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legendary
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March 06, 2023, 02:02:47 PM
#29

Russophobia was caused by the government controlled media of the West. The media is controlled in such a way that it hides hide the fact that it is controlled by government. Stalin made this Russophobia to have a basis in being real. The media simply expanded on it.

Wake up. Stalin is long gone. His ideals might still be held by many people, but these ideals are waning, as well. However, Russia under Stalin did have one thing that is good... strength. The way this strength was managed was what was wrong.

The thing that we are talking about is US control through the money system. The money system controls the governments of the West. And they are the ones who are creating Russophobia through the media. And because you were personally or family hurt by somebody-Russia or something-Russia, you have blown the whole Russophobia idea way out of proportion.

Cool

Are you sure about that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/11k140e/supposedly_execution_of_a_ukranian_zero_info/

PS. If you don't understand what they are saying, well, that Ukrainian POW said: "Glory to Ukraine", and the Russian terrorists executed him.
He was unarmed.


The fact that you would ask if I am sure, shows that you are not sure.

If one can believe about the Reddit post:
1. This is war;
2. Ukraine does it all the time;
3. The joker was an idiot, asking for it, knowing he was going to get it;
4. Did any of them accept Jesus salvation?

We all die. The important thing is in #4. But he was blessed in that it went fast for him.

Cool

1. This is a war crime.

One of the thousands of war crimes Russians committed and ARE COMMITTING in Ukraine.

You can apologize all you want. Facts are facts.

Russian decision-makers and ordinary soldiers will be prosecuted for these crimes.

This war will not end until all people responsible for this genocide are eliminated or receive long jail sentences.
legendary
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March 06, 2023, 11:53:53 AM
#28

Russophobia was caused by the government controlled media of the West. The media is controlled in such a way that it hides hide the fact that it is controlled by government. Stalin made this Russophobia to have a basis in being real. The media simply expanded on it.

Wake up. Stalin is long gone. His ideals might still be held by many people, but these ideals are waning, as well. However, Russia under Stalin did have one thing that is good... strength. The way this strength was managed was what was wrong.

The thing that we are talking about is US control through the money system. The money system controls the governments of the West. And they are the ones who are creating Russophobia through the media. And because you were personally or family hurt by somebody-Russia or something-Russia, you have blown the whole Russophobia idea way out of proportion.

Cool

Are you sure about that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/11k140e/supposedly_execution_of_a_ukranian_zero_info/

PS. If you don't understand what they are saying, well, that Ukrainian POW said: "Glory to Ukraine", and the Russian terrorists executed him.
He was unarmed.


The fact that you would ask if I am sure, shows that you are not sure.

If one can believe about the Reddit post:
1. This is war;
2. Ukraine does it all the time;
3. The joker was an idiot, asking for it, knowing he was going to get it;
4. Did any of them accept Jesus salvation?

We all die. The important thing is in #4. But he was blessed in that it went fast for him.

Cool
legendary
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Merit: 1468
March 06, 2023, 10:57:33 AM
#27
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I have a friend that hates ducks, but that does not make "duckophobia" more real than Santa Claus.

There will always be racism and fascism, but there is no threat to the Russian culture, traditions or any other expression that could be classed as "Russian". Please, be all very aware of the current RF government trying to appear to be a defender of "values", they are not, they are just criminals. The divide is artificial and voiced by a government that need their population to hate others to hide their own ineptitude. A classic tactic - if things go poorly at home, look for an enemy outside.
A clear proof that the government is not concerned with Russophobia is the war itself - unless they believe that people will love them for killing others.


Russophobia was caused by the government controlled media of the West. The media is controlled in such a way that it hides hide the fact that it is controlled by government. Stalin made this Russophobia to have a basis in being real. The media simply expanded on it.

Wake up. Stalin is long gone. His ideals might still be held by many people, but these ideals are waning, as well. However, Russia under Stalin did have one thing that is good... strength. The way this strength was managed was what was wrong.

The thing that we are talking about is US control through the money system. The money system controls the governments of the West. And they are the ones who are creating Russophobia through the media. And because you were personally or family hurt by somebody-Russia or something-Russia, you have blown the whole Russophobia idea way out of proportion.

Cool

Are you sure about that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineInvasionVideos/comments/11k140e/supposedly_execution_of_a_ukranian_zero_info/

PS. If you don't understand what they are saying, well, that Ukrainian POW said: "Glory to Ukraine", and the Russian terrorists executed him.
He was unarmed.
legendary
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Merit: 1373
March 06, 2023, 10:40:33 AM
#26
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I have a friend that hates ducks, but that does not make "duckophobia" more real than Santa Claus.

