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Topic: Russia to Drop USD as reserve currency - could mean 5000+ USD bitcoins - page 2. (Read 10450 times)

legendary
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Q.

What made the dollar attractive?
A.

It’s simple: there are no good alternatives to the dollar.



Not true anymore, there is hundreds of cryptocoins, each single one could do the job all by itself. Global money supply would fit into BTC, DOGE or even MOON.

Just wait until the first tech-savvy political leader discusses that in public (he may of course have a bad accident)  Wink
legendary
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For you traitors and morons trash talking the USD, the United States of America  is the number 2 in exporter in the world:

The US in 2014 or 2015 will be the number one oil exporter at some point !?

Yes Sir only traitors and terrorists on this forum!

Now about the morons, I am not sure, you seem to be one of them because you don't realize that all those exports you listed, are already subtracted from the imports, that is why it's called a TRADE DEFICIT

And that DEFICIT is covered by selling USD debt to the world. Only the USA can do that because USD is a world currency. If EUR or BTC or the BANCOR became world currency the USA will be in trouble (fracking doesn't work forever). Sure there is always the military option for smaller, defenseless countries.

Russia is not one of them.

(having said that, a lot of US products are great and I do not want to live under Russian rule, but the USD being a world currency is extremely unfair and should stop ASAP)
newbie
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I think we in the UK are in the same Boat as the USA.
UK - Main export? fuck knows. Office worker types no doubt.
UK & US have the same main exports - corrupt "democracy" and conflict.
hero member
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Nope..
full member
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LOL sanctions. It's amazing how brainwashed Americans are by their media, Russia has palladium, gas, oil as well as plenty of resources with intrinsic value that will always find buyers, America has nothing but fancy toilet paper with heads of dead presidents printed on it and that toilet paper is only worth something because other countries are foolish enough to exchange Gold for it, let the corrupt and jealous keep fighting against liberty and freedom. See how far it will take them.


Yeah what he said.
Lets all stop poking this Russian bear before it bites back.
hero member
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For you traitors and morons trash talking the USD, the United States of America  is the number 2 in exporter in the world:

United States Top 10 Exports:

The following export product groups represent the highest dollar value in American global shipments during 2013. Also shown is the percentage share each export category represents in terms of US overall exports.

Machinery: $213,108,199,000 (13.5% of total exports)
Electronic equipment: $165,604,449,000 (10.5%)
Mineral fuels including oil: $148,426,743,000 (9.4%)
Vehicles excluding trains and streetcars: $133,640,479,000 (8.5%)
Aircraft and spacecraft: $115,380,944,000 (7.3%)
Optical, technical and medical apparatus: $84,281,276,000 (5.3%)
Pearls, precious stones, precious metals and coins: $72,830,232,000 (4.6%)
Plastics: $60,836,970,000 (3.9%)
Organic chemicals: $46,510,903,000 (2.9%)
Pharmaceutical products: $39,742,717,000 (2.5%)

To compete in the world economy the dollar needs to be weak!

The US in 2014 or 2015 will be the number one oil exporter at some point !?
legendary
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UK main industry is financial services

Now with the Isle of Man allowing unregulated exchanges, there could be a huge pipeline fiat---->btc, protected by the Crown.
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged

I think we in the UK are in the same Boat as the USA.
UK - Main export? fuck knows. Office worker types no doubt.

I believe I'm correct in saying that our main export to the rest of the world is god-awful reality tv shows and some shitty gameshows too.    Grin  


It wont matter, they can drop what ever they want, sanctions will screw them.

Pfft... as if.  It took years before sanctions had even the slightest impact on Iran, so any effect on Russia will barely be noticeable.  "Sanctions" is just a modern day word for "Posturing".
legendary
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Russia dropping the USD as a reserve currency doesn't mean anything, considering Russia doesn't have much sway in that regard. I doubt you would see 5k Bitcoin because of that.

Correct, they don't have much USD. It is the idea that is so dangerous! Domino effect! This is why Iraq was attacked, they wanted to sell oil for EUR which was a massive threat to USD superiority and USA business model. So they got a lesson.

Now trouble with Russia is they got nukes, so Uncle Sam will have troubles invading them.

Russia could start selling oil/gas for crypto, which would mean $5000+ Bitcoins and massive threat to USD/USA. They won't do that IMHO because the ruble is fiat, and fiat is power over people, but you never know. Selling oil/gas for EUR would be enough to devalue USD quite a bit.
legendary
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anyone can ignore different trends of the past and only show 1 week, 2 weeks or 2 months. to make a prediction go in any direction they please.



economy is never a endless straight line. so dont draw straight lines forever, as your "trend"
so please use 4 years of trends and realise that we have only thus far grabbed the attention of 0.03% of the population. so my prediction (marked in blue below is what i feel will be the future.



please note the circled area's as similar activity followed by a stable price of only 50% variance, folloed by multiple hundreds of percent spikes..
full member
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Russia dropping the USD as a reserve currency doesn't mean anything, considering Russia doesn't have much sway in that regard. I doubt you would see 5k Bitcoin because of that.
sr. member
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Trend and price before 1 month:


Trend and price today:


See you again within a month with trend lines and current price.
hero member
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LOL sanctions. It's amazing how brainwashed Americans are by their media, Russia has palladium, gas, oil as well as plenty of resources with intrinsic value that will always find buyers, America has nothing but fancy toilet paper with heads of dead presidents printed on it and that toilet paper is only worth something because other countries are foolish enough to exchange Gold for it, let the corrupt and jealous keep fighting against liberty and freedom. See how far it will take them.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
All fiat currencies are a "scam".
Hopefully, BTC will continue as a real alternative.
member
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I doubt that russia and china team up to create a new currency, by doing this both parts needs to give up power. And as superpowercountries they would not. Also  they have interests of their own that not would go togheter. China is governed in a other way than russia. Russias gold is the oil, natural gas and other rawmaterials.

