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Topic: RX5704GB*13 or 1070TI*7 or 1080TI*5 (Read 462 times)

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February 09, 2018, 11:24:37 PM
#33
I would vouch for nivdia as there a lot of coin opinions to mine with than amd but in your case you already having amd card which is focused on ethereum mining and i think it will better profit for you to maximize that hash power on eth and the 13 amd would be the best choice to do so
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February 09, 2018, 11:15:24 PM
#32
before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.
Well, you're losing $1 in revenue per day. Are you saving $1 in energy? You do if your electricity is above $0.20 per kWh.

yes, im paying for $0.2 per kWh

is that worth the loss of hashrate?

before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.
Well, you're losing $1 in revenue per day. Are you saving $1 in energy? You do if your electricity is above $0.20 per kWh.

Another way to look at it, is that by cutting 200W of power he now has the capacity to mine with 2 more cards, which would more than make up for the decreased hashrate.

you mean i can use 15 identical cards in 1 rig? ill upgrade to asus b250 mining expert if that so. but i never plan to use other OS, i just want windows 10. i believe, we're just limited at 13 gpu in windows 10.

regarding you message about undevolts, yes, i quite dont understand how it works. undervolt from claymore is not matching from gpu-z's reading.
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February 09, 2018, 01:45:24 PM
#31
Will he get those cards for free?
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February 09, 2018, 01:23:52 PM
#30
before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.
Well, you're losing $1 in revenue per day. Are you saving $1 in energy? You do if your electricity is above $0.20 per kWh.

Another way to look at it, is that by cutting 200W of power he now has the capacity to mine with 2 more cards, which would more than make up for the decreased hashrate.
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February 09, 2018, 01:12:42 PM
#29
before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.
Well, you're losing $1 in revenue per day. Are you saving $1 in energy? You do if your electricity is above $0.20 per kWh.
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February 09, 2018, 12:27:08 PM
#28
Those are some decent prices but still kinda inflated. I wouldn't pay over 550 for a 1070ti and over 750 for a 1080ti. The 570s aren't too bad though but recently I find myself looking for density over quantity ie. 1070tis, 1080s etc.
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February 09, 2018, 11:55:23 AM
#27
Too bad.  You'll prob be fine though.  Those 13 570s should crank out 370 mhs on eth for quite a while, and xmr is also a backup option.

I guess if you're dualmining 1800W isn't terrible.  But the extra earnings just don't seem worth it.

actually i managed to tune it down at 1850-1900w dual mining, 1600w eth only.

before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.



I run my 570s at about 29 mhs, but even less power usage, about 100W per card at the wall, plus ~40W system usage (mobo etc.).  Hash/joule is a little better.

mind sharing your settings sir?

thanks

My asus rog strix rx 570 4 GB read around 800 mV on the GPU in AB.  Core clock is 1088.  Memory is 1925.  -mvddc 850 in Claymore, although I don't know if that's even doing anything.  According to AB each GPU is using 70-72 W.
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February 09, 2018, 11:18:06 AM