I think that this movement was created by V. Zhirinovsky or E. Fedorov in order to troll everybody.
Topic: Russian liberals threatening secession? (Read 1840 times)
i wonder if this separatist movement was possibly engineered by the U.S./CIA. it would be a pretty effective way of fucking with putin. the annex parts of the ukraine, the U.S. emancipates part of russia..
1 & 2: rephrasing your questions to show their non-applicability.
3: Baltic states are happily-robbed by EU, and Russia had nothing against it. In fact, Russia has healthy trade agreements with the Baltic states. The same goes for other former Soviet-block countries. What Russia was opposed to, is the placement of rocket installation and NATO bases in the aforementioned countries, in clear violation of the promise given by NATO.
3: Baltic states are happily-robbed by EU, and Russia had nothing against it. In fact, Russia has healthy trade agreements with the Baltic states. The same goes for other former Soviet-block countries. What Russia was opposed to, is the placement of rocket installation and NATO bases in the aforementioned countries, in clear violation of the promise given by NATO.
1.You transformed a question into a fucking no-sense...
2.That not answer the Ukraine point with EU and eurasiatic trade union. Also why Russia want the possibility to invade again ex-URSS country if they are really isolationist ?
Invade? Last I checked. Russia was shot at from Ukraine, and NATO was doing a massive military build-up of what can only be called an invasion force on Russian borders.
Or are you talking about the other border? I guess the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics will soon form friendly trade agreements with
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1. When you try to trade with an ex-USSR country, and that country is ok with it, Russia is not boring anybody. However, when that country might lose 60% of its trade revenue by severing the trade deals with Russia, and starts having second thoughts...
Yeah, Russia is such a nice trading partner. "Trade on our terms and conditions, or else we will fuck you up like Crimea".Quote
Let's just say that it's the EU that starts boring people with their coup d'etats.
You're misrepresenting the facts. Yanukovich committed high treason by abandoning the Ukraine when things got too tough for him. He ran away to his Russian master. You call that independent?? You should be ashamed of spreading your lies for money.
1 & 2: rephrasing your questions to show their non-applicability.
3: Baltic states are happily-robbed by EU, and Russia had nothing against it. In fact, Russia has healthy trade agreements with the Baltic states. The same goes for other former Soviet-block countries. What Russia was opposed to, is the placement of rocket installation and NATO bases in the aforementioned countries, in clear violation of the promise given by NATO.
3: Baltic states are happily-robbed by EU, and Russia had nothing against it. In fact, Russia has healthy trade agreements with the Baltic states. The same goes for other former Soviet-block countries. What Russia was opposed to, is the placement of rocket installation and NATO bases in the aforementioned countries, in clear violation of the promise given by NATO.
1.You transformed a question into a fucking no-sense...
2.That not answer the Ukraine point with EU and eurasiatic trade union. Also why Russia want the possibility to invade again ex-URSS country if they are really isolationist ?
Invade? Last I checked. Russia was shot at from Ukraine, and NATO was doing a massive military build-up of what can only be called an invasion force on Russian borders.
Also, I'll indulge you with your questions, which are, by the way, nonsensical at their core.
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So why Russia is boring everybody when we try to do trade with ex-USSR country ?
And why Putin do an anti-fracking campaign in western Europe ?
And why Putin do an anti-fracking campaign in western Europe ?
1. When you try to trade with an ex-USSR country, and that country is ok with it, Russia is not boring anybody. However, when that country might lose 60% of its trade revenue by severing the trade deals with Russia, and starts having second thoughts... Let's just say that it's the EU that starts boring people with their coup d'etats.
2. Sources? As far as I know fracking has enough global opposition without Putin's help. Maybe if US released info about which chemicals are used in the process, there'll be less resistance?
PS: You are breaking the law on foul language use.
It seems that we've got another student-run publication from Lithuania. Are you happy with your 2$? 
$2 for the TRUTH is a cheap price to pay.
But no, please, tell me what truths the Russian media hand feeds you?
Oh, but no need to. I see the senseless blather here daily.
Apparently Putin is the most popular world leader and
RUssia is the beacon of hope for all downtrodden peoples?
A retard with 70 IQ could see through these falsehoods.
Hope it will be helpful.
$2 for the TRUTH is a cheap price to pay.
Who pay for Your posts?