I highly doubt they will go the crypto route but then again you never know maybe the people will? but not the govs..... The most likely scenario is Russia and China will team up and they will start a new currency system backed by GOLD as both countries have been secretly stockpiling reserves over the years and have a larger stock pile then U.S and both countries have been slowly pulling away from the dollar because people are WAKING UP that the federal dollar is worthless with no end to it's printing and Inflation
There is also the possibility of them trying to form a World Currency and this is the excuse and push for it as Putin is also just a Puppet for the IMF bank like all these so called World LEADERS and they strive for a 1 world government. There is always someone pulling these strings as War is highly profitable and the best way to instill FEAR AND Propaganda and to keep people in line! as they make moves too solidify their secret agendas and ulterior motives an use this as a distraction for the One World Government..........
member
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Something tells me that if the Russians Drop the dollar then we all will be getting screwed in the long term.  I think the saying should be changed to people suffer for the lack of their political leaders knowledge.
Russia to abandon the dollar as a reserve currency is to resist the USA economic sanctions, not really want to give up.
full member
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It wont matter, they can drop what ever they want, sanctions will screw them.

I am not so sure. Let's see:

1. Russia - main export goods natgas, oil, palladium and so on - all things with intrinsic value. Harder to sell under US sanctions, but the market is there. Can be happily sold for other currencies or BTC.

2. USA - main export good is USD. No intrinsic value. Only accepted because other countries view it as THE currency. Can be replaced by any other form of numbers in computers.

Who is more vulnerable ... (both have nukes)?


I think we in the UK are in the same Boat as the USA.
UK - Main export? fuck knows. Office worker types no doubt.
hero member
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Vote 4fryn :)
Everyday bitcoin drops like anything. Today it reached $500 level. Price is going downwards only not upwards.

today the price went down to $470..  and now ................... $520

i call that an upward price..

so lets go extreme, tell me the price last year (march 2013) and tell me the price today
so lets go extreme, tell me the price last year (march 2012) and tell me the price today
so lets go extreme, tell me the price last year (march 2011) and tell me the price today

i can show you stats that in 2012 bitcoin went to $6 then dropped to $4, then went to $14 and dropped to $8 before rising even higher.

i can show u stats of 2013, blah blah blah..

in general the price does go up. and if you panic on the drops then please 'man up' and realise there are good and bad days. nothing is a utopian dream come true that is always perfect very day

That is true, I agree!
sr. member
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In 2011 when Bitcoins spiked to $32 or whatever then flash crashed down to $2, many people, probably the majority, just assumed that BTC was done. There was no reason to believe otherwise.

Bitcoin was at that point just seen as a passing fad that some geeks got excited about but ultimately was proved to be worthless and destined to fail. It was too volatile, too hard to understand. Nobody "needed it."

Why would you stay in "the scheme" at that point? You either cashed out big or lost big. It was over. Gonna be a slow dribble down top $0, but definitely over. "Nothing positive on the horizon" etc etc

All the smart money got out around then.

Well, almost all of it.  Wink

It was new then. It was easy to mine and cheap to buy. It's not new now. It's neither cheap to buy or mine. If you wanted some bitcoin back then you could easily mine yourself some with what you already owned especially if it was a decent gaming rig, that's not the case at all now.
Now it's an investment whichever way you choose to get them. A bigger decision.

It's still too geeky, too volatile, too hard to understand and not really needed as far as normal people are concerned when spending money buying things. Does your Mum use it? Could she? Would she? Would most people? Not really. That's what we need. Joe Public using bitcoin in the same way they use Paypal as easily as they use Paypal.
Most people here would be wary of leaving money in an exchange or online wallet, for obvious reasons, this is another serious drawback right now ...all people have seen lately is bitcoins going missing bigtime in a way they don't understand and probably we don't properly even after research, wallets vanishing and appearing at MtGox for example are hardly showing bitcoin in a good light are they?

Assuming all will magically come right because they will...nice idea, not certain at all. It takes something positive to happen I think.

I don't understand why people in the community spread rumours like the China one, which get picked up by a bored reporter on reddit or somewhere and contribute to the negativity? Even this U.S. thing is overblown when it really needs explaining honestly. People like to profit from the peaks and troughs in price IMO, so they do well short term...long term it's damaging trust and once people lose trust it's hard to recover it.

I just hope that we've had all the bad news and horror stories now, then maybe gradually we get the chance to recover momentum. If I'd told you a year ago about all the recent events, I doubt you'd believe most of them would happen. Smiley
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