There will always be racism and fascism, but there is no threat to the Russian culture, traditions or any other expression that could be classed as "Russian". Please, be all very aware of the current RF government trying to appear to be a defender of "values", they are not, they are just criminals. The divide is artificial and voiced by a government that need their population to hate others to hide their own ineptitude. A classic tactic - if things go poorly at home, look for an enemy outside.
A clear proof that the government is not concerned with Russophobia is the war itself - unless they believe that people will love them for killing others.


Russophobia was caused by the government controlled media of the West. The media is controlled in such a way that it hides hide the fact that it is controlled by government. Stalin made this Russophobia to have a basis in being real. The media simply expanded on it.

Wake up. Stalin is long gone. His ideals might still be held by many people, but these ideals are waning, as well. However, Russia under Stalin did have one thing that is good... strength. The way this strength was managed was what was wrong.

The thing that we are talking about is US control through the money system. The money system controls the governments of the West. And they are the ones who are creating Russophobia through the media. And because you were personally or family hurt by somebody-Russia or something-Russia, you have blown the whole Russophobia idea way out of proportion.

Cool
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 11:48:51 PM
#25
I think we must fight against Russophobia because it not different than fascism. Why would people treat the Russians differently? They have eyes, noses and mouths like every other human being.

I am very saddened how these innocent Russians being treated in Europe. Is it a crime to be born Russian?

Europe should get its shit together and end their fascism against the Russians once and for all.

I have Russian friends, Georgian friends and Ukrainian friends. The "Russophobia" does not exist, is an invention of the Kremlin propagandists to justify their un-justifiable aggression. The world is not against Russians, it is against an illegal war waged by the current government and military ranks of the Russian Federation.

In war times, the enemy is the enemy and it is unclear who can potentially be a spy, so actors and others may of course be banned.

RE fascism and Europe, poverty attracts simple and wrong solutions to complex problems. Fascism is a simple and wrong solution that comes when people are disappointed with democracy.

If people come to your country to kill, you will hate the killers. The Russians came to the Caucasus and for 40 years killed the local peoples. Some have disappeared altogether. The same was true in Siberia and Turkistan. The conquered Russian peoples were deprived of their language, culture, Russification was going on. Today, the Russians returned to Ukraine with the same goal, declaring that the Ukrainian people do not exist, that the inhabitants of Ukraine are Russians.

It exists in this thread. Have you seen these 2 guys' posts?

This one says most Russians are violent and only bring misery.

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.
The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.
Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.
Russkiy Mir only brings misery.

Read the other dude:

Yes, right! Russians must be deported! The fact is that most of them are young, and it is they who, as they have seen the advantage of democracy, should remove Putin.

Why would all the Russians deserve to be deported? Just because they are Russians? Where is the common sense in that?

Now tell me these guys ain't Russophobes. They are indeed.

Or are you telling me... these guys are Kremlin propagandists acting like Russophobes?

Maybe you are onto something. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if these 2 guys are hardcore Russians.  Cool

The last time Europe went full Hitler no good thing happened to them. Hopefully it won't happen again.

I have a friend that hates ducks, but that does not make "duckophobia" more real than Santa Claus.

There will always be racism and fascism, but there is no threat to the Russian culture, traditions or any other expression that could be classed as "Russian". Please, be all very aware of the current RF government trying to appear to be a defender of "values", they are not, they are just criminals. The divide is artificial and voiced by a government that need their population to hate others to hide their own ineptitude. A classic tactic - if things go poorly at home, look for an enemy outside.

A clear proof that the government is not concerned with Russophobia is the war itself - unless they believe that people will love them for killing others.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 06:06:26 PM
#24
I think we must fight against Russophobia because it not different than fascism. Why would people treat the Russians differently? They have eyes, noses and mouths like every other human being.

I am very saddened how these innocent Russians being treated in Europe. Is it a crime to be born Russian?

Europe should get its shit together and end their fascism against the Russians once and for all.

I have Russian friends, Georgian friends and Ukrainian friends. The "Russophobia" does not exist, is an invention of the Kremlin propagandists to justify their un-justifiable aggression. The world is not against Russians, it is against an illegal war waged by the current government and military ranks of the Russian Federation.

