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Quote from: fiulpro on March 04, 2022, 08:15:45 AM

Let's not talk about the nuclear power plant in Ukraine, it's the biggest plant in the whole of Europe and at the same time if something happens there the results could be as worse as Chernobyl*10 which does mean that the destruction and take centuries to recover, I do think that people, animals, everything will die in a massive radius and this would also affect Russia as well, the radioactive sand and wind would make it so much worse for everyone. People are fleeing to the west but soon enough it might not work for them as well, the only region that would be safe from the nuclear poisoning would be precarpathian region and this would exhaust everything in Ukraine. This might be the last straw since now Belarus and Kazakhstan are also considering joining the war against Ukraine therefore we might be in for world war 3. This is terrible.

Why not? When this is also a serious issue and it is still related to the war that were happening now. I am familiar with nuclear but not really into its effects, the way you describe it looks so scary. Now, I know why Russia has been targeting it because this can make their work easier as the destruction covered with this is too wide but did Russia already forget that it can also affect them or their own country? They are truly insane if they still want this to happen.

Another bad thing is if there are two countries that will join the war against Ukraine. The more we want the war to stop the more it gets worst. Oh god, what in the world is happening now.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on March 04, 2022, 09:36:36 AM

Putin wants Zelensky out of government and he is doing everything to achieve that aim

Putin says he wants to demilitarize Ukrainian, but he said yesterday that the more they penetrate Ukraine the more the ambition will change, but above all, it is still that he wants Ukraine to fall in a way the Ukraine will completely be controlled by Russia. That man has done more than harming, many people have died because of this war. If Nato can give Russia this advantage, I will expect China to be planning to take over Taiwan and also Russia ambition can be beyond taking over Ukraine.

The war and advantage that Russia is taking over Ukraine is that Ukraine not in NATO countries. It is not part of NATO and that make it that NATO can't stand for them on the war. They can support them with some sanctions but not that they do join the war and fight Russia. This is a call of example to countries who are standing alone on there own to join groups or aligns so in the times of fighting then they can get help physically.

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Quote from: Accardo on March 04, 2022, 04:06:11 AM

President Putin is making a reckless move that will cost so many lives in Europe and taking the war towards a nuclear power plant is not a proper step. What kind of intention does he have for the Europeans? Although the power plant was not affected because the Ukrainian Military intervened but, it's a huge risk for the world to sit back and watch such a trait on a nuclear reactor. The blast will cause a lot of catastrophe.

Currently, Russia target of conquering Ukraine has not been realized, while the Russian economy is slowly starting to experience a worsening crisis. Where will they get the food supplies for the soldiers to be able to successfully conquer Ukraine? or will run out of stock before that happens. there are several reasons why until now Ukraine is difficult to penetrate, first, the Russian army does not recognize the battlefield and the location of the snipers that have been prepared by Ukraine. Putin was briefly overwhelmed and now the invasion also deviates from the original plan for a 7-day ambush to overthrow power. Both Ukraine owns the media, and process all the news with the United States and NATO who have access to manage information. Many Russian media are blocked so that access to information will be minimal.

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Quote from: adaseb on March 03, 2022, 11:13:11 PM

Yeah I was watching the markets when all of a sudden crypto and stock markets are going down rapidly. Then I checked the news and they said they blew up a nuclear reactor. However as time went on there was more and more reports coming in that the news is false.

Can you provide that link here? I have not found any reports that are news false. It would be terrible if the Zaporizhzhya nuclear plant exploded.
There is a report after the second negotiation, the two countries have agreed to establish a humanitarian corridor and the possibility of a ceasefire. These are significant steps forward, hopefully they will soon reach an agreement and end the war.

It was actually the Zaporizhzhia which been attack by Russia and this is really terrible action made by them since this can totally ignite the nuclear war towards this country

Check this link for the news https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/03/04/russia-ukraine-latest-updates.html

Putin is so aggressive to cease Ukraine and take the control of that country. Hopefully he will be enlightened that this is to much and many civilians are already suffering towards his decision made.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on March 04, 2022, 09:36:36 AM

Putin wants Zelensky out of government and he is doing everything to achieve that aim

Putin says he wants to demilitarize Ukrainian, but he said yesterday that the more they penetrate Ukraine the more the ambition will change, but above all, it is still that he wants Ukraine to fall in a way the Ukraine will completely be controlled by Russia. That man has done more than harming, many people have died because of this war. If Nato can give Russia this advantage, I will expect China to be planning to take over Taiwan and also Russia ambition can be beyond taking over Ukraine.