Yes but historically the "last republics" (the Soviet Republics) voted themselves away from Russia. If I were a hypothetical politician in Moscow I would be nervous about creating anymore republics, especially in big regions like Siberia where the locals don't necessarily feel 100% Russian due to isolation or indigenous background.
Soviet Union is not "Russia".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
Yes I forgot, everyone was genderless and had no race - they were 'Soviet' people!
I can accept that. I can also accept that today's Russia is not the same pre-revolution "Russia". I'm tired of all the pseudo-academic arguments trying to justify Russia's annexation of Crimea and other violent acts against former Soviet states.
As far as I'm concerned, all the "real" Russians should confine themselves to a 50 mile Tsar Bomba radius of Moscow.
...OOPS. That was a Soviet invention, nothing to do with Russia. My mistake.
1 & 2: rephrasing your questions to show their non-applicability.
3: Baltic states are happily-robbed by EU, and Russia had nothing against it. In fact, Russia has healthy trade agreements with the Baltic states. The same goes for other former Soviet-block countries. What Russia was opposed to, is the placement of rocket installation and NATO bases in the aforementioned countries, in clear violation of the promise given by NATO.
3: Baltic states are happily-robbed by EU, and Russia had nothing against it. In fact, Russia has healthy trade agreements with the Baltic states. The same goes for other former Soviet-block countries. What Russia was opposed to, is the placement of rocket installation and NATO bases in the aforementioned countries, in clear violation of the promise given by NATO.
1.You transformed a question into a fucking no-sense...
2.That not answer the Ukraine point with EU and eurasiatic trade union. Also why Russia want the possibility to invade again ex-URSS country if they are really isolationist ?
3.EU was open to EU-Ukraine-Russia trade but explained that EU can't have a trade agreement with Ukraine if Ukraine joint the "eurasiatic" trade union cause it's impossible with the eurasiatic trade union rule (cause you must have an unique trade agreement with all the trade union country, not a trade agreement by country (one for Ukraine and one for Russia))
And i don't mean just Ukraine, Russia was opposed to every relation the west has with ex-USSR country. If Russia is not the USSR why they defend so hard the USSR empire ?
1 & 2: rephrasing your questions to show their non-applicability.
3: Baltic states are happily-robbed by EU, and Russia had nothing against it. In fact, Russia has healthy trade agreements with the Baltic states. The same goes for other former Soviet-block countries. What Russia was opposed to, is the placement of rocket installation and NATO bases in the aforementioned countries, in clear violation of the promise given by NATO.
1.So why Russia is boring everybody when we try to do trade with Western/Asian/rest of the world country ?
2.And why British/French/Americans do an anti-fracking campaign in western Europe/USA ?
3.PS: If you mean Ukraine, need I remind that Russia was open for a three way EU-Ukraine-Russia trade agreement. However EU said that Ukraine needs to choose, or else. Once Yanukovich said that he needed time to think, "or else" got implemented.
2.And why British/French/Americans do an anti-fracking campaign in western Europe/USA ?
3.PS: If you mean Ukraine, need I remind that Russia was open for a three way EU-Ukraine-Russia trade agreement. However EU said that Ukraine needs to choose, or else. Once Yanukovich said that he needed time to think, "or else" got implemented.
1.WTF ?
2.WTF ?
3.EU was open to EU-Ukraine-Russia trade but explained that EU can't have a trade agreement with Ukraine if Ukraine joint the "eurasiatic" trade union cause it's impossible with the eurasiatic trade union rule (cause you must have an unique trade agreement with all the trade union country, not a trade agreement by country (one for Ukraine and one for Russia))
And i don't mean just Ukraine, Russia was opposed to every relation the west has with ex-USSR country. If Russia is not the USSR why they defend so hard the USSR empire ?
What Russia wants is to be left alone, and have at least one century for itself, when no one tries to invade or disintegrate it.
So why Russia is boring everybody when we try to do trade with ex-USSR country ?
And why Putin do an anti-fracking campaign in western Europe ?
So why Russia is boring everybody when we try to do trade with Western/Asian/rest of the world country ?
And why British/French/Americans do an anti-fracking campaign in western Europe/USA ?
PS: If you mean Ukraine, need I remind that Russia was open for a three way EU-Ukraine-Russia trade agreement. However EU said that Ukraine needs to choose, or else. Once Yanukovich said that he needed time to think, "or else" got implemented.