In war times, the enemy is the enemy and it is unclear who can potentially be a spy, so actors and others may of course be banned.

RE fascism and Europe, poverty attracts simple and wrong solutions to complex problems. Fascism is a simple and wrong solution that comes when people are disappointed with democracy.

It exists in this thread. Have you seen these 2 guys' posts?

This one says most Russians are violent and only bring misery.

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.
The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.
Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.
Russkiy Mir only brings misery.

Read the other dude:

Yes, right! Russians must be deported! The fact is that most of them are young, and it is they who, as they have seen the advantage of democracy, should remove Putin.

Why would all the Russians deserve to be deported? Just because they are Russians? Where is the common sense in that?

Now tell me these guys ain't Russophobes. They are indeed.

Or are you telling me... these guys are Kremlin propagandists acting like Russophobes?

Maybe you are onto something. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if these 2 guys are hardcore Russians.  Cool

The last time Europe went full Hitler no good thing happened to them. Hopefully it won't happen again.

I have a friend that hates ducks, but that does not make "duckophobia" more real than Santa Claus.

There will always be racism and fascism, but there is no threat to the Russian culture, traditions or any other expression that could be classed as "Russian". Please, be all very aware of the current RF government trying to appear to be a defender of "values", they are not, they are just criminals. The divide is artificial and voiced by a government that need their population to hate others to hide their own ineptitude. A classic tactic - if things go poorly at home, look for an enemy outside.

A clear proof that the government is not concerned with Russophobia is the war itself - unless they believe that people will love them for killing others.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 03:28:28 PM
#23
Putin has become smarter. He is getting rid of the Covid Vaccines in Russia.


PUTIN ORDERS DESTRUCTION OF ALL COVID-19 VACCINES IN RUSSIA



https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=218480
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the destruction of all Covid-19 vaccine stockpiles on Russian soil, citing an undeniable connection between what has been dubbed the “Moscow Vax” and a sudden surge of HIV infections in vaccinated persons, Federal Service Bureau agent Andrei Zakharov told Real Raw News.

Although Putin has not made a formal announcement, he has tasked his right-hand man, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, with purging hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies of the Sputnik and CoviVac vaccine variants. The military will ensure compliance by auditing vaccine repositories and performing spot inspections.

Like President Trump, Putin was deceived by a lie; a global consortium of devious doctors, health professionals, and government stooges spun a convincing yarn about a virus that would ravage the world unless vaccines were developed to inoculate the population as soon as possible. The WHO had infiltrated the Russian Ministry of Health and planted agents of evil within the Council of Ministers and State Duma, and Western propaganda—fables of people sick with Covid falling dead on the street—seeped through Russia’s once secure borders. No nation was immune to the most elaborate disinformation campaign in the history of humanity.

On 2 December 2020, Russia launched its first mass vaccination experiment, beating other nations to the punch and delivering 6.9 million doses in the first week. As of 21 June 2022, 81.5 million people have received at least one dose, with 74.3 million fully vaccinated. In the West and Russia, vaccine recipients presented side effects such as cardiac ailments, seizures, and blood clots, with many dropping dead at home, at work, or in the streets.
...



Cool
jr. member
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March 05, 2023, 12:42:45 PM
#22
Crowd goes wild. Many Americans now understand the enemy isn’t Russia or China. The enemy is the US deep state oligarchy that weaponizes intelligence services, bribes politicians and controls the media.

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1632179644576456704
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 12:37:32 PM
#21
And tell me, who is deporting innocent imaginary russians back to russia now?
Just because you can think of something doesn't make it real. Situation is quite opposite, we have literally taken russian refugees.

Read the post again. I am asking you if you are OK with this. From your earlier post I get the impression that you are agreeing with these 2 guys.

As for deporting all Russians, well, they all pose a risk. How many of them actively support Putin's regime? Do you know?

They have to be deported now or will have to be interned later.

  Russia must be isolated from civilization, like a prehistoric lizard that has survived to our time.

If you don't, then good for you. I don't see a reason to have a debate with you.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 11:41:42 AM
#20
Are you OK with these people wanting to deport these innocent Russians from Europe. What do you know about these people? (besides them being Russians) Maybe they hate Putin as much as you do. Would you feel sorry for them if they do?

They pay taxes, they have their right the vote. They are as European as the other Europeans now since they all have a European passport. What gives you the right to take these people's home from them?

They didn't kill the Ukrainians. They are trying to live their life just as anybody...