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Quote from: adaseb on March 03, 2022, 11:13:11 PM

Either way, not smart or normal to have a war zone near a nuclear reactor. No idea what is going thru their minds.

It is nothing more than destruction and to take over the government of Ukraine. Putin wants Zelensky out of government and he is doing everything to achieve that aim. He sent new reinforcement that is looking more fierce and powerful and that made kherson to fall yesterday. The effect of the Russian Army is now seriously felt in Ukraine and blowing up the nuclear power plant is going to be devastating effect on Ukraine.

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Quote from: adaseb on March 03, 2022, 11:13:11 PM

Either way, not smart or normal to have a war zone near a nuclear reactor. No idea what is going thru their minds.

I don't know what they are thinking. If a Chernobyl-type nuclear event occurs, it will also affect Russia. Maybe it's like saying to the world: "be careful, our nuclear threat is serious". But it will affect them, so I don't understand it very well. And does Putin believe that if radioactivity from that plant reaches Russia he will have more popular support? Or does he not care?

Putin doesn't care, he doesn't look it either, he is full of vengeance and will do anything possible to punish Ukraine, if he cares he would have seized fire by now with all the sanctions slammed on Russia, the currency is falling, the economy is bad but he doesn't seem to be worried about any of those. I sincerely hope the news is not true, that will be detrimental.

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For those who want more specifics, here you go

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60613438

Seems like Russia took control of the nuclear plant, and the one that was bombed was, thankfully, not the nuclear reactors themselves. I have no idea who the bloody hell initiated the idea but he's a madman in the realm of madmen, that could've made an entire country disappear off the face of the planet. I don't know if they accurately planned on the shelling (I hope they did, that at least leaves them with still a bit of reasoning ), but just the act of doing it, even if it was planned to avoid the plant itself, is enough to condemn them, much more than it is right now.

It doesn't seem like there were big changes to the market itself, it still looks like the steady movement we've always seen. I'd still on the opinion that the market would only react positively to anything that plays out with the war, whatever it may be.

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Let's not talk about the nuclear power plant in Ukraine, it's the biggest plant in the whole of Europe and at the same time if something happens there the results could be as worse as Chernobyl*10 which does mean that the destruction and take centuries to recover, I do think that people, animals, everything will die in a massive radius and this would also affect Russia as well, the radioactive sand and wind would make it so much worse for everyone. People are fleeing to the west but soon enough it might not work for them as well, the only region that would be safe from the nuclear poisoning would be precarpathian region and this would exhaust everything in Ukraine. This might be the last straw since now Belarus and Kazakhstan are also considering joining the war against Ukraine therefore we might be in for world war 3. This is terrible.

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I do not want to talk about the details of the accident because it is a political and military issue given the developments in that region, but let's talk about the economic details if a nuclear accident occurs.

I do not expect the price to react negatively, especially since even if that incident happened, it would not lead to a world war and therefore energy prices would increase, which means an increase in inflation, including an increase in stocks and digital currencies.

Quote from: adaseb on March 03, 2022, 11:13:11 PM

Yeah I was watching the markets when all of a sudden crypto and stock markets are going down rapidly. Then I checked the news and they said they blew up a nuclear reactor. However as time went on there was more and more reports coming in that the news is false.

There is no direct correlation to the Bitcoin price change by about 3%, which is normal in the market.

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There is a video clip on the news channels that shows how the Russian forces shoot at the nuclear reactor blocks. Then the fire starts and the shooting continues. Had that reactor exploded it would have had catastrophic results. I am just glad that the fire was put out in time.

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This is a dangerous move that could hurt people around the world, and doing something we should consider the consequences.
It may be that Russia wants to reduce Ukraine's combat power, but this is undoubtedly an irrational move. Everyone is very concerned about the war, and I hope the war can end soon. Don't let innocent people die.

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The media is running rampant with a story that are not entirely true. They did not attack the actual plant it self, but one of the out buildings. So the power plant is still intact and in a working order.

