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Topic: Russia/Ukraine, Who is to blame? (Read 390 times)

legendary
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January 28, 2023, 03:28:49 PM
#41
Putin/Russia are the only to blame. If they were no invading nobody would have suffered.

But now here we are.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbPqroGXwAsYEVq.jpg


The US and Nato are to blame. They have been trying to take over the world - now Russia and next Siberia, then China - for decades. It's just that they use such good trickery and deceit that  people barely understand it.

Cool
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January 28, 2023, 03:00:42 PM
#40
Putin/Russia are the only to blame. If they were no invading nobody would have suffered.

But now here we are.




legendary
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January 18, 2023, 07:47:37 PM
#39
Those Ukrainians in Ukraine who are more or less cut from the same cloth as Russians, have already mostly gone to Russia... or Poland or some other nearby country.

It isn't easy to suddenly pull up stakes and move to a different country. There's gotta be problems with doing it. But one wonders if it is worth staying.

Cool
legendary
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January 18, 2023, 09:19:10 AM
#38
Maybe there has been significant drift since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, but the Ukrainians and the Russians certainly don't seem to be cut from the same cloth at this point in time.

  Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy dancing in GAY VIDEO in High Heels - Song - 'In the Middle'
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/mrLIpSSNYtGY/

  Russian Frontline Song Making The Rounds
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/T0HmUpTWY8Iq/

It's genuinely disturbing to see what types of stuff was getting the Ukroids off back before they voted for this sinister dwarf weirdo.  The Russians, OTOH, seem like they can make a pleasant time even on the front.

legendary
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January 17, 2023, 06:58:19 PM
#37
^^^ The US started it in 2014 by covertly taking over the Ukrainian government, and pushing for killing and destruction in the Donbas region. Over 1,000 killed there before Russia moved in to stop it.

There is nobody to blame for the war. 'Blame' isn't part of it. It's just people doing what they like to do best. Too bad that some of them who don't like being caught up in a war, stupidly sit there and let themselves be caught up in a war rather than migrating.

Cool
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January 17, 2023, 05:15:34 PM
#36
wouldn't blame the US,they were one their own when Russia started the game and as good game players,they went down to Ukraine to fuel the war so that they can benefit from the war. Russia is to be blamed because last year February wasn't the first time they have been oppressing Ukraine,which they do get away with it.

This was the main reason why the Military adviced Putin for invasion and thought they could go away with, underestimating Ukraine who are sick and tired of Putin controversy over them by allowing other countries especially the US to assist them in the ongoing war.
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January 17, 2023, 10:17:52 AM
#35
Well, I personally believe, Ukraine should be blamed. They weren't supposed to go to war, with a big brother like Russia in the first place.

Whatever side Ukraine may have taken in the debate, they would have sought out a solution before things got out of hand. They would have recognized that Russia is their big brother and that, due to their superior arsenals and status as one of the world's superpowers, they are capable of annihilating them in a matter of seconds.

Is just like Mexico, wanting to go to war with USA, we all know the result will be catastrophic for Mexico. Today, no Russian city has been scratched, but I cannot say thesame for Ukraine.
LOL, what a deep insight. ''They weren't supposed to go to war, with a big brother like Russia in the first place.'' Maybe I don't know something, but did Ukraine declared war to Russia? I just remind you that in early morning of 24th February Putin declared beginning of ''special military operation'' in Ukraine.
Recognizing Russia as big brother? So, pretty much let Russia to take slice of whole territory of Ukraine whenever they want, install puppet government and simply end history of Ukraine as independent state. It would be something like letting neighbour into you home, then he kick you out, change door locks and you become homeless.
''No Russsian city has been scratched''. Well, maybe it's because Ukraine didn't started this war, they're not agressor and they don't have plans to occupy territory of Russia?
I wonder why the above user sees Ukrainian as the country to be blamed for the war between them and Russia when the war was not declared by them. For the record, what they did is defend their own country and I believe what should be blamed for the conflict is our political practice error with the additional of lack of genuine humanity understanding of our political leader
legendary
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January 17, 2023, 10:15:53 AM
#34
The Knights Templar in the City of London. They need to get rid of all the out of date armaments they conned America into manufacturing, and they need to increase pollution to maintain the climate change scam.

