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Quote from: Hazir on July 22, 2014, 06:36:36 PM

Why are you discussing GDP when the real question is far away? Putin is not saint, everyone knows that. He is sponsoring Ukrainian Rebeliants that is for sure and the most believable scenario is that they shoot down that plane...

Cause your view on economics define most of your view on politics. If you are against cronyism, you can't support Russia.

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Quote from: Alex077 on July 21, 2014, 05:29:33 AM

Michael Fallon, who was promoted by David Cameron on Tuesday, accused Russia of “sponsored terrorism” in supporting pro-Moscow separatists, who have been accused of bringing down the Malaysian Airlines jet carrying 298 people.

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I think generally politicians should not be making such comments until the investigation has been conducted. I don't understand what Russia has to do with it anyway? And separatists, even if they are involved in it, have so far co-operated with everybody there and sent the black boxes to the investigators.

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Quote from: tee-rex on July 22, 2014, 01:19:55 PM

Quote from: hologram on July 22, 2014, 01:00:42 PM

Quote from: tee-rex on July 22, 2014, 11:56:52 AM

But nevertheless, if I'm not mistaken, about half of the increase in the world GDP during the last century is not due to productivity gains but thanks to increases in human lifespan. Don't know if this information is correct (and to what degree), but it is beyond any doubt that humans today live much longer than they lived even 100 years ago.

It's annual GDP per capita... Try again.

Try again what? Per capita here refers to all living humans (including old men and infants), right?

Even though people are living longer they tend to retire at the same age. People have also been retiring at earlier ages in recent years. When someone retires they are not producing any goods or services (what GDP measures)

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Why are you discussing GDP when the real question is far away? Putin is not saint, everyone knows that. He is sponsoring Ukrainian Rebeliants that is for sure and the most believable scenario is that they shoot down that plane...

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Quote from: chopstick on July 21, 2014, 09:00:57 PM

Yes, let's accuse more people of "terrorism". That War on Terror we had really worked out in our favor, didn't it? Iraq and Afghanistan are in such better shape now after we bombed the fuck out of them and killed hundreds of thousands of their civilians! And don't forget all that depleted uranium we used over there, certain populations in Iraq now have permanent mutations and birth defects that are not seen anywhere else in the world.

I don't think that hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed, I doubt it was even thousands of citizens. This is especially the case for Iraq as the country more or less fell peacefully but soldiers would attack after the country fell.

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Quote from: tee-rex on July 22, 2014, 03:05:25 PM

Quote from: hologram on July 22, 2014, 01:24:21 PM

yes, but GDP per capita have nothing to do with age of death...

You seriously contest the productivity gain of the last century ? The agro revolution ? informatics ?

I don't deny the gains in productivity in the last century, but you should understand that GDP per capita is also in direct proportion to the productive years of men (and yes, even an annual GDP per capita), which have increased significantly during the same period of time.

GDP has increased, but so has the debt. Part of the reason the wages kept rising is using paid money of the future..
Of course there were other reasons, but this could be a major contributor.

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Quote from: hologram on July 22, 2014, 01:24:21 PM

yes, but GDP per capita have nothing to do with age of death...

You seriously contest the productivity gain of the last century ? The agro revolution ? informatics ?

I don't deny the gains in productivity in the last century, but you should understand that GDP per capita is also in direct proportion to the productive years of men (and yes, even an annual GDP per capita), which have increased significantly during the same period of time.

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Quote from: Alex077 on July 21, 2014, 05:29:33 AM

Michael Fallon, who was promoted by David Cameron on Tuesday, accused Russia of “sponsored terrorism” in supporting pro-Moscow separatists, who have been accused of bringing down the Malaysian Airlines jet carrying 298 people.#

David Cameron, the guy of "If you want to see porn, you have to ask permission. We censor everything we want, both legal and illegal things.". What a hypocrite.

As for sponsoring violence.. both Europe/US and Russia are sponsoring violence and in effect destroying the Ukraine. I think many people in the eastern part of the Ukraine wants to be part of helped by Russia, the same for the US. In the long term, the people won't have a good economy if this continues though. A mass debt from IMF and crappy economic sancations.. the people of the Ukraine will get less free.

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yes, but GDP per capita have nothing to do with age of death...

You seriously contest the productivity gain of the last century ? The agro revolution ? informatics ?

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Quote from: hologram on July 22, 2014, 01:00:42 PM

Quote from: tee-rex on July 22, 2014, 11:56:52 AM

But nevertheless, if I'm not mistaken, about half of the increase in the world GDP during the last century is not due to productivity gains but thanks to increases in human lifespan. Don't know if this information is correct (and to what degree), but it is beyond any doubt that humans today live much longer than they lived even 100 years ago.

It's annual GDP per capita... Try again.

Try again what? Per capita here refers to all living humans (including old men and infants), right?

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Quote from: tee-rex on July 22, 2014, 11:56:52 AM

But nevertheless, if I'm not mistaken, about half of the increase in the world GDP during the last century is not due to productivity gains but thanks to increases in human lifespan. Don't know if this information is correct (and to what degree), but it is beyond any doubt that humans today live much longer than they lived even 100 years ago.

It's annual GDP per capita... Try again.

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He is a former member of the KGB. Old habits are hard to break.

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Quote from: hologram on July 22, 2014, 11:30:36 AM

1990 is you read well...

My bad! Can't read vertical texts. Cheesy

But nevertheless, if I'm not mistaken, about half of the increase in the world GDP during the last century is not due to productivity gains but thanks to increases in human lifespan. Don't know if this information is correct (and to what degree), but it is beyond any doubt that humans today live much longer than they lived even 100 years ago.

hologram

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1990 is you read well...

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Quote from: hologram on July 22, 2014, 07:31:33 AM

Quote from: allsopfree on July 21, 2014, 06:31:00 PM

this tells you nothing, it's meassured in $, which is under influence of...blahblah blah, we all know that this meassurment is not realistic.

Stop being stupid this is in constant dollar and in long term economic growth is driven by productivity gain...

I don't know what a 1900 international dollar means, would you care to explain?

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Quote from: allsopfree on July 21, 2014, 06:31:00 PM

this tells you nothing, it's meassured in $, which is under influence of...blahblah blah, we all know that this meassurment is not realistic.

Stop being stupid this is in constant dollar and in long term economic growth is driven by productivity gain...

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Sponsoring terrorism always a double edges sword.

Look at what al qaeda did to US.

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Yes, let's accuse more people of "terrorism". That War on Terror we had really worked out in our favor, didn't it? Iraq and Afghanistan are in such better shape now after we bombed the fuck out of them and killed hundreds of thousands of their civilians! And don't forget all that depleted uranium we used over there, certain populations in Iraq now have permanent mutations and birth defects that are not seen anywhere else in the world.

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Quote from: hologram on July 21, 2014, 12:53:36 PM

Quote from: Balthazar on July 21, 2014, 12:37:42 PM

It's getting ridiculous. Well, maybe eventually you will notice that liberal dictocracy is far worse than anything.

What do you call liberal ?

Anyway even if i'm not a progressive i prefer live in some progressive western country rather than in the failed rest of the world. Better condition of live and more liberty.

And without the west way of thinking about freedom this website would not exist and the world would be in the same shit than few century ago.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_GDP_per_capita_1500_to_2003.png

this tells you nothing, it's meassured in $, which is under influence of...blahblah blah, we all know that this meassurment is not realistic.

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