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I don't believe a word of Russian propaganda. I am on my personal experience that the Russian media always lie. Putin uses the experience of Goebbels and turned false information to the weapons.
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Russia is a weak country and in addition to nuclear weapons, she had nothing else to blackmail the world.

Look who is talking. Russia is a super-power, while your country (Ukraine) is a third world shithole which is even worse than Somalia and South Sudan. Russia is the world's second largest exporter of weapons. It is the country with the largest number of nukes in possession, and they have the best ballistic missiles and tanks. Russia can wipe out Ukraine in a matter of few hours.
Your ballistic rocket without Ukraine is a pile of rusty iron. How to fly Russian ballistic missiles, the whole world knows. You already can't launch a single rocket into space. What are you trying to scare us?

Don't make me laugh. Is there a need to scare the Ukrainians? How many rockets have been launched by Ukraine to the space till now?

BTW.... Russian rockets and missiles no longer need the Ukrainian components. Russian companies have started manufacturing the components, which were previously sourced from Ukraine.
Ukraine carries out its space program, but in Ukraine, produce engines for the European space program. Only recently was implemented two successful start, while the Russian missiles are falling.
legendary
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Russia is a weak country and in addition to nuclear weapons, she had nothing else to blackmail the world.

Look who is talking. Russia is a super-power, while your country (Ukraine) is a third world shithole which is even worse than Somalia and South Sudan. Russia is the world's second largest exporter of weapons. It is the country with the largest number of nukes in possession, and they have the best ballistic missiles and tanks. Russia can wipe out Ukraine in a matter of few hours.
Your ballistic rocket without Ukraine is a pile of rusty iron. How to fly Russian ballistic missiles, the whole world knows. You already can't launch a single rocket into space. What are you trying to scare us?

Don't make me laugh. Is there a need to scare the Ukrainians? How many rockets have been launched by Ukraine to the space till now?

BTW.... Russian rockets and missiles no longer need the Ukrainian components. Russian companies have started manufacturing the components, which were previously sourced from Ukraine.
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Russia is a weak country and in addition to nuclear weapons, she had nothing else to blackmail the world.

Look who is talking. Russia is a super-power, while your country (Ukraine) is a third world shithole which is even worse than Somalia and South Sudan. Russia is the world's second largest exporter of weapons. It is the country with the largest number of nukes in possession, and they have the best ballistic missiles and tanks. Russia can wipe out Ukraine in a matter of few hours.
Your ballistic rocket without Ukraine is a pile of rusty iron. How to fly Russian ballistic missiles, the whole world knows. You already can't launch a single rocket into space. What are you trying to scare us?
legendary
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Syria is basically a fight between shias and sunnis and the kurds are in middle.

ISIS, the sunni force is supported by Turkey, Saudi, Qatar and indirectly by US and allies.

The Assad's army, the Shia force is supported by Iran and Russia.

Kurds are the most suffered people in the war there. They suffer from both sides.

Moderate rebel is an excuse of US for supplying ISIS.
legendary
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Russia is a weak country and in addition to nuclear weapons, she had nothing else to blackmail the world.

Look who is talking. Russia is a super-power, while your country (Ukraine) is a third world shithole which is even worse than Somalia and South Sudan. Russia is the world's second largest exporter of weapons. It is the country with the largest number of nukes in possession, and they have the best ballistic missiles and tanks. Russia can wipe out Ukraine in a matter of few hours.
legendary
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Here comes more intel:

https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2016/12/17/want-to-support-the-trump-electors-dnc-leak-source-angry-bernie-supporter-not-russia-plus-aleppo-intel/

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FROM Lou at Tales from the Conspiratum & stuartjeannebramhall.com:

BREAKING: At Least 14 US Coalition Military Officers Captured by Syrian Forces in East Aleppo Bunker

DAMASCUS – According to two reports coming out of Aleppo today, at least 14 US Coalition military officers were captured this morning in an East Aleppo bunker by Syrian Special Forces.

This story was quietly leaked by Voltaire.net, who announced, “The Security Council is sitting in private on Friday, December 16, 2016, at 17:00 GMT, while NATO officers were arrested this morning by the Syrian Special Forces in a bunker in East Aleppo.”
Lada Ray’s intel on US coalition instructors in E. Aleppo & bombing of the Russian hospital:

After the bombing of the Russian hospital in Aleppo, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman came out and said point blank that intel and exact coordinates for the location of the makeshift mobile hospital were provided to ISIS terrorists by the US/ NATO forces.

