Topic: Russophobia as a phenomenon - page 3. (Read 535 times)

I have a friend that hates ducks, but that does not make "duckophobia" more real than Santa Claus.

There will always be racism and fascism, but there is no threat to the Russian culture, traditions or any other expression that could be classed as "Russian". Please, be all very aware of the current RF government trying to appear to be a defender of "values", they are not, they are just criminals. The divide is artificial and voiced by a government that need their population to hate others to hide their own ineptitude. A classic tactic - if things go poorly at home, look for an enemy outside.

A clear proof that the government is not concerned with Russophobia is the war itself - unless they believe that people will love them for killing others.

Putin has become smarter. He is getting rid of the Covid Vaccines in Russia.


PUTIN ORDERS DESTRUCTION OF ALL COVID-19 VACCINES IN RUSSIA

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https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=218480
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered the destruction of all Covid-19 vaccine stockpiles on Russian soil, citing an undeniable connection between what has been dubbed the “Moscow Vax” and a sudden surge of HIV infections in vaccinated persons, Federal Service Bureau agent Andrei Zakharov told Real Raw News.

Although Putin has not made a formal announcement, he has tasked his right-hand man, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, with purging hospitals, clinics, and pharmacies of the Sputnik and CoviVac vaccine variants. The military will ensure compliance by auditing vaccine repositories and performing spot inspections.

Like President Trump, Putin was deceived by a lie; a global consortium of devious doctors, health professionals, and government stooges spun a convincing yarn about a virus that would ravage the world unless vaccines were developed to inoculate the population as soon as possible. The WHO had infiltrated the Russian Ministry of Health and planted agents of evil within the Council of Ministers and State Duma, and Western propaganda—fables of people sick with Covid falling dead on the street—seeped through Russia’s once secure borders. No nation was immune to the most elaborate disinformation campaign in the history of humanity.

On 2 December 2020, Russia launched its first mass vaccination experiment, beating other nations to the punch and delivering 6.9 million doses in the first week. As of 21 June 2022, 81.5 million people have received at least one dose, with 74.3 million fully vaccinated. In the West and Russia, vaccine recipients presented side effects such as cardiac ailments, seizures, and blood clots, with many dropping dead at home, at work, or in the streets.
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Crowd goes wild. Many Americans now understand the enemy isn’t Russia or China. The enemy is the US deep state oligarchy that weaponizes intelligence services, bribes politicians and controls the media.

https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1632179644576456704

Read the post again. I am asking you if you are OK with this. From your earlier post I get the impression that you are agreeing with these 2 guys.


If you don't, then good for you. I don't see a reason to have a debate with you.

Now you are just putting words in my mouth and making stuff up, why would i should be ok with racism? Because i implied that russia has their own racists?
And it very much sounds like you don't know what the fascism even means given that you are focusing on europe here.

And tell me, who is deporting innocent imaginary russians back to russia now?
Just because you can think of something doesn't make it real. Situation is quite opposite, we have literally taken russian refugees.

Why are you like this? Who said i hate Russians? Maybe do a reality check.

Are you OK with these people wanting to deport these innocent Russians from Europe? What do you know about these people? (besides them being Russians) Maybe they hate Putin as much as you do. Would you feel sorry for them if they do?

They pay taxes, they have their right the vote. They are as European as the other Europeans now since they all have a European passport. What gives you the right to take these people's home from them?

They didn't kill the Ukrainians. They are trying to live their life just as anybody...

Racism is racism no matter which excuse you use as a cover.

If you hate Russia so much, why don't you ask the EU to nuke Kremlin?

That's weak, we have been combating far right all along. In fact Russia has been funding far right movements and these days those movements gets their news from Kremlin troll factories. It's Russia and other totalitarian countries that are not doing anything about their fascism.

I am willing to bet that same people posting these slogans wouldn't like to see Putin's fascist regime overthrown.

And sure, i am willing to bet there are handful of westerns that hate even common Russians.
Just like there are Russians babushkas hating Ukrainians. -> https://i.imgur.com/zvykFoq.mp4
And yes, i am sure this is a small minority of people just like in western countries.

  Russia must be isolated from civilization, like a prehistoric lizard that has survived to our time.

A democratic country has the government 51% of the people deserves and an authoritarian country may not even have the government a fraction of people deserves.
To be honest, it would very dumb and unfair to believe, for example, that all Brazilians are socialists because they have a socialist president. Or to say that the population of the United States is all pro war, even though there was people there who opposed the involvement of USA in the Vietnam war back in the day. Etc

So are we supposed to assume as well that all Cubans are socialists and love their government?  

I would say that everything is propaganda, both sides had equal influence. For example, I can't remember a Hollywood movie where the Russians aren't some kind of villains or portrayed as bullies. again, it is not that the Russian side does not help in creating the overall picture.


a clear example of dictatorship. if we add to that poverty and a large number of uneducated people, it is a very suitable ground for manipulation.


