Topic: Russian moderators prejudgment. Plagiarism and duplicate posting. (Read 623 times)

Ok, I got it.

As I said, if you want to contribute to the Worldcore scam accusation then focus on facts, not innuendo.

On the other hand, if you want to help Worldcore supporters so that they could point to you as an example of how untrustworthy the opponents are - keep doing what you're doing with your conspiracy theories.

I'm more interested in another question, why did xandry put his tongue in the ass and not respond to the claims put forward to him?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43724740

I reported, but they're ignoring, so I had to create this thread.

Because @xandry is actually getting shit done. Spammers don't like change, and probably hate posting 50 posts a week, only to have the majority of them deleted for being shitposts.

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Instead of bitching about it, why don't you report the posts and help out by being a good actor in this community? Or put yourself in the shoes of the mods and see exactly how much time you have to spend sifting through bullshit posts, referencing other posts and researching the internet for plagiarism or going through users' post histories... It's not an easy job, and just because you found 15 instances of violations doesn't make you a hero. Why not report them instead of putting them on display to try and prove that the mods suck at their jobs?

People like you just make it harder for them. Please stop.

There are 3 global moderators on the forum: mprep, rickbig41, hilariousandco. Not so much as I can see.





The benefits of that topic is extremely doubtful. Worldcore Bots using it for plagiarism, spamming and copypasting.

Proofs:
#1
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43352983
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43353019
#2
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43235609
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43235647
#3
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414743
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414664
#4
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43168036
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43167882
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43167945
#5
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43416580
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43416556
#6
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752649
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752591
#7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234794
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234035
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234059
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234220
#8
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414999
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414946
#9
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43354718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43354749
#10
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752346
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42806998
#11
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755172
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42754981
#12
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755223
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755122
#13
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37446292
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32272371
#14
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293626
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293558
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293584
#15
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42988616
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42988215
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/five-winds-asset-management-fwam-scam-4457333
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43033727

If the russian moderators for so long didn't notice the topic with a massive violations, then what they are generally doing?

I suppose you mean "keep it clean". Yes, it is, but only when it's related to abidance of the forum rules.


Your suppositions look like mprep is the only Global Moderator you know.

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Not everyone - just a couple of users. The problem is that these users turned out to be very "active" in their discontent.


I don't think that it's precisely "community" fighting. Someone goes out to the squere and starts to resent loudly. Someone tries to settle them down. They're few - the majority of Russian users is not involved.

Note that I didn't blame the moderator mprep for dealing with scammers, but only pointed to an interesting coincidence in the history of his geolocation and also of the Worldcore representative and a known criminal. But you behave absolutely impermissible allowing yourself to freely insult users.

This is a good example why you sound like a deranged clown - you're inventing arbitrary criteria to fit your conspiracy theories. Do the scammers go to Lithuania to get Schengen passports or do they go to meet mprep, or perhaps they just like the scenery? Focus on facts, follow forum rules, and you'll be fine. Not sure what your goal is but e.g. if you want to show that mprep or xandry or whoever are involved in some shitcoining scam you're gonna have to come up with some actual proof.

I pointed that moderator xandry first writes one thing, and in the next week quite another. See two PMs from him:
July 31,       2018 - xandry: "I don't have sufficient authority".
August 07, 2018 - xandry: "I didn't finished with the first message yet".
Where is the logic? It looks like a mockery.


Comparison is not quite right. New York is the world capital, and attracts a huge number of people each year, while Lithuania is in the backyard of Europe and is attractive to scammers in that it is easy to get Schengen there.

No, so much allegation means it need to be investigated. 
When did the parameter of hatred become the symbol of job is done correctly?

What a irony some forum members are fighting for moderator for their local boards and these guys are fighting against their moderators.

PS: I am not Russian but may be be Theymos need to settle it out because community fighting is not a good thing.

Seeing who's doing the hating it would seem that xandry is doing a decent job hitting the spammers where it hurts.


I'm always angry, just sometimes pretending that I'm not


Yes, you can.



So three people in a country of 3 million means what exactly?

For comparison, nine "unusual" people in NYC - is that also a conspiracy? You would easily find that many in one subway car.

Hi, suchmoon. Can I find out where are you working?

This is a very fascinating that Lithuania with 2.9 million inhabitants attracts a lot of unusual people, among them the representative of Worldcore, the Bitcointalk global moderator and the international swindler Pavel Krymov.
https://www.e-tar.lt/portal/lt/legalActPrint?documentId=338f94e0024b11e78034be159a964f47

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That is why, Prehistory: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43795872

What is up with the Russian forum and xandry,why is everyone hating him?

There's too much spammy shit around here.

Never seen you this angry/triggered. Take a coffee break.

The amount of stupid on this forum is overflowing the cesspool.


You're making it sound as if Lithuania is a pizza shop or something. It's a fucking country you fuckwit.


You must have never left your own village. Quit spamming the forum with your harebrained conspiracy theories. If you don't like it here - close the browser, get a real job.