To remind everyone: as a result of the improbably precise, considering the ISIS capability, bombing of the Russian mobile hospital, which only moved to that area a few hours prior, 2 Russian nurses were killed and 1 doctor wounded. Plus, at least 10 Syrians were killed, many of them children waiting to see a doctor, and dozens wounded.

The unusual precision with which the main tent of the hospital was hit – the only one filled with people at the tie – and the fact that the enemy fire was precision-corrected on the second strike, speak of the fact that advanced intel from NATO/US coalition was given to the terrorists.  

Before the bombing of the Russian hospital Russians were willing to negotiate safe passage of what may amount to hundreds of US, UK, French and other Western instructors and special troops, locked up in E. Aleppo together with ISIS militants. After the bombing of the hospital, performed as a result of direct interference of the West, the decision was made NOT to allow any of them out. Instead it was decided that they would be captured and held by Syrian forces. If necessary, they would be publicly shown on TV to demonstrate to the world who was really behind the Syrian war.
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If it is really the American behind the bombing are they challenging Russia in the shadows. But it is also possible that there are other parties involved and starting a fire so that America and Russia will have bad relations and undergo a cold war.

It is only my opinion, I do hope its not true otherwise another war between superpowers may possibly occur.
Can't understand why you have such cowardly thoughts? Who do you inspire them? Russia is a weak country and in addition to nuclear weapons, she had nothing else to blackmail the world. They never get involved in an open confrontation with America.
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If it is really the American behind the bombing are they challenging Russia in the shadows. But it is also possible that there are other parties involved and starting a fire so that America and Russia will have bad relations and undergo a cold war.

It is only my opinion, I do hope its not true otherwise another war between superpowers may possibly occur.
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Very good position! Initially, Russian troops bombed the city, and then as a humanitarian aid given 5 kilograms of food. Why is such assistance necessary? I hope this crime will not go unpunished.

Yes! Definitely! It will not go unpunished - those who created those terrorists - moderate or not, as well as the terrorists themselves, will get what is due to them.

And as an addition to my post above for Mersedes...

Oh, and can you explain this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/720033/US-paints-American-fighter-jets-frame-Russia-false-flag-attack-Syria-conflict
The last paragraph would make sense if US pained their planes in Russian colours on the US territory - for training purposes, but not in a conflict zone, where a possibility for a mix-up is high.

So far I see a typical Western modus operandi - frame someone for some alleged misdeeds, then use that as an excuse to perform your own very real misdeeds. You do understand, Mersedes, that what you said above is the following: "because someone else (allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, it is perfectly fine for us to bomb (by proxy) their children's hospital."

The Russian way would be: if someone (even allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, go out of your way to make sure that nothing like that ever happens again.

I believe that Syria is to blame for everything. And America and Russia and Turkey have no right to be there. Or officially declare a war and fight not hiding behind other people's backs.

Yeah, sure, and that girl next block, that got raped, is to blame too - she looked too pretty for her own good, eh?

Um, no one is hiding behind anyone's back. Russia is there perfectly legally, according to the international law (which almost only Russia seems to observe, while USA only insists that others observe the international law). Russian aid was requested at the official level by the Syrian government. Same goes for the Iranian ground forces. Even Turkish forces' presence in Northern Syria has now been coordinated with and approved by Syria.

What the Obama's regime war machine is doing in Syria is anyone's guess.
Foreign troops can't legally stay on the territory of another state. It is not necessary to tell fairy tales. It is a pity that they cannot all together be destroyed. For me they are all invaders.
legendary
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Very good position! Initially, Russian troops bombed the city, and then as a humanitarian aid given 5 kilograms of food. Why is such assistance necessary? I hope this crime will not go unpunished.

Yes! Definitely! It will not go unpunished - those who created those terrorists - moderate or not, as well as the terrorists themselves, will get what is due to them.

And as an addition to my post above for Mersedes...

Oh, and can you explain this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/720033/US-paints-American-fighter-jets-frame-Russia-false-flag-attack-Syria-conflict
The last paragraph would make sense if US pained their planes in Russian colours on the US territory - for training purposes, but not in a conflict zone, where a possibility for a mix-up is high.