What Russia wants is to be left alone, and have at least one century for itself, when no one tries to invade or disintegrate it.
So why Russia is boring everybody when we try to do trade with ex-USSR country ?
And why Putin do an anti-fracking campaign in western Europe ?
It seems that we've got another student-run publication from Lithuania. Are you happy with your 2$?
$2 for the TRUTH is a cheap price to pay.
But no, please, tell me what truths the Russian media hand feeds you?
Oh, but no need to. I see the senseless blather here daily.
Apparently Putin is the most popular world leader and
RUssia is the beacon of hope for all downtrodden peoples?
A retard with 70 IQ could see through these falsehoods.
Funny, I am here every day, and you are the fist to say it like this on these forums. Everyone else just point out facts. However, I've seen the formulation that you offer on other forums as well, always coming from NATO-paid trolls.
What Russia wants is to be left alone, and have at least one century for itself, when no one tries to invade or disintegrate it.
I would want to secede if I were
under the control of the Russian government.
Murderers will murder until they are STOPPED.
If BLOOD was currency, the Russian government
would be the wealthiest on the planet.
A great book:
(...)
under the control of the Russian government.
Murderers will murder until they are STOPPED.
If BLOOD was currency, the Russian government
would be the wealthiest on the planet.
A great book:
(...)
I think you forgot that
Soviet Union is not "Russia".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_okrugs_of_Russia#Ethnic_composition_of_autonomous_okrugs (wikipedia is free, listen it)
About what isolation are You talking?
It seems that we've got another student-run publication from Lithuania. Are you happy with your 2$?
$2 for the TRUTH is a cheap price to pay.
But no, please, tell me what truths the Russian media hand feeds you?
Oh, but no need to. I see the senseless blather here daily.
Apparently Putin is the most popular world leader and
RUssia is the beacon of hope for all downtrodden peoples?
A retard with 70 IQ could see through these falsehoods.
It seems that we've got another student-run publication from Lithuania. Are you happy with your 2$?
I would want to secede if I were
under the control of the Russian government.
Murderers will murder until they are STOPPED.
If BLOOD was currency, the Russian government
would be the wealthiest on the planet.
A great book:
https://i.imgur.com/zwCGhR3.jpg
Cheka (pre-KGB) common practices:
https://i.imgur.com/RyVveBE.jpg
Recent history in the Crimea:
https://i.imgur.com/5uBqoA0.jpg
The fighting man's reward for seeking a socialist utopia:
https://i.imgur.com/XqTyayk.jpg
The brave Hungarians:
https://i.imgur.com/VwuYa4v.jpg
under the control of the Russian government.
Murderers will murder until they are STOPPED.
If BLOOD was currency, the Russian government
would be the wealthiest on the planet.
A great book:
https://i.imgur.com/zwCGhR3.jpg
Cheka (pre-KGB) common practices:
https://i.imgur.com/RyVveBE.jpg
Recent history in the Crimea:
https://i.imgur.com/5uBqoA0.jpg
The fighting man's reward for seeking a socialist utopia:
https://i.imgur.com/XqTyayk.jpg
The brave Hungarians:
https://i.imgur.com/VwuYa4v.jpg
It's quite difficult to break the Western-built association of USSR=Russia, even though it's not true.
Russia was a member republic of USSR, and went under the name of RSFSR (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic). Though Federative was stated in its name, it had little say in its own affairs, so the soviet leaders did with Russian federative subjects and territories as they saw fit, as if that was their private property. Khushjov meddled with Crimea, Stalin with Ossetia, Lenin with Novorossia.
The USSR used to = Russia until the end of the cold war and the collapse of the USSR. Today what was the USSR is mainly Russia and other countries that used to be part of the USSR. Russia was a member republic of USSR, and went under the name of RSFSR (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic). Though Federative was stated in its name, it had little say in its own affairs, so the soviet leaders did with Russian federative subjects and territories as they saw fit, as if that was their private property. Khushjov meddled with Crimea, Stalin with Ossetia, Lenin with Novorossia.
https://www.facebook.com/boris.nemtsov/posts/665410086861928
Zhirinovsky vs. Nemtsov
FIGHT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aeijcg6Umo
Quebec will legally never be allowed to leave Canada.
So they are stupid, they would be better without them. I has read they have oil money from other state but are against the oil sand...
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