Hi Veleor!

Xandry is really paranoid. He is blamed me and left negative feedback that I sells my own accounts without any solid evidence, just only a sick imagination.

I would like the administration to pay attention to the behavior this moderator who abusing merit and trust feedback system.

Is it not moderator's job to support the forum in order? If he needed additional evidence, then it is necessary to say.
I asked moderator xandry to read the topic about cheaters accounts that constantly violating the forum rules p. 2, 3, 12, 25, 33.
xandry said at first that he "don't have sufficient authority". But on my second letter a week later he responded "I didn't finished with the first letter yet".
Is not this a tricky way to get out of duties?


Moderator Xal0lex wrote that all posts about Worldcore scam "should be" in the one topic "Worldcore - a scam".
But in fact the russian moderators closed their eyes on the similar self-moderated topic created by bots: Блeк пиap кaмпaния пpoтив Worldcore, ктo и зaчeм?
Don't you find that this is a clear example of double standards?


As I understand correctly, this rule applies to messages and not to topics.


The administrator teymos considered the ban was questionable, so the moderator could at least demand explanations from the user.


This would be the most democratic solution, but when the representative of the Worldcore company was driven into a dead end by tricky questions and critical reviews, he did not come up with anything better than creating new self-moderated topics.


If Marina Uni was banned by a global moderator, then I wonder was it a mprep?
At one time he not just closed the English branch about Worldcore but completely removed it, when there began posting a criticism of the company.



As I understand mprep lives in Lithuania.
You probably don't know, but it so coincided that considered organizer of Worldcore Pavel Krymov got the Lithuanian citizenship in 2017.

It is also known that the representative of the Worldcore company FintechEU visited Lithuania at the same year.



I am by no means hinting at anything, but the coincidence is very entertaining.

Unfortunately such a "freebie merit" smells like shit.

Alex_Sr, esmanthra, how did you end up here?
Came to smell freebie Merit?  

I'm not going to discuss his "reply periods" (although they're being reduced for now), but the quoted claim is questionable. As you wrote in your private message, you suspected someone of fraud - what actions from moderator did you expect in such a case? Mods don't moderate scams and misrepresentation. These are not their "direct duties".


As far as I can tell, besides the main thread there were more threads related to this "Worlcore scam" topic earlier (including the thread of Marina Uni):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ny-talks-2251768
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-eupsprovider-sro-worldc-3380354
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/worldore-3864176
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/moved-worldcore-wrc-4451337

I guess that from his point of view another one would be unnecessary.
Also all the Worldcore-related stuff anyway can be placed in the main topic (which is not self-moderated by the by - that means, that your posts can't be removed there by anyone but moderator and yourself). And it's a common practice in Russian section to close the surplus topics - in order to collect the information in one place and prevent shitposting/spamming, I suppose. Moreover there is a rule about dublicates (which was analyzed previously):


And a spam rule:


I'm afraid they couldn't do this since local mods can ban only Newbies. You'll need to apply to Global Mods if you want to ban a Full Member.
As for the questions - where did you read that you should be asked when you get banned?..

When there are no arguments, then there is nothing better than an ostrich position - head in the sand 

Of course everywhere bots and spammers.  

Dude, that's your problem, you're sick as your boyfriend and merit sponsor Xandry.

Good luck!

So someone saw this comment and immediately wrote a report, "avoiding ban violation of section 25 of the rules of the forum". The moderator saw the report and was obliged to respond in accordance with the rules-i.e. to ban the account, because the message was not written in the Meta section.


I'm not interested in communicating with bots

Alex_Sr are you personal Xandry's minion? Or wanna free merit for your flattery?

"Your" moderators should doing their job correct and objective instead of this shit that they do.

I'm talking about the same thing. It is very like that someone from the russian moderators was attuned to ban the author of the topic "Worldcore - a scam".
And he blocked Marina Uni's second profile right after she came to the forum and leave the comment.

Everything is quite simple. Users with the rank of Newbie can ban our moderators. Users of older grades of our moderators can't ban. They send a request to the administrators of the forum and ban such users, only administrators of the forum.

Therefore, users in the rank of newbie go to the ban almost as soon as the complaint is received and it is processed by the moderator.

Staff Russian section of the forum can't ban users high rank.

Alex_Sr, I really did try to stay on their side, but soon I understood that this is only excuses.
Russian moderator xandry answered me after month after I wrote to him and he still didn't solve the problem, while administrator teymos completely helped within 2 days.
Do you think teymoss helped so fast because he was less busy than moderator xandry? I should say no. This is a matter of a competence.



From the last day I still waiting when moderators will ban a multiple accounts created by ATMcoins.
And what is interesting - when account "Marina Uni" was banned, and she is again came on the forum under other login "Marina Yni", her new account had been banned from the forum less than 30 minutes.
It is seems that the russian moderators were strongly motivated to ban her and delete her comments about Worldcore company.
Why in one case the process goes more than one day, and in the other it is solved in less than an hour. What is your thoughts?