So far I see a typical Western modus operandi - frame someone for some alleged misdeeds, then use that as an excuse to perform your own very real misdeeds. You do understand, Mersedes, that what you said above is the following: "because someone else (allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, it is perfectly fine for us to bomb (by proxy) their children's hospital."

The Russian way would be: if someone (even allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, go out of your way to make sure that nothing like that ever happens again.

I believe that Syria is to blame for everything. And America and Russia and Turkey have no right to be there. Or officially declare a war and fight not hiding behind other people's backs.

Yeah, sure, and that girl next block, that got raped, is to blame too - she looked too pretty for her own good, eh?

Um, no one is hiding behind anyone's back. Russia is there perfectly legally, according to the international law (which almost only Russia seems to observe, while USA only insists that others observe the international law). Russian aid was requested at the official level by the Syrian government. Same goes for the Iranian ground forces. Even Turkish forces' presence in Northern Syria has now been coordinated with and approved by Syria.

What the Obama's regime war machine is doing in Syria is anyone's guess.
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Very good position! Initially, Russian troops bombed the city, and then as a humanitarian aid given 5 kilograms of food. Why is such assistance necessary? I hope this crime will not go unpunished.

Yes! Definitely! It will not go unpunished - those who created those terrorists - moderate or not, as well as the terrorists themselves, will get what is due to them.

And as an addition to my post above for Mersedes...

Oh, and can you explain this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/720033/US-paints-American-fighter-jets-frame-Russia-false-flag-attack-Syria-conflict
The last paragraph would make sense if US pained their planes in Russian colours on the US territory - for training purposes, but not in a conflict zone, where a possibility for a mix-up is high.

So far I see a typical Western modus operandi - frame someone for some alleged misdeeds, then use that as an excuse to perform your own very real misdeeds. You do understand, Mersedes, that what you said above is the following: "because someone else (allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, it is perfectly fine for us to bomb (by proxy) their children's hospital."

The Russian way would be: if someone (even allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, go out of your way to make sure that nothing like that ever happens again.
I believe that Syria is to blame for everything. And America and Russia and Turkey have no right to be there. Or officially declare a war and fight not hiding behind other people's backs.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
Very good position! Initially, Russian troops bombed the city, and then as a humanitarian aid given 5 kilograms of food. Why is such assistance necessary? I hope this crime will not go unpunished.

Yes! Definitely! It will not go unpunished - those who created those terrorists - moderate or not, as well as the terrorists themselves, will get what is due to them.

And as an addition to my post above for Mersedes...

Oh, and can you explain this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/720033/US-paints-American-fighter-jets-frame-Russia-false-flag-attack-Syria-conflict
The last paragraph would make sense if US pained their planes in Russian colours on the US territory - for training purposes, but not in a conflict zone, where a possibility for a mix-up is high.

So far I see a typical Western modus operandi - frame someone for some alleged misdeeds, then use that as an excuse to perform your own very real misdeeds. You do understand, Mersedes, that what you said above is the following: "because someone else (allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, it is perfectly fine for us to bomb (by proxy) their children's hospital."

The Russian way would be: if someone (even allegedly) bombed a children's hospital, go out of your way to make sure that nothing like that ever happens again.
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Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.
"Pipe line projects" is valid but oil reserve is not ( Syria is on 32th country with oil reserve so not a big deal) The Russian intervention in Syria was about stoping masacre against orthodox christians and other christians( there are more then 1.5 mil orthodox christians, )
What's the religion? Even if Syria does not produces a lot of oil, but through it you can swing in Turkey by land from Iraq, Iran to Europe. Russia is afraid to lose the European market. Here is the whole reason for this war.

I think I'll pull an edit above into a reply:  It's, rather, about an absence of pipeline - it was Saudis and Quatar that were interested in the destruction of Syria to gain access to the territory to install a gas pipeline to the Mediterranean, and EU. USA's interests converged with the Saudis', in that USA needed a festering wound on Russian border.

Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.
When Russia bombed hospitals and areas of the city with civilians they didn't think that there are people dying. Cowardly Russia always at war only with those who can not answer them. I hope this will be a lesson for them.

Proof? When did Russia bomb any hospitals?  What would Russia gain by doing that, anyway? Ever since the start, Russia was almost the only source of humanitarian aid, including medical, to the local population. Russian specialists were also at the forefront in minespweeing the liberated land and in making it liveable again.

