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Topic: Russian Voters’ Data on Sale After Blockchain Poll - page 2. (Read 345 times)

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And people still say that blockchain is good because it's more secure than "legacy" systems. Blockchain is just a programming pattern, and programmers who implement it can absolutely screw it all up like it happened many times. Even Bitcoin had some pretty big bugs, but luckily not anymore. In fact, blockchains can in general be less secure, speaking of centralized blockchains, because this field is still new, while classic data systems have decades of experience and best practices.

Nothing is secure as long as the one who is entrusted with it messed up and leaked the data.  I believe this incident is an inside job or possibly the one in charge of it is slacking thinking that since they are using the blockchain tech will be fully secured and hack-proof without realizing that it is only a program that can be exploited or hacked.
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This must be the first ever blockchain voting and already it has some flaws making it look like blockchain is incapable of handling such task,  when the fault must be coming from the organizers, how can that even be possible! They should have counter check all the applications involved to conduct the voting before hand,
There is always a first time, I hope next time things will turned out to be a good.
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Wow, this is a big failure for Blockchain voting... I don't understand how this became possible, clearly there was some mistake in the way it was organized. It should be possible to encrypt the data about the voters, making it unhackable, isn't it? And the responsible department is denying it has anything to do with their voters, which is expected but probably not true... I still believe that blockchain voting could be organised in a way that completely protects identities, it's just that this department made some terrible mistakes and now doesn't want to admit them. But this could seriously discourage any other blockchain voting ideas out there for a while.
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I guess this is just part of the evolving technology, it's pretty new still so there is a lot of loopholes that hackers can simply breach any time. So I would say give it a time to mature, as it goes, maybe those gaps in the security can be patch, no system is perfect. With that said, maybe we can see in a future a blockchain that better design because of the said attacks. Sometimes it's good to have this as it can vastly improved as time goes by.

Of course, this is part of the 'growing pains', they tested, it failed, then back to drawing board and improved the system.

And people still say that blockchain is good because it's more secure than "legacy" systems. Blockchain is just a programming pattern, and programmers who implement it can absolutely screw it all up like it happened many times. Even Bitcoin had some pretty big bugs, but luckily not anymore. In fact, blockchains can in general be less secure, speaking of centralized blockchains, because this field is still new, while classic data systems have decades of experience and best practices.

Because it's the buzz word in the last 3-5 years and everyone thought that it is the perfect solution specially for the voting process. It will really take years before we perfected this system in the electoral. And now that this news comes out, I'm sure there will be negative impact as our data are being sold in the dark market.
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I guess this is just part of the evolving technology, it's pretty new still so there is a lot of loopholes that hackers can simply breach any time. So I would say give it a time to mature, as it goes, maybe those gaps in the security can be patch, no system is perfect. With that said, maybe we can see in a future a blockchain that better design because of the said attacks. Sometimes it's good to have this as it can vastly improved as time goes by.
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Perhaps this could be the result of a poorly designed blockchain based application since they should have implemented stronger cryptographic algorithms and at the same time, there has to be some kind of abstraction to protect voters data.

Exactly my thought! Blockchain can exist in many form and shape. Moreover, this one was a centralized blockchain application which may or may not have the standard encryption system used by bitcoin itself. When we say blockchain, it doesn't mean it uses the highest security possible, it can just be a structure of the database programmed by any xyz programmer and maintained by a centralized authority. It certainly doesn't have a relation with bitcoin itself!

There's absolutely no need to scream that blockchain is obsolete. It has just started to take-off!
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Perhaps this could be the result of a poorly designed blockchain based application since they should have implemented stronger cryptographic algorithms and at the same time, there has to be some kind of abstraction to protect voters data.
The same as what I'm thinking.

The application is great but the design might not that be good.

“The department is regularly monitoring the internet for publications of such data, including the darknet. The database mentioned in the publication has nothing to do with the list of voters who registered to vote online,” the department’s press office wrote, adding that the information on the Moscow city hall’s servers was properly protected and “there had been no leaks since the beginning of 2020.”
But do you guys believe this?
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Is there any real advantage in swapping from the current system to a blockchain-backed/based one?

