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legendary
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February 17, 2022, 08:02:04 AM
#36
I do believe that crypto mining is going to benefit the economy of Russia. as lots of cryptomining Companies continues to move to Russia as their next location since they have been banned from operating in other locations such as China, I believe that it is really going to make an impact and will help the economy to keep growing in the country.

I wouldn’t really say the same of cryptocurrency itself, but the business of crypto mining is something that is worth mentioning, because I know for sure it would make an impact. So, they have really made a good decision by considering cryptocurrency and crypto mining legal in their country.

Of course. Crypto mining can bring huge taxation benefits to the government. China may've reluctantly rejected Bitcoin, but other countries are opening their doors to the "crypto revolution" in order to avoid being left behind in the dust. Russia knows how important Blockchain technology is in today's society and what better way to embrace its benefits by approving Bitcoin for legal use?

If I'm not mistaken, Russia is already the second-largest Bitcoin mining hub in the world. The Russian government can simply tax miners themselves in order to get a piece of the pie. We need as much countries into Bitcoin as possible in order to accelerate "hyperbitcoinization". Ultimately, Bitcoin will survive with or without Russia's support. That's because of its decentralized and censorship-resistant design. If it wasn't that way, it would've died after China decided to do a "full blanket" mining ban. Let's see how the situation further develops with Russia's adoption of Bitcoin, as US sanctions put strong pressure on its economy. Just my thoughts Grin

They just see what China messing on and they could earn with it if they adopt then make realize to china that they are losing a billions of dollars taken from the tax came from cryptocurrency. For sure if Russia will gather more power for adopting crypto then most provably those other country like China which ban bitcoin will come back and tink about competing with Russia on its adoption with bitcoin.
legendary
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February 17, 2022, 06:38:56 AM
#35
I do believe that crypto mining is going to benefit the economy of Russia. as lots of cryptomining Companies continues to move to Russia as their next location since they have been banned from operating in other locations such as China, I believe that it is really going to make an impact and will help the economy to keep growing in the country.

I wouldn’t really say the same of cryptocurrency itself, but the business of crypto mining is something that is worth mentioning, because I know for sure it would make an impact. So, they have really made a good decision by considering cryptocurrency and crypto mining legal in their country.

Of course. Crypto mining can bring huge taxation benefits to the government. China may've reluctantly rejected Bitcoin, but other countries are opening their doors to the "crypto revolution" in order to avoid being left behind in the dust. Russia knows how important Blockchain technology is in today's society and what better way to embrace its benefits by approving Bitcoin for legal use?

If I'm not mistaken, Russia is already the second-largest Bitcoin mining hub in the world. The Russian government can simply tax miners themselves in order to get a piece of the pie. We need as much countries into Bitcoin as possible in order to accelerate "hyperbitcoinization". Ultimately, Bitcoin will survive with or without Russia's support. That's because of its decentralized and censorship-resistant design. If it wasn't that way, it would've died after China decided to do a "full blanket" mining ban. Let's see how the situation further develops with Russia's adoption of Bitcoin, as US sanctions put strong pressure on its economy. Just my thoughts Grin
sr. member
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February 17, 2022, 02:17:16 AM
#34
I think intelligent financiers live in Russia and they will always have fallback options in order to once again "beautifully" circumvent sanctions in order to once again help some of their economic sectors, as it already happened with the agricultural sector. What did those who imposed sanctions achieve? In addition to the fact that they themselves lost billions of dollars of profit, they also made Mother Russia number one in the expert and income in this area. A new region has just appeared in Russia. (CRIMEA).
You mean Oligarchs? They definitely have fallbacks but I don't think that they're going to risk their money to help their country unless they're affected directly or Putin is the one that talks to them and I can guarantee that they'll help when it's Putin doing the asking because previous Oligarchs that was against Putin didn't get good results.
legendary
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February 17, 2022, 02:13:21 AM
#33
Could be that the reason why Putin and Russian government has accepted Bitcoin, is the fact that they want to start a war and are in a state of inflation.
Investing in bitcoin to raise funds for the war ?
Putin cannot be trusted, not a single bit!
You don't understand anything about politics. Information about a possible Russian attack on Ukraine is very often published in the American and European media in order to put pressure on Ukraine. Ukraine will not be attacked, and the business in Ukraine is suffering big losses because foreign companies are closing offices and stopping all contracts.
legendary
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February 17, 2022, 01:12:03 AM
#32
Could be that the reason why Putin and Russian government has accepted Bitcoin, is the fact that they want to start a war and are in a state of inflation.
Investing in bitcoin to raise funds for the war ?
Putin cannot be trusted, not a single bit!