As for those alleged hospital bombings by Russia, when a journalist asked a State department spokesperson for evidence, that StateDep rep threw a tantrum, but did not answer the question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV80Wec9IBs
Very good position! Initially, Russian troops bombed the city, and then as a humanitarian aid given 5 kilograms of food. Why is such assistance necessary? I hope this crime will not go unpunished.
legendary
Activity: 1680
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Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.
"Pipe line projects" is valid but oil reserve is not ( Syria is on 32th country with oil reserve so not a big deal) The Russian intervention in Syria was about stoping masacre against orthodox christians and other christians( there are more then 1.5 mil orthodox christians, )
What's the religion? Even if Syria does not produces a lot of oil, but through it you can swing in Turkey by land from Iraq, Iran to Europe. Russia is afraid to lose the European market. Here is the whole reason for this war.

I think I'll pull an edit above into a reply:  It's, rather, about an absence of pipeline - it was Saudis and Quatar that were interested in the destruction of Syria to gain access to the territory to install a gas pipeline to the Mediterranean, and EU. USA's interests converged with the Saudis', in that USA needed a festering wound on Russian border.

Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.
When Russia bombed hospitals and areas of the city with civilians they didn't think that there are people dying. Cowardly Russia always at war only with those who can not answer them. I hope this will be a lesson for them.

Proof? When did Russia bomb any hospitals?  What would Russia gain by doing that, anyway? Ever since the start, Russia was almost the only source of humanitarian aid, including medical, to the local population. Russian specialists were also at the forefront in minespweeing the liberated land and in making it liveable again.

As for those alleged hospital bombings by Russia, when a journalist asked a State department spokesperson for evidence, that StateDep rep threw a tantrum, but did not answer the question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV80Wec9IBs
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Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.
"Pipe line projects" is valid but oil reserve is not ( Syria is on 32th country with oil reserve so not a big deal) The Russian intervention in Syria was about stoping masacre against orthodox christians and other christians( there are more then 1.5 mil orthodox christians, )
What's the religion? Even if Syria does not produces a lot of oil, but through it you can swing in Turkey by land from Iraq, Iran to Europe. Russia is afraid to lose the European market. Here is the whole reason for this war.
sr. member
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Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.
"Pipe line projects" is valid but oil reserve is not ( Syria is on 32th country with oil reserve so not a big deal) The Russian intervention in Syria was about stoping masacre against orthodox christians and other christians( there are more then 1.5 mil orthodox christians, )
sr. member
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Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.
When Russia bombed hospitals and areas of the city with civilians they didn't think that there are people dying. Cowardly Russia always at war only with those who can not answer them. I hope this will be a lesson for them.
legendary
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Who does what in Syria is difficult to determine from the outside. All we have is news from various parties that are all somehow involved in the conflict. I tend to agree however, that a real moderate rebel force hardly exists in Syria. Most are extremists of various shades.

The war in Syria is a proxy war between the US and Russia. Both powers have interest in Syria because of oil and pipeline projects.

While I agree with you, that much is obscured in the fog of war, there is one indicator - the wording of the statement from the Russian Defence Ministry. They are usually very careful in their wording, unless they have very solid proof to back the statement, proof that can be made public. The coordinates of the hospital were shared with the US - the "allies" in the war on terrorism - precisely to avoid "friendly fire". The pinpoint characteristics of the hits, coupled with he how the statement was worded, make me pretty sure that they know, down to names, who had those coordinates and whom they were passed to among the "friendly moderate opposition".

Btw, there is another reason for Russia fighting in Syria - the primary one. It's defending the borders of Russia. Take a look at the map. If Syria and the nearby region were to descend into chaos, Russian Caucasus would be next, and then central Russia. With such a threat oil pipelines (EDIT: or, rather, absence of pipeline - it was Saudis and Quatar that were interested in the destruction of Syria to gain access to the territory to install a gas pipeline to the Mediterranean, and EU) take a back - though still significant - seat. Many Americans have hard time understanding this fact, as they never had experienced aggression/war against their territory and did not have to defend their borders. Over the last 600 years only, Russia was on average fending off an attack each 50 years.
legendary
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Article dedicated to Nedezhda Durachenko, one of the nurses, killed in the bombing of the hospital (photos from the archives of friends and family):

http://www.ural.kp.ru/daily/26616/3633542/

The relatives of Nadezhda told the reporter that there was only one bright spot in this tragedy - the bus with children enroute to the hospital broke down along the way and was delayed, thus the children's lives were spared...

Nadezhda left behind husband and a little daughter.
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