There is none I guess especially if the blockchain that we are talking about is one which is under a central controlling authority.

Rigging polls is one thing that is always a step ahead of any technology used. Here in my country, we shifted from manual polls to automated polls. It seemingly appeared as a legit progress but not really. Cheating was never erased. It remained rampant. 
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Perhaps this could be the result of a poorly designed blockchain based application since they should have implemented stronger cryptographic algorithms and at the same time, there has to be some kind of abstraction to protect voters data.

Ideally strong encryption techniques should be applied to the unique voters id used in that blockchain app considering that passport numbers were used as a unique identifier. Now I assume it was developed hastily in which developers have conducted insufficient testing to further make the system robust.
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And people still say that blockchain is good because it's more secure than "legacy" systems. Blockchain is just a programming pattern, and programmers who implement it can absolutely screw it all up like it happened many times. Even Bitcoin had some pretty big bugs, but luckily not anymore. In fact, blockchains can in general be less secure, speaking of centralized blockchains, because this field is still new, while classic data systems have decades of experience and best practices.
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very worrying about what if the personal data can be traded because it is clear the impact that will occur with the misuse of personal data can be very dangerous. It must be admitted that hackers now really enjoy it by hacking all social media services that are considered quite popular because there are many participants registered there.

if as the colleague above reported, it would be very scary that the data belonging to government institutions were actually hacked and traded.
usually personal data registered with a government institution will be more accurate. of course news like this is clearly very troubling for people whose data might be traded. but usually government institutions will be more alert to resolve if there is indeed a leak. because they have a working device that is qualified to be able to finish well.

usually the most hacked is personal data on social media applications that are well-known and in great demand by many people, because the data stored is more numerous and diverse.
as I have heard and read not long ago is the zoom application, which is traded on dark sites.
even in my country recently hacking on online shopping sites also took place. where clearly the data taken is an email address, cellphone number, home address, and bank account number.

hackers have led the level of worry about football lunge at this time and has become a separate field of work. it is a pity that the intelligence that is only to do things that are not commendable, but everything returns to the person himself. that doing such a thing cannot be used as a role model and makes many people feel afraid to give their personal data to other parties.
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I'm honestly pretty skeptical when it comes to my state using blockchain tech for the "better". I find myself rather being stuck in the system we are currently living in than having to live in a fully electronic system backed on the Blockchain. From a decentralized currency such as BTC to a system where everything is recorded and traced by central parties is a very big negative leap.

For this reason, I'd rather stick to the normal polls - although I certainly do know they could be rigged. Politics are mostly mind games where you always have to choose the "worst side" every 4 years anyway. Is there any real advantage in swapping from the current system to a blockchain-backed/based one?
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Hackers are reportedly selling the personal data of over a million Russians who voted electronically, using blockchain technology, during the recent constitutional amendment process.

Over 1.1 million data points were stolen and put on sale for $1.50 each on the online forums, the Russian newspaper Kommersant wrote. The data, consisting exclusively of passport numbers, has little value on its own, the anonymous sellers admitted to Kommersant. But such data can be used for phishing attacks when combined with information from other leaked databases.

Moscow’s Department of Information Technologies, which is responsible for the design of the voting system, denied the report in an email to CoinDesk.

“The department is regularly monitoring the internet for publications of such data, including the darknet. The database mentioned in the publication has nothing to do with the list of voters who registered to vote online,” the department’s press office wrote, adding that the information on the Moscow city hall’s servers was properly protected and “there had been no leaks since the beginning of 2020.”



Remarkable is the fact that the database was available for purchase in early July, but the Moscow government denied this. However, as a result, the database appeared in the public domain.

https://www.coindesk.com/russian-voters-data-on-sale-after-blockchain-vote-to-keep-putin-in-power-report
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