We need to think positive. What if there is no war, will Putin and russian government will back off from this descsion ? I thnk NO.
This decsion is taken in best interest of both government and the general public. Russia is a big country and adoptaion of bitcoin means a lot to them and give a strong message to the outside world.
hero member
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February 16, 2022, 01:51:05 PM
#31
Russia approved bitcoin as a form of money in order to hedge against the Russian ruble's depreciation and the Biden sanctions. What are your thoughts?

Putin is in favor of establishing bitcoin as a kind of money since he is threatening war and Biden's economic penalties will harm the ruble. He might still use bitcoin to transact in the global economy. I'd want to hear everyone's thoughts on this. Thanks for your response in advance Smiley
I don’t think that Russia has really approved of Bitcoin as a currency, although cryptocurrency mining is now legal in their country and people are allowed to buy and hold it as an asset. As for what you have said as being their intention for legalizing cryptocurrency, we are not even sure yet whether that is true or not. So, I am supposing that you just made that up. And moreover going to war at a time like this it’s really a bad idea. I wouldn’t support any country that is going for war at a time like this where things are really getting hard for a lot of people. In fact there is no perfect time for war, it is a bad thing.
legendary
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February 15, 2022, 12:20:23 PM
#30
Yeah, and the number of people who actually like (love?) those symbols, a scant reminder of the scraps they thought they once had. The sun has long set on all these empires but they still gather around the embers, hoping to restore pride because they still think the rest of the world looks on in awe at caviar-laden halls of decadence. And all we see are vodka-infused dancing bear videos.

The lengths they go to for this theatre would only be amusing if it weren't tragic for millions.

Actually, that number is still quite high.

I've seen it in a lot of countries, the poorer and less educated about the outside world they are the easier it is to trigger those nationalist feelings in the population and to blame an adversary they have no clue about and don't even know where to put it on a blank map. This fake nationalism which is not about making your country and life better but making it worse for everyone else is hiring in such conditions, "panem et circense" the simple tool to keep the masses happy.
The Russian poeple will have their ego satisfied that they've shown the west tho the boss is, they will have two extra loaves of bread because of higher oil prices, and the leaders will build three more palaces and order another batch of yachts.

Europe needs to cut the crap with all those eco dreams of pigeon tanning panels and carnival windmills and go back to nuclear power, France is the only one still having some common sense right now in all of EU energy policy.
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February 15, 2022, 03:42:55 AM
#29
Congress Russia Government for this great decision and accepted bitcoin their country. I Think Russian economic development will be more increase in future. Many people and many companies are interested in bitcoin. And many countries are accepted in cryptocurrency that's the good economic side in these country’s. I hope bitcoin will be accepted all Countries in future.
I do believe that crypto mining is going to benefit the economy of Russia. as lots of cryptomining Companies continues to move to Russia as their next location since they have been banned from operating in other locations such as China, I believe that it is really going to make an impact and will help the economy to keep growing in the country.

I wouldn’t really say the same of cryptocurrency itself, but the business of crypto mining is something that is worth mentioning, because I know for sure it would make an impact. So, they have really made a good decision by considering cryptocurrency and crypto mining legal in their country.
legendary
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February 14, 2022, 12:27:19 PM
#28
Tell me about it... my gas bill's more than tripled in past couple of months. My provider folded back in November, so multi-year contract ripped up, and on new tariffs that's been absolutely painful. State here's in talks to approve tax rebates to help but I'm already doing my numbers and it's tough on me, but I have no idea how most people with single-income family members are going to pull through next winter (if not already this cold spring).
My heart goes out to you. I have some relatives and friends living in Europe and they have been complaining about rising prices for a long time now. Actually 2 of them are migrating back since they couldn't take it anymore and miss paying bills that don't exceed $1.
legendary
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February 14, 2022, 11:54:14 AM
#27
Russian Government is working on a draft law that would make BTC a legal currency.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/russian-gov-t-and-central-bank-agree-to-treat-bitcoin-as-currency

But the beauty of cryptocurrencies are their privacy and freedom from national regulations. Russia wants to regulate BTC transactions using Banks which would undermine the uniqueness of cryptocurrencies.