Screenshot of the deleted comment.



Translation:

This seems something worth looking into it, at least the matter of marina uni and worldcore, if anything happened there behind the courtain

Don't hurt our moderators. They have a backlog and do not always have time to respond to personal messages. The backlog is associated with a huge amount of work that they have to do every day.

About bans for plagiarizing the work goes on. This is seen on this topic:

[ List] Banned users

This list is updated every day!

My publication will be consist of two parts.
The first part concerns the moderators of the Russian Local.
In the second part, I'll list the accounts noticed in violation of forum rules.


I. Russian moderators prejudgment

❶ First of all I need to say about russian moderator xandry who answers in months after reports to him. And essentially he shirks from his direct duties.

Translation:
June 17, 2018 - Hello, xandry. Can you please check these accounts?
July 31,  2018 - No I can't. I do not have sufficient authority.



Translation:
July 03,       2018 - Hello, xandry. I created a topic in which everything is laid out in detail.
August 07, 2018 - Hello. I did not finished with the first message. [?]



Moderator xandry considers the complaint almost two months! Is this how the moderator should work? This is nonsense!


❷ Now let's talk about another russian moderator Xal0lex, who deleted the topic where I had warning Bitcointalk users about cheaters accounts (alternate topic in english - WORLDCORE Bots).

Xal0lex pointed as the reason - "There is a Worldcore topic - write there". But at the same time he didn't delete the similar self-moderated russian topic created by the Worldcore bots. Блeк пиap кaмпaния пpoтив Worldcore, ктo и зaчeм?



A decent example of double standards.


❸ A few days ago russian moderators without any questions blocked the account Marina Uni, who is the topic starter of "WorldCore - A Scam". Then she was ubanned by theymos.



Guess the person who first learned about the banned account Marina Uni before everyone else? The representative of Worldcore - FintechEU!


Translation: "Positive news - the moderators banned Marina Safonova (Nickname Marina Uni)"

How do you think who told to Worldcore employee this "positive news" before Marina Uni even learned about it herself?


❹ Beside of that, at one day moderator Xal0lex tried to close the russian topic "WorldCore - A Scam". Fortunately the topic was open again in the next day.


Translation:


Why moderator Xal0lex didn't close also the official self-moderated Worldcore topic, where all critic posts are still deleting?


❺ I informed the russian moderators in private messages and in the special russian topic about copy/pasting made by the same bots.
But the russian moderators xandry and Xal0lex didn't take any action and completely ignored my posts with the solid proofs.
Despite of this they immediately reacted to the next message after mine post.
Is it a moderators prejudgment? Because of that I need to write in english-speaking threads everytime.

Taking into account this fact I start to think that russian moderators are cooperating with the users on which I reported.


Conclusions on the first part.
The sum of arguments listed above gives a reasons тo suspect russian moderators in the deal with the company Worldcore.

It is important that the moderators were are not biased, make their work qualitatively and adhere to a neutral position no matter in what country they are live.

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II. Plagiarism and duplicate posting

Information about 11 Bitcointalk users who constantly copied own and others comments (Forum rules violation p.12, 33).


1. "SteelLiver"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1006631
Original https://profitgid.ru/xakery-vzlomali-administraciyu-atlanty-i-trebuyut-btc-vykup.html

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43173804
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ny-talks-2236259
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42994967
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43351389
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42607954
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42608063


2. "ALEX BRN"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/five-winds-asset-management-fwam-scam-4457333
Original https://otzovik.com/review_5649833.html

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42806998
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752346

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43167882
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43167945
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43168036
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43416556
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43416580
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414664
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414743
4)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43352983
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43353019
5)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43235609
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43235647
6)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752591
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42752649


3. "serzp"

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234035
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234059
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234220
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43234794
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414946
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43414999
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43354718
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43354749


4. "U1tra"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42754315
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39633911

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42754146
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39901411

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42987545
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42987592
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42754981
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755172
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755122
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42755223


5. "VikarResid"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.40498885
Original https://tradingbeasts.com/five-winds-asset-management-review-scam/#comment-1582

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38540465
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36947564

Duplicate publication:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39450764
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39451185


6. "ValarCrais"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38474160
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36946581


7. "Squeeze"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37446292
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32272371

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.37666588
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32656773


8. "araksancres"

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42750252
Original http://archive.fo/JJJKp (message #2672)

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293558
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293584
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43293626
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42988215
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/five-winds-asset-management-fwam-scam-4457333
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42988616
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43033727


9. "Mnezius"

Plagiarism

Bot https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.38510987
Original https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36949012

Duplicate publication:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39385955
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39386461


10. "Risiandsen"

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43232078
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43232160
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43662667
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43295796
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43353929
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42749040
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.42749091
4)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43411610
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43411724


11. "Sinfang"

Duplicate publication:
1)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41361970
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41443096
2)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41362267
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41443185
3)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41362586
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41443257