Racism is racism no matter which excuse you use as a cover.

If you hate Russia so much, why don't you ask the EU to nuke Kremlin?
Now you are just putting words in my mouth and making stuff up, why would i should be ok with racism? Because i implied that russia has their own racists?
And it very much sounds like you don't know what the fascism even means given that you are focusing on europe here.

And tell me, who is deporting innocent imaginary russians back to russia now?
Just because you can think of something doesn't make it real. Situation is quite opposite, we have literally taken russian refugees.

If you hate Russia so much, why don't you ask the EU to nuke Kremlin?
Why are you like this? Who said i hate Russians? Maybe do a reality check.
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 08:44:06 AM
#19
C'mon folks, we are better than this!
-cut-
Let's kick fascism out of Europe.
-cut-
That's weak, we have been combating far right all along. In fact Russia has been funding far right movements and these days those movements gets their news from Kremlin troll factories. It's Russia and other totalitarian countries that are not doing anything about their fascism.

I am willing to bet that same people posting these slogans wouldn't like to see Putin's fascist regime overthrown.

And sure, i am willing to bet there are handful of westerns that hate even common Russians.
Just like there are Russians babushkas hating Ukrainians. -> https://i.imgur.com/zvykFoq.mp4
And yes, i am sure this is a small minority of people just like in western countries.


Are you OK with these people wanting to deport these innocent Russians from Europe? What do you know about these people? (besides them being Russians) Maybe they hate Putin as much as you do. Would you feel sorry for them if they do?

They pay taxes, they have their right the vote. They are as European as the other Europeans now since they all have a European passport. What gives you the right to take these people's home from them?

They didn't kill the Ukrainians. They are trying to live their life just as anybody...

Racism is racism no matter which excuse you use as a cover.

If you hate Russia so much, why don't you ask the EU to nuke Kremlin?
legendary
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March 05, 2023, 07:56:36 AM
#18
C'mon folks, we are better than this!
-cut-
Let's kick fascism out of Europe.
-cut-
That's weak, we have been combating far right all along. In fact Russia has been funding far right movements and these days those movements gets their news from Kremlin troll factories. It's Russia and other totalitarian countries that are not doing anything about their fascism.

I am willing to bet that same people posting these slogans wouldn't like to see Putin's fascist regime overthrown.

And sure, i am willing to bet there are handful of westerns that hate even common Russians.
Just like there are Russians babushkas hating Ukrainians. -> https://i.imgur.com/zvykFoq.mp4
And yes, i am sure this is a small minority of people just like in western countries.
legendary
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March 04, 2023, 11:54:15 PM
#17

As for deporting all Russians, well, they all pose a risk. How many of them actively support Putin's regime? Do you know?

They have to be deported now or will have to be interned later.

All supporters of Putin in the West must be arrested and deported NOW. You can vet and deal with the rest later.

Russian imperialism kills people. If you underestimate it, you are in danger.

The West should stop diplomatic relations with Putin's Russia.

PS. Support of Putinism should be illegal in civilized countries.

  Russia must be isolated from civilization, like a prehistoric lizard that has survived to our time.
legendary
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March 03, 2023, 09:53:12 AM
#16
I would say that everything is propaganda, both sides had equal influence. For example, I can't remember a Hollywood movie where the Russians aren't some kind of villains or portrayed as bullies. again, it is not that the Russian side does not help in creating the overall picture.

Russians on the other hand don't have access to free media. They don't know how we think about them. But they are being lied to how we think about them.

a clear example of dictatorship. if we add to that poverty and a large number of uneducated people, it is a very suitable ground for manipulation.

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.

The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.

Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.

Russkiy Mir only brings misery.


Is this your opinion based on your personal experience with the Russian people, or just what you saw in the movies or read on the Internet?


Family history. Half of my family was murdered by Russians and another quarter died in gulags.

As for deporting all Russians, well, they all pose a risk. How many of them actively support Putin's regime? Do you know?

They have to be deported now or will have to be interned later.

All supporters of Putin in the West must be arrested and deported NOW. You can vet and deal with the rest later.

Russian imperialism kills people. If you underestimate it, you are in danger.

The West should stop diplomatic relations with Putin's Russia.

PS. Support of Putinism should be illegal in civilized countries.
legendary
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March 03, 2023, 08:51:39 AM
#15
-snip-

Every nation has the government it deserves. When we talk about popular support for a country, we mean its majority.