It has been argued by some political-economists that Putin wants to use funds from BTC transactions to fund the war and shield itself from EU sanctions. But it has not been verified.
sr. member
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February 14, 2022, 11:10:11 AM
#26
I think intelligent financiers live in Russia and they will always have fallback options in order to once again "beautifully" circumvent sanctions in order to once again help some of their economic sectors, as it already happened with the agricultural sector. What did those who imposed sanctions achieve? In addition to the fact that they themselves lost billions of dollars of profit, they also made Mother Russia number one in the expert and income in this area. A new region has just appeared in Russia. (CRIMEA).
sr. member
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February 14, 2022, 11:09:54 AM
#25
If the news is true then that's a good thing, that way more and more countries are starting to accept Bitcoin because it is not easy for a country to accept Bitcoin and other cryptos with the policies of their respective countries. a country has the authority to accept or reject Bitcoin and that is what Russia does in dealing with Bitcoin. The development of Bitcoin that is getting better and better makes many people interested in following it and making good use of it. so as long as you get it in your own country, then use it well.
legendary
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February 14, 2022, 10:43:31 AM
#24
Russia approved bitcoin as a form of money in order to hedge against the Russian ruble's depreciation and the Biden sanctions. What are your thoughts?
They always have to wait till they're in dire need of rescue from a financial crisis before they acknowledge the supremacy of Bitcoin. This goes to show how self centered politicians can be, it really doesn't matter what continent these politicians a re from. Self preservation matters a lot to them. They only rescind their selfishness when they know there will be a public outcry to what they want. So, without the perceived clash with the US and the sanction therein, Russia would be acting like it hasn't even heard of anything called Bitcoin before, right?

And if it does happen, it could mean that they really are just going to legalize it, not necessarily use it themselves.
How would someone legalize something and then not use it themselves? This part isn't clear to me, or you meant adopting it as a legal tender for the country?
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February 14, 2022, 09:04:12 AM
#23
Apparently they're working on it — but don't run around celebrating just yet, because it doesn't mean that it's already guaranteed to happen. And if it does happen, it could mean that they really are just going to legalize it, not necessarily use it themselves.
Yeah you are quite right, but it seems that it will stand, because since i know bitcoin, no information of a nation trying to adopt cryptocurrency or legalize it that doesn't come to reality, the possibility is not in doubt that if they legalize it they will not implement the uses generally.
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February 14, 2022, 08:39:54 AM
#22
Could be that the reason why Putin and Russian government has accepted Bitcoin, is the fact that they want to start a war and are in a state of inflation.
Investing in bitcoin to raise funds for the war ?
Putin cannot be trusted, not a single bit!
legendary
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February 14, 2022, 07:35:22 AM
#21
Biden's economic sanction is just SWIFT exclusion which Russia or China had already tried excluding themselves. If they cut SWIFT, Russia will just use thier own or the Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS) of China.

Seeing how much China despised BTC which they ban crypto and yet Russia made it a currency could be something that might hold the relationship between the two countries. They might have something to disagree with this time.

Exactly. Russia can simply create its own financial system that would be impervious from US sanctions. By using Blockchain technology, they can achieve this and many more. Just like China did with its "digital Yuan", Russia can create a "digital Ruble" and use Bitcoin as its reserve currency. I'm not sure if Russia will approve the use of BTC and other cryptocurrencies, especially when China banned it completely. If they approve it, there could be a tense relationship between the two countries (China and Russia).

No matter what happens, Bitcoin will remain unaffected thanks to its decentralized and censorship-resistant nature. Citizens of Russia can get access to Bitcoin through other means if the government decides to ban it completely. It'll be difficult, due to the governments' surveillance efforts. But not, impossible. We need as much countries into Bitcoin as possible, so "hyperbitcoinization" can become a reality. Just my opinion Smiley
legendary
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February 14, 2022, 07:26:34 AM
#20
Yeah I don't think it's about old glories.
He needs to show the masses something.
You claim you're the richest country, a  superpower, bla bla bla, and you have a lower wage than Bulgaria, you're losing millions as poeple flee from the country, you claimed to be in control of the virus but a million has died from it, the ruble is going down the drain and there is no change in people's life. He must show them something. Just like the Crimea Bridge, they've built that as a symbol, the rest of the country's infrastructure is a joke, but they need symbols, just like 80 years ago.

