Russian Fighters within reach of Denmark/Sweden Air Space.. AGAIN! - page 2.

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Quote from: NUFCrichard on March 25, 2015, 04:23:32 AM

Quote from: Hamuki on March 24, 2015, 02:38:56 PM

Russian Fighter planes flew in international Air space around Gotland and Bornholm.

International air space, i.e. it doesn't belong to anyone and anyone can fly through it without needing to let nearby countries know about it.
It is a non-event. If they fly into Danish or Swedish air space, then it will be an incident, but until then it is just complaining about someone doing nothing wrong.

The same goes for when they flew near the UK recently, near but not into our air space..

Then why do it without transponderes active?
Why did they deactivate them?

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Quote from: Hamuki on March 24, 2015, 02:38:56 PM

Russian Fighter planes flew in international Air space around Gotland and Bornholm.

International air space, i.e. it doesn't belong to anyone and anyone can fly through it without needing to let nearby countries know about it.
It is a non-event. If they fly into Danish or Swedish air space, then it will be an incident, but until then it is just complaining about someone doing nothing wrong.

The same goes for when they flew near the UK recently, near but not into our air space..

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Quote from: Hamuki on March 24, 2015, 02:38:56 PM

Russian Fighter planes flew in international Air space around Gotland and Bornholm.
The Russian fighters disabled their transponderes to avoid detection.

Danish and Italian Fighters where sent to intercept.

Cant find source on BBC.

But was found on Danish news site.

This comes only after a few days where russia threatned Denmark because we were upgrading our missile shield with the US on our Ships.

Thoughts?

~Hamuki

I think you could still refer to The Aviationist article about it.
What worried me more than the increased tempo of Russian training ops is the possible meanings of a sudden stop of the said ops; because this could be understood by outsiders as a rest & maintenance phase before actual, real, military operations.

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It's of course a show off to mark the territory after the recent incident "ambassador incident".
Danes wanted to participate in the missile shield? Comrade Putin will put their new systems to a test!

Its a deffence system.. Not an attack system.
Putin should stay out of Ukraine and should keep his fighters away from Swedish/Danish Air Space.

A russian fighter almost colided with a civilian aircraft in COPENHAGEN.
Getting that far into Danish Airspace should have had big consequenses.
The only reason why it got so far into the airspace was because it deactivated the transponder.

The only thing Putin is getting out from this is the anger from the Danish people.
And at some point one of their fighters will hopefully be shot down.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on March 24, 2015, 07:18:03 PM

international air space

I see.
First report was that they violated Danish air space but was called off a little later.
Thread edited.

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WRT the missile shield, it is inherently defensive to target a missile defense system in a mutually assured destruction environment. We are still in such an environment and will be for some time I hope (because it has proven stable unlike the alternative...just ask any of the many countries who have been squashed recently by the U.S...)

It goes without saying that anyone who allows their territory to be used for strategic military purposes becomes a target. All the Russian dude did was to chose to say it, and in what I thought was a pretty matter-of-fact way. It was probably doing the Danish population a favor since there will probably be a fair number of people who don't get it. What the population chooses to do after understanding things better is up to them.

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Sweden's Defence Minister Peter Hultqvist told TT that as the Russian jets were flying in international airspace, they had not broken any rules, but added that flying without a transponder was "inappropriate behaviour".

http://www.thelocal.se/20150324/russian-fighter-jets-spotted-off-sweden

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I have to take these reports with a grain of salt now. Although Russian fighters have violated foreign airspace before, I know of at least one time it was claimed to be Russian fighters by Sweden, who later admitted it was not Russian, but French.

Quote from: http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6020389

The Swedish Armed Forces has confirmed that a foreign aircraft entered Swedish airspace on Saturday, but says it was French and not Russian as initially reported by tabloid Expressen.

Swedish JAS Gripen fighter jets reportedly confronted the French plane over the weekend.

"I can confirm that a French plane was in Swedish airspace on Saturday," military spokesperson Jesper Tengroth told Expressen. He would not say why the plane was in Swedish territory.

The information about a new infringement comes almost exactly two months after another scandal when two Russian planes entered Swedish airspace. The Ministry for Foreign Affairs confirmed that incident.

My thoughts are we shouldn't be Russian to judgment. Cheesy

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on March 24, 2015, 02:50:19 PM

my thoughts? give them what they want. they're obviously provoking everyone.

So we should give them the old soviet union?

Its countries today, and they are deffended by NATO.
Russia wont get bigger than it is now.
Or it will escalate.

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hee-ho.

my thoughts? give them what they want. they're obviously provoking everyone.

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Russian Fighter planes flew in international Air space around Gotland and Bornholm.
The Russian fighters disabled their transponderes to avoid detection.

Danish and Italian Fighters where sent to intercept.

Cant find source on BBC.

But was found on Danish news site.

This comes only after a few days where russia threatned Denmark because we were upgrading our missile shield with the US on our Ships.

Thoughts?

~Hamuki

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