Is this your opinion based on your personal experience with the Russian people, or just what you saw in the movies or read on the Internet?

Every nation has the government it deserves. When we talk about popular support for a country, we mean its majority.

I thought it was clear we need to learn how to separate the government from the people.
The same way there are Russian citizens who believe that the invasion against Ukraine is okey and justified, there are also citizens who are against the war and the current political situation in the country, they just can't openly talk about it, because obvious reasons.

Discrimination against anyone only because their nationality is wrong and it is kind of a stereotype to believe all Russians are the same, so would be to assume all Americans are the same.

Also, this reminds me a case which happened recently over a video game with a Soviet style called "Atomic Heart", some people tried to cancel it just because of it.

  You are a Bulgarian, Bulgaria was not a colony of Russia, and the peoples of the Caucasus, for example, experienced the cruelty of Russia long before Communism. They were destroyed, deported. For example, the Circassian people disappeared, and this was one of the many peoples of the Caucasus. The remnants of this people today live in Turkey and Israel, they lost their homeland through the fault of the Russians. The same can be said about the other colonial peoples of the Russian Empire. And to evaluate their Russophobia in 10 idiots is not reasonable. And who is the idiot here is a big question.

There is no reason to be russophobic, I think that all people ask for the same thing: to live a quiet life, not to lack anything, and to be in peace.
When we see the number of Russians who left Russia, I think that confirms this theory.

For me, there is no reason to hate the Russian people, during all my visits to Russia, I was extraordinarily welcomed by villagers and lovely Babushkas who invited to eat, drink, and who took time to tell me about their past life in form-USSR and actual Russia. This was more that interesting.

On the other hand, it is clear that many citizens (in Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya etc..) have good reasons to hate Russian politicians and government.
I think that anyone with a brain is able to make a difference between the people and their government, even more so when you know how the Kremlin propaganda works, you can't blame a part of the people for being biased.

I imagine that Russophobia has origins dating back to the communist era, and that Putin's recent actions will not help some Westerners to not fall into the trap of mixing population and government.

In my country (I live in Bulgaria), the vast majority of people are clearly opposed to the invasion of Ukraine, but they are not russophobics. We should not underestimate people, it is not because 10 idiots make a lot of noise being racist towards Russians, that the majority of people are like them, quite the contrary.

It exists in this thread. Have you seen these 2 guys' posts?

This one says most Russians are violent and only bring misery.


Read the other dude:


Why would all the Russians deserve to be deported? Just because they are Russians? Where is the common sense in that?

Now tell me these guys ain't Russophobes. They are indeed.

Or are you telling me... these guys are Kremlin propagandists acting like Russophobes?

Maybe you are onto something. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if these 2 guys are hardcore Russians.  

The last time Europe went full Hitler no good thing happened to them. Hopefully it won't happen again.

I have Russian friends, Georgian friends and Ukrainian friends. The "Russophobia" does not exist, is an invention of the Kremlin propagandists to justify their un-justifiable aggression. The world is not against Russians, it is against an illegal war waged by the current government and military ranks of the Russian Federation.

In war times, the enemy is the enemy and it is unclear who can potentially be a spy, so actors and others may of course be banned.

RE fascism and Europe, poverty attracts simple and wrong solutions to complex problems. Fascism is a simple and wrong solution that comes when people are disappointed with democracy.

For example in Finland where i live, next to Russia. We don't hate russians. But because of actions of their home country we are way more suspicious.
I have visited russia often and i have russian friends, my ex girlfriend used to organize travels for tourists in there. And before putin went crazy we actually had hopes of having good ties with the country.

But we fucking hate putler and putinist propaganda, and yeah for sure we hate russians who defend actions of putin yet choose to live in here. Same way as we hate handful of finnish trolls who are for putin. They are basically enemy combatants of refugees living in here and big middle finger to them. I think that they should be under same sanctions as people who live in russia.
Yet we don't judge anyone just by speaking Russian language. But if i was Russian living aboard, i would be so shamed of my country's actions i wouldn't want to risk it by speaking Russian language and would totally understand that there might be people who hate my guts.

Being a Russian now is like being a son of a Hitler. Sure, you are not responsible of the actions of your father but it's fair to assume you are being hated for him unless you are very vocal against him.

On the other hand, as we have free access to russian media, we can see how much we are being demonized there. We are the next nazis they are after as they definitely are paving the way to attack in here and want to "free" our people. For quite a long time now we have seen fake news in there as we can monitor them pretty easily. They are slowly turning their people against us too.

Russians on the other hand don't have access to free media. They don't know how we think about them. But they are being lied to how we think about them.

C'mon folks, we are better than this!





Let's kick fascism out of Europe.

 Yes, right! Russians must be deported! The fact is that most of them are young, and it is they who, as they have seen the advantage of democracy, should remove Putin.