Of course there are other reasons they started it, including the destruction of fiat currencies.
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January 17, 2023, 10:05:28 AM
#33
^^^ The US and Nato are already in that war.     Cool
For those who don't know, Russia calls Ukraine a "puppet country", a puppet state controlled by Nato and the US. The reason behind Russia's serious opposition to Ukraine joining Nato is because by joining Nato, both Nato and America representing Nato will have the right to build military base directly in front of Russia. If this is realized, then what will be colonized will no longer be Ukraine now, but Russia by the European Union coalition.

Key words, after studying the problem, Russia's war agenda with Ukraine contains the following aims and objectives:
1. Russia does not want Ukraine to be used as a military base by NATO and America.
2. According to Russia, the provocateurs and damage to the nations of the world are America and NATO. Because since ancient times the countries that joined NATO were colonizing countries. All nations on this earth.
3. Russia prohibits other countries from interfering, Russia's domestic political affairs with Ukraine, if other countries intervene, don't blame the world war3 will take place because there will be a nuclear war.

Conclusion: so that a nuclear war does not occur, America and its gang of NATO, immediately leave and go home. And don't try to build a military base in Ukraine which is adjacent to Russia because it will cause a major nuclear war havoc and no one can prevent it. In my opinion so.
legendary
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January 16, 2023, 07:51:54 PM
#32
Well, I personally believe, Ukraine should be blamed. They weren't supposed to go to war, with a big brother like Russia in the first place.

Whatever side Ukraine may have taken in the debate, they would have sought out a solution before things got out of hand. They would have recognized that Russia is their big brother and that, due to their superior arsenals and status as one of the world's superpowers, they are capable of annihilating them in a matter of seconds.

Is just like Mexico, wanting to go to war with USA, we all know the result will be catastrophic for Mexico. Today, no Russian city has been scratched, but I cannot say thesame for Ukraine.
LOL, what a deep insight. ''They weren't supposed to go to war, with a big brother like Russia in the first place.'' Maybe I don't know something, but did Ukraine declared war to Russia? I just remind you that in early morning of 24th February Putin declared beginning of ''special military operation'' in Ukraine.
Recognizing Russia as big brother? So, pretty much let Russia to take slice of whole territory of Ukraine whenever they want, install puppet government and simply end history of Ukraine as independent state. It would be something like letting neighbour into you home, then he kick you out, change door locks and you become homeless.
''No Russsian city has been scratched''. Well, maybe it's because Ukraine didn't started this war, they're not agressor and they don't have plans to occupy territory of Russia?
legendary
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January 16, 2023, 06:39:02 PM
#31
I can't blame anybody here because we all do not understand why Putin was aggressively want to take Ukraine down. Is like the NATO majorly the Americans never want the war to end because they want to use the opportunity to use Ukraine to destroy Russia so that they will not have a strong opponent like Russia that could question them. The war is a means to destroy that is why America is spending huge money to fight against Russia indirectly.

There is such a vast amount of raw material wealth in Russia and Siberia, that it's worth the gamble to see if Russia can be made to lose.

Cool
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January 16, 2023, 06:33:49 PM
#30
I can't blame anybody here because we all do not understand why Putin was aggressively want to take Ukraine down. Is like the NATO majorly the Americans never want the war to end because they want to use the opportunity to use Ukraine to destroy Russia so that they will not have a strong opponent like Russia that could question them. The war is a means to destroy that is why America is spending huge money to fight against Russia indirectly.
I would blame USA and EU for accelerating the war and banning Russia - this did not bring any good but worse of all --- UK France and Poland have all vowed to send tanks - Poland call on Germany to supply weapons to Ukraine - is this third world war already in making ??
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January 16, 2023, 04:12:59 PM
#29
I can't blame anybody here because we all do not understand why Putin was aggressively want to take Ukraine down. Is like the NATO majorly the Americans never want the war to end because they want to use the opportunity to use Ukraine to destroy Russia so that they will not have a strong opponent like Russia that could question them. The war is a means to destroy that is why America is spending huge money to fight against Russia indirectly.
jr. member
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January 16, 2023, 09:49:51 AM
#28
I think the Ukraine sponsors are the to one to blame, because they are the one fuelling The whole situation, making Ukrainian feel they can match Russians in the war.