Russia cannot afford to take over the Ukraine with another Chernobyl disaster happening in one of their nuclear power plants. This power plant supplies almost 25% of the Ukraine's power, so it is a key target for the Russians to control. Wink

Also, if this power plant explodes... the Nuclear fallout will also reach Russia and the rest of Europe and that will end Putin's reign, because his own people will remove him from power. Wink

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Quote from: Accardo on March 04, 2022, 04:06:11 AM

President Putin is making a reckless move that will cost so many lives in Europe and taking the war towards a nuclear power plant is not a proper step. What kind of intention does he have for the Europeans? Although the power plant was not affected because the Ukrainian Military intervened but, it's a huge risk for the world to sit back and watch such a trait on a nuclear reactor. The blast will cause a lot of catastrophe.

It seems that Russia has now started targeting vital facilities belonging to Ukraine and one of them is the nuclear power plant, to be honest I can't imagine if the reactor exploded, because according to the Ukrainian foreign minister, the power plant has 6 reactors which contain materials nuclear fuel, if the six reactors exploded, of course, it would cause many victims and even 10 times bigger than the Chernobyl explosion that occurred in 1986, the Chernobyl explosion resulted in 350,000 local residents having to out 10 to 30 kilometers from the center of the Chernobyl explosion and imagine if blow up the power plant 10 times bigger Cry

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This could very well be an accident and not the exact target. I mean, I imagine the Russian army wants to take control of the plant, but I doubt they have plans to destroy it because that would have a serious radiation release that would actually hurt the Russians. What I am seeing is that the Russian army is full of kids playing with guns, and I wouldn't rule out a stupid miscalculation here. Glad to see the firefighters have that under control because this is no less scary than all-out nuclear war, at least for us Europeans.

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Quote from: Accardo on March 04, 2022, 04:06:11 AM

President Putin is making a reckless move that will cost so many lives in Europe and taking the war towards a nuclear power plant is not a proper step. What kind of intention does he have for the Europeans? Although the power plant was not affected because the Ukrainian Military intervened but, it's a huge risk for the world to sit back and watch such a trait on a nuclear reactor. The blast will cause a lot of catastrophe.

His intentions is to instigate other countries into joining in the fight because he wants to make sure that he's going to launch his missiles and he's old so he's going senile. He wants to make as much damage in Ukraine as much as possible in the case that his invasion fails. He's doing a mini scorch earth policy.

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President Putin is making a reckless move that will cost so many lives in Europe and taking the war towards a nuclear power plant is not a proper step. What kind of intention does he have for the Europeans? Although the power plant was not affected because the Ukrainian Military intervened but, it's a huge risk for the world to sit back and watch such a trait on a nuclear reactor. The blast will cause a lot of catastrophe.

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Quote from: Poker Player on March 04, 2022, 03:19:50 AM

I don't know what they are thinking. If a Chernobyl-type nuclear event occurs, it will also affect Russia. Maybe it's like saying to the world: "be careful, our nuclear threat is serious". But it will affect them, so I don't understand it very well. And does Putin believe that if radioactivity from that plant reaches Russia he will have more popular support? Or does he not care?

nuclear is the most dangerous weapon on this world, so i cant imagine how much area it can destroy in Ukraine and surely Russia will be affected on the impact if they release it since their country is very close.

Putin is out or his mind if he do that because it's really a serious matter that can take so many lives even innocent people.

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Quote from: adaseb on March 03, 2022, 11:13:11 PM

Either way, not smart or normal to have a war zone near a nuclear reactor. No idea what is going thru their minds.

I don't know what they are thinking. If a Chernobyl-type nuclear event occurs, it will also affect Russia. Maybe it's like saying to the world: "be careful, our nuclear threat is serious". But it will affect them, so I don't understand it very well. And does Putin believe that if radioactivity from that plant reaches Russia he will have more popular support? Or does he not care?

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Quote from: adaseb on March 03, 2022, 11:13:11 PM

Yeah I was watching the markets when all of a sudden crypto and stock markets are going down rapidly. Then I checked the news and they said they blew up a nuclear reactor. However as time went on there was more and more reports coming in that the news is false.

Can you provide that link here? I have not found any reports that are news false. It would be terrible if the Zaporizhzhya nuclear plant exploded.
There is a report after the second negotiation, the two countries have agreed to establish a humanitarian corridor and the possibility of a ceasefire. These are significant steps forward, hopefully they will soon reach an agreement and end the war.

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