Yeah, and the number of people who actually like (love?) those symbols, a scant reminder of the scraps they thought they once had. The sun has long set on all these empires but they still gather around the embers, hoping to restore pride because they still think the rest of the world looks on in awe at caviar-laden halls of decadence. And all we see are vodka-infused dancing bear videos.

The lengths they go to for this theatre would only be amusing if it weren't tragic for millions.

The real question is can Europe survive sanctioning Russia. The way Europe is hooked up Russian energy if Putin suddenly decides to go on a cut off spree and if the conflict increases some more "incidents" to other suppliers like in Red Sea, Europe could easily see 80% of its imports vanish and face a widespread energy crisis.

Tell me about it... my gas bill's more than tripled in past couple of months. My provider folded back in November, so multi-year contract ripped up, and on new tariffs that's been absolutely painful. State here's in talks to approve tax rebates to help but I'm already doing my numbers and it's tough on me, but I have no idea how most people with single-income family members are going to pull through next winter (if not already this cold spring).
legendary
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February 14, 2022, 07:22:19 AM
#19
Think the biggest sanction impact I can see right now is excluding Russia from SWIFT.
The real question is can Europe survive sanctioning Russia. The way Europe is hooked up Russian energy if Putin suddenly decides to go on a cut off spree and if the conflict increases some more "incidents" to other suppliers like in Red Sea, Europe could easily see 80% of its imports vanish and face a widespread energy crisis.
sr. member
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February 14, 2022, 07:21:47 AM
#18
Russia approved bitcoin as a form of money in order to hedge against the Russian ruble's depreciation and the Biden sanctions. What are your thoughts?

Putin is in favor of establishing bitcoin as a kind of money since he is threatening war and Biden's economic penalties will harm the ruble. He might still use bitcoin to transact in the global economy. I'd want to hear everyone's thoughts on this. Thanks for your response in advance Smiley

I think Russia is still in the process of deciding on whether to accept crypto in their country or not. Although recently I've read news on the internet that says they are not banning it unlike China and are not yet on the verge of legalizing it like El Salvador. They are still planning perhaps and calculating the pros and cons of fully approving the usage of BTC in their country. Which is a good thing in my opinion because making haste decisions could lead to nowhere good. Of course, there are people and groups who are in favor and against it and they must face both and handle them well to avoid chaos and unnecessary trouble.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
February 14, 2022, 06:38:34 AM
#17
Biden's economic sanction is just SWIFT exclusion which Russia or China had already tried excluding themselves. If they cut SWIFT, Russia will just use thier own or the Cross-Border Interbank Payment System (CIPS) of China.

And? You can trade with your neighbor's cat rats for catnip that doesn't mean you've managed to bypass and find a better solution than calling a specialist.

If they cut them from SWIFT is goodbye, carrier pigeons if you want to deal with the rest of the world banks, if there will be economical sanctions good luck using BTC. The aim of sanctions is not to sever the direct payment link between the buyer and seller but to make the seller refuse completely any deal with the sanctioned part.
Look at Huawei, once the king of 5G, nowadays they can't even launch their flagship with a 5G chip, those are sanctions, why aren't they using CIPS or Bitcoin to get their 5g chips? Oh, because of sanctions, cause everybody refuses to deal with them.

This will be the same here, you can use Monero or Love Potion or any other coins, as long as not even  Lrrr, ruler of the Planet Omicron Persei 8 would want to trade with you the only thing you can do is stick them on down your ass or get out of Ukraine.

Yeah I don't think it's about old glories.

He needs to show the masses something.
You claim you're the richest country, a  superpower, bla bla bla, and you have a lower wage than Bulgaria, you're losing millions as poeple flee from the country, you claimed to be in control of the virus but a million has died from it, the ruble is going down the drain and there is no change in people's life. He must show them something. Just like the Crimea Bridge, they've built that as a symbol, the rest of the country's infrastructure is a joke, but they need symbols, just like 80 years ago.

 
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