United States I spent millions of Dollars on Ukraine but still yet Russians are killing them everyday destroying their land and businesses. in my own opinion I think Ukraine president should reconsider for the sake of his people.


I believe you might be correct. Because it was or is at fault someplace in Ukraine. I believe they ought to resolve their differences amicably. Since their nation's internal situation is poor, they also have many problems with other nations.
jr. member
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January 16, 2023, 02:17:00 AM
#27
I think the Ukraine sponsors are the to one to blame, because they are the one fuelling The whole situation, making Ukrainian feel they can match Russians in the war.

United States I spent millions of Dollars on Ukraine but still yet Russians are killing them everyday destroying their land and businesses. in my own opinion I think Ukraine president should reconsider for the sake of his people.
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 12:11:34 PM
#26
^^^ The US and Nato are already in that war.     Cool
legendary
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January 15, 2023, 05:57:24 AM
#25
The war between Russia and Ukraine has caused the greatest damage to the country's economy and its people.  Because during the war of a country, all activities are almost stopped, thus losing the natural balance of the country.  Everyone wants to take over the kingdom.  Meanwhile, Russia has been heavily aggressive against Ukraine because of the large number of Russian troops and weapons capable of inflicting heavy damage on Ukraine.  But Ukraine is also ready to prevent the attack. The war has been going on for almost a year, because of which the country's natural balance and currency and food shortages have appeared.  If this war continues, the country will face bigger problems.

Although it is just a war between two countries, it not only causes an imbalance in those two countries but also affects the world,  the crisis and inflation partly caused by war. My feeling: if this war does not end soon, it will cause many negative impacts and possible long-term effects on the world economy. Even worse, it could create a larger direct conflict between Russia and NATO, which would be the start of World War 3. It doesn't matter who is right or wrong, but the war needs to stop immediately.
sr. member
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January 15, 2023, 04:03:15 AM
#24
The war between Russia and Ukraine has caused the greatest damage to the country's economy and its people.  Because during the war of a country, all activities are almost stopped, thus losing the natural balance of the country.  Everyone wants to take over the kingdom.  Meanwhile, Russia has been heavily aggressive against Ukraine because of the large number of Russian troops and weapons capable of inflicting heavy damage on Ukraine.  But Ukraine is also ready to prevent the attack. The war has been going on for almost a year, because of which the country's natural balance and currency and food shortages have appeared.  If this war continues, the country will face bigger problems.
legendary
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January 13, 2023, 05:00:57 PM
#23
Everybody who has watched what is going on over the years and decades, knows that the US and the wealthy elite want Siberia for the raw materials there. And throwing in the rest of the Russian lands is like icing on the cake.

The war is the US pushing Ukraine into fighting Russia. If Ukraine does it, it will take a long time for people to realize that the US is behind Ukraine's doing of it. But more and more people are realizing that the money going from the US and Nato into Ukraine is the only thing that is keeping the war alive.

So, who is to blame? Not Russia or Ukraine. Rather the US and Nato.

Cool
newbie
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January 13, 2023, 11:36:18 AM
#22
For me, I will blame the president of Ukraine for allowing other countries like the United Kingdom and the United States to use them to play politics in the name of equipping them to defend their territory. Unless Ukraine's president tells us otherwise, life is more important than anything else.A leader should put the life of the citizen before any other interest.From what I'm saying, it seems like joining NATO is more important than the lives of the citizens and the businesses that are destroyed every day.
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