2 soldiers of Russian Federaion killed.
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Why are they doing that? Why they are bombing another country?
Russia is being provoked to join the war in the Ukraine. They know they are being provoked so they have to sit tight.
Every time Russian Federation fire back to destroy attacking units.
Why are they doing that? Why they are bombing another country?
Russia is being provoked to join the war in the Ukraine. They know they are being provoked so they have to sit tight.
Russia is prepared for a war, if the west is pulling into Russia. It's similar to the cuba situation for Russia.. the US isn't too happy about rockets being put in Cuba, and neither is Russia about rockets being put in Poland or even in Ukraine.
And to be historically correct, the only reason Soviet Union was sending those rockets to Cuba in the first place, was because US placed their rockets in Turkey. The history seems to be repeating itself now...
Things are a lot more simple. Putin is making steps backwards thanks to the reaction of the international community and the sanctions which individuals, and slowly businesses from Russia are objected to. He knows clearly that on a new war with the Western world it's not necessarily the military force that would count, but the economical consequences of it. And that is a war which Russia will loose so badly that Putin will have to face not only with a war, but also with revolutions all across Russia which would be started by the deepest economical crisis Russia would have to face in his modern history.
Russia is prepared for a war, if the west is pulling into Russia. It's similar to the cuba situation for Russia.. the US isn't too happy about rockets being put in Cuba, and neither is Russia about rockets being put in Poland or even in Ukraine.
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In democracy, the voice of majority should rule, no matter if you don't really like, nor agree with it.
It should, but it doesn't. Its the voice of the minority that rules.. in the US, in Europe etc decisions are being made that are not in the interest of the people; Just take the mass surveillance crap for example, nobody asked for that. Democracy is dead in the US, Latin America and in Europe.
Things are a lot more simple. Putin is making steps backwards thanks to the reaction of the international community and the sanctions which individuals <...>
I guess it's safe to skip the rest part of your text, because I'll see nothing but copy&paste from CNN or FauxNews.
Things are a lot more simple. Putin is making steps backwards thanks to the reaction of the international community and the sanctions which individuals, and slowly businesses from Russia are objected to. He knows clearly that on a new war with the Western world it's not necessarily the military force that would count, but the economical consequences of it. And that is a war which Russia will loose so badly that Putin will have to face not only with a war, but also with revolutions all across Russia which would be started by the deepest economical crisis Russia would have to face in his modern history.
Now, the so called "rebels" know this, and they feel that Russia abandoned them. Everybody in Lugansk, Donetsk, etc. was thinking, hey let's do this, and then Russia will step in and do what they have done in Crimea. But now it's time for them to wake up to reality and face the fact that Russia will not make more tension with the Western world, and for the sake of these rebels and regions will not put in danger their sustainability, etc.
So the rebels are shooting some rockets towards Russia, in the hope that they will tell (and everybody will believe) that the Ucraine army fired those, so they force somehow a response from Russia. It will not work... they will not achieve what they want, Russia will not step in and send his military to back up the rebel forces.
They will be hunted down, anihilated and prosecuted, as they should be for all those men, women and children who already lost their lives for their stupidity; they have to pay for all the damage they have produced to families, for taking away homes, livelihoods, hope. In democracy, the voice of majority should rule, no matter if you don't really like, nor agree with it. Trying to enforce your position with weapons and with the cost of human lives should only be considered as crime, therefor using these should be considered as means of terror.
Now, the so called "rebels" know this, and they feel that Russia abandoned them. Everybody in Lugansk, Donetsk, etc. was thinking, hey let's do this, and then Russia will step in and do what they have done in Crimea. But now it's time for them to wake up to reality and face the fact that Russia will not make more tension with the Western world, and for the sake of these rebels and regions will not put in danger their sustainability, etc.
So the rebels are shooting some rockets towards Russia, in the hope that they will tell (and everybody will believe) that the Ucraine army fired those, so they force somehow a response from Russia. It will not work... they will not achieve what they want, Russia will not step in and send his military to back up the rebel forces.
They will be hunted down, anihilated and prosecuted, as they should be for all those men, women and children who already lost their lives for their stupidity; they have to pay for all the damage they have produced to families, for taking away homes, livelihoods, hope. In democracy, the voice of majority should rule, no matter if you don't really like, nor agree with it. Trying to enforce your position with weapons and with the cost of human lives should only be considered as crime, therefor using these should be considered as means of terror.
I don't see bright future for Ukraine because Russia will continue to pressure them and EU and USA will just talk but will not do anything, as always in the past.
Russia does not have much interests in Ukraine as a state. People, living in the East-Ukraine, on the other hand, have quite a lot of historical and economic interest in Russia.
At this point this informative article might be of help.
http://stanislavs.org/two-ukraines/
As for agendas, mine is to help at least a little in breaking the tangible information blockade from the West that befell this conflict.
FUD spread in that news
I can't help but think that most people on this forum that are posting Ukraine vs. Russia posts have some sort of agenda behind them. I think it's a fluid situation in that region and I bet even the US or major intelligence agencies don't know for sure what's going on there. Russia could be the one instigating and Ukraine is fighting for its own territory, or Ukraine could be making it look worse than it actually it to try to get support from US/Europe. Don't go blaming the US for everything, it's easy to do because it's biggest. They may not be perfect but neither is Russia.
Very good thinking, thank you for sharing.
In this conflict everybody have their own agenda, Ukraine, Russia, EU and USA and they are not playing fair.
EU promised a lot to the Ukraine if they switch from Russia to EU but didn't support them in the most critical moment, when conflict started.
At present moment I don't think that anybody in Ukraine government will be so crazy to attack Russia.
They are weaker and they understand this point very well.
They can try just soft war inside their borders with hope that Russia will not start open war against them in order to protect their interests in Ukraine.
I don't see bright future for Ukraine because Russia will continue to pressure them and EU and USA will just talk but will not do anything, as always in the past.
I can't help but think that most people on this forum that are posting Ukraine vs. Russia posts have some sort of agenda behind them. I think it's a fluid situation in that region and I bet even the US or major intelligence agencies don't know for sure what's going on there. Russia could be the one instigating and Ukraine is fighting for its own territory, or Ukraine could be making it look worse than it actually it to try to get support from US/Europe. Don't go blaming the US for everything, it's easy to do because it's biggest. They may not be perfect but neither is Russia.
Is Donetsk currently divided by Ukraine and Russia? Is there a wall that separates this two countries?
No these are two different cities:
In RF
In Ukraine
The distance between them is 219km
In English:
1 killed, 2 injured: Russia vows response to Ukraine shelling Russian city
http://rt.com/news/172404-russian-donetsk-shelled-victims/
The town that got shelled on the Russian territory is also called Donetsk. Someone dot disoriented?
Is Donetsk currently divided by Ukraine and Russia? Is there a wall that separates this two countries?
In English:
1 killed, 2 injured: Russia vows response to Ukraine shelling Russian city
http://rt.com/news/172404-russian-donetsk-shelled-victims/
The town that got shelled on the Russian territory is also called Donetsk. Someone dot disoriented?
Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs state that Ukrainian powers will be held directly responsible for any future shelling of Russian soil.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405022788
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405022788
Talk is cheap, waiting for the establishment of a demilitarized zone along the border.
Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs state that Ukrainian powers will be held directly responsible for any future shelling of Russian soil.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405022788
http://rusvesna.su/news/1405022788
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