A democratic country has the government 51% of the people deserves and an authoritarian country may not even have the government a fraction of people deserves.
To be honest, it would very dumb and unfair to believe, for example, that all Brazilians are socialists because they have a socialist president. Or to say that the population of the United States is all pro war, even though there was people there who opposed the involvement of USA in the Vietnam war back in the day. Etc

So are we supposed to assume as well that all Cubans are socialists and love their government?  Roll Eyes
legendary
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March 03, 2023, 08:43:49 AM
#14
I would say that everything is propaganda, both sides had equal influence. For example, I can't remember a Hollywood movie where the Russians aren't some kind of villains or portrayed as bullies. again, it is not that the Russian side does not help in creating the overall picture.

Russians on the other hand don't have access to free media. They don't know how we think about them. But they are being lied to how we think about them.

a clear example of dictatorship. if we add to that poverty and a large number of uneducated people, it is a very suitable ground for manipulation.

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.

The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.

Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.

Russkiy Mir only brings misery.


Is this your opinion based on your personal experience with the Russian people, or just what you saw in the movies or read on the Internet?
legendary
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March 03, 2023, 08:16:52 AM
#13
I thought it was clear we need to learn how to separate the government from the people.
The same way there are Russian citizens who believe that the invasion against Ukraine is okey and justified, there are also citizens who are against the war and the current political situation in the country, they just can't openly talk about it, because obvious reasons.

Discrimination against anyone only because their nationality is wrong and it is kind of a stereotype to believe all Russians are the same, so would be to assume all Americans are the same.

Also, this reminds me a case which happened recently over a video game with a Soviet style called "Atomic Heart", some people tried to cancel it just because of it.

Every nation has the government it deserves. When we talk about popular support for a country, we mean its majority.
legendary
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March 03, 2023, 07:58:45 AM
#12
I thought it was clear we need to learn how to separate the government from the people.
The same way there are Russian citizens who believe that the invasion against Ukraine is okey and justified, there are also citizens who are against the war and the current political situation in the country, they just can't openly talk about it, because obvious reasons.

Discrimination against anyone only because their nationality is wrong and it is kind of a stereotype to believe all Russians are the same, so would be to assume all Americans are the same.

Also, this reminds me a case which happened recently over a video game with a Soviet style called "Atomic Heart", some people tried to cancel it just because of it.
legendary
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March 03, 2023, 07:00:07 AM
#11


I imagine that Russophobia has origins dating back to the communist era, and that Putin's recent actions will not help some Westerners to not fall into the trap of mixing population and government.

In my country (I live in Bulgaria), the vast majority of people are clearly opposed to the invasion of Ukraine, but they are not russophobics. We should not underestimate people, it is not because 10 idiots make a lot of noise being racist towards Russians, that the majority of people are like them, quite the contrary.

  You are a Bulgarian, Bulgaria was not a colony of Russia, and the peoples of the Caucasus, for example, experienced the cruelty of Russia long before Communism. They were destroyed, deported. For example, the Circassian people disappeared, and this was one of the many peoples of the Caucasus. The remnants of this people today live in Turkey and Israel, they lost their homeland through the fault of the Russians. The same can be said about the other colonial peoples of the Russian Empire. And to evaluate their Russophobia in 10 idiots is not reasonable. And who is the idiot here is a big question.
hero member
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March 03, 2023, 05:29:54 AM
#10
There is no reason to be russophobic, I think that all people ask for the same thing: to live a quiet life, not to lack anything, and to be in peace.
When we see the number of Russians who left Russia, I think that confirms this theory.

For me, there is no reason to hate the Russian people, during all my visits to Russia, I was extraordinarily welcomed by villagers and lovely Babushkas who invited to eat, drink, and who took time to tell me about their past life in form-USSR and actual Russia. This was more that interesting.

On the other hand, it is clear that many citizens (in Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya etc..) have good reasons to hate Russian politicians and government.
I think that anyone with a brain is able to make a difference between the people and their government, even more so when you know how the Kremlin propaganda works, you can't blame a part of the people for being biased.

I imagine that Russophobia has origins dating back to the communist era, and that Putin's recent actions will not help some Westerners to not fall into the trap of mixing population and government.

In my country (I live in Bulgaria), the vast majority of people are clearly opposed to the invasion of Ukraine, but they are not russophobics. We should not underestimate people, it is not because 10 idiots make a lot of noise being racist towards Russians, that the majority of people are like them, quite the contrary.

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