free, so unmounted the default 8gb and created a new 21 gb mount to use for bitcoind, hope that is enough space.

This to me is one of the biggest shortfalls of bitcoin as time goes on, imagine 30 years from now and when bitcoin actually becomes popular, you almost need to buy hardware with all the blocks preloaded otherwise no retail users can ever catch up.
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January 25, 2014, 03:01:39 AM
#13
You can run this Go implementation of bitcoind with google app engine but who knows what the costs will be. It purposely doesn't include wallet functionaity though https://github.com/conformal/btcd the wallet is here https://github.com/conformal/btcwallet

interesting i will take a look, yeah i looked at google app engine first but it's not a true vps like aws and has limitations in place that prevent bitcoind to run easily without some major tinkering.

In the end i think a regular vps is still my best(economical) option to keep bicoind running 24/7. Something like linode that cost $20 a month and not have to worry about i/o limits etc...

Which vps do you use ? cause other server options like digital ocean, rackspace, etc have bandwidth limitations.
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January 23, 2014, 11:41:19 AM
#12
You can run this Go implementation of bitcoind with google app engine but who knows what the costs will be. It purposely doesn't include wallet functionaity though https://github.com/conformal/btcd the wallet is here https://github.com/conformal/btcwallet

interesting i will take a look, yeah i looked at google app engine first but it's not a true vps like aws and has limitations in place that prevent bitcoind to run easily without some major tinkering.

In the end i think a regular vps is still my best(economical) option to keep bicoind running 24/7. Something like linode that cost $20 a month and not have to worry about i/o limits etc...
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January 22, 2014, 11:32:59 PM
#11
You can run this Go implementation of bitcoind with google app engine but who knows what the costs will be. It purposely doesn't include wallet functionaity though https://github.com/conformal/btcd the wallet is here https://github.com/conformal/btcwallet
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January 22, 2014, 11:22:02 AM
#10
--snip--
This to me is one of the biggest shortfalls of bitcoin as time goes on, imagine 30 years from now and when bitcoin actually becomes popular, you almost need to buy hardware with all the blocks preloaded otherwise no retail users can ever catch up.
--snip--

Really? Do you not think connection speeds will increase? That seems to me like it might be some serious short-sightedness on you part if I'm honest...

Luckily the architect did not envision that **every** user requires a full copy of the blockchain, only enough to keep it decentralised. Prefessionals, hobbyists and those with the spare resources may keep full purchase ledgers, while "average Joe's" will use light/SPV clients.

/topic derailment.

Also, nice work hosting a bitcoind instance on EC2!  Wink
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January 22, 2014, 05:35:51 AM
#9
ah crap i am already getting billed by amazon for I/O charges and i am only at the 9M difficulty level, this may not be such a bright idea after all, probably just going to stick with regular dedicated vps for 20 bucks a month


EBS
$0.00 for the first 2 million I/O requests under monthly free tier   2,000,000 IOs(used)   $0.00(charge)
$0.10 per 1 million I/O requests   2,393,049 IOs(used)   $0.24(charge)
Total:   $0.24

told ya not everything is "free" in the "Free tier".
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January 20, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
#8
ah crap i am already getting billed by amazon for I/O charges and i am only at the 9M difficulty level, this may not be such a bright idea after all, probably just going to stick with regular dedicated vps for 20 bucks a month


EBS
$0.00 for the first 2 million I/O requests under monthly free tier   2,000,000 IOs(used)   $0.00(charge)
$0.10 per 1 million I/O requests   2,393,049 IOs(used)   $0.24(charge)
Total:   $0.24
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January 20, 2014, 12:04:39 PM
#7
I actually did this last week. It took days, and I kept blowing away my bitcoind while tweaking things.

I eventually gave in and downloaded the torrent for the recent blocks, but even that took a long time to import, as Disk IO on the micro instances is very limited as well as CPU instances ... Note that the Micro instance is not guaranteed performance as it is their "free" tier"

I eventually went to a m1.large for the two day period to sync all blocks, and now seems to be working fine on the Micro instance once it caught up and I reverted.

kosta

Thanks guys, Kosta do you know the approx disk space requirement after bitcoind is synced up?

I get 30 gb ebs for free, so unmounted the default 8gb and created a new 21 gb mount to use for bitcoind, hope that is enough space.

This to me is one of the biggest shortfalls of bitcoin as time goes on, imagine 30 years from now and when bitcoin actually becomes popular, you almost need to buy hardware with all the blocks preloaded otherwise no retail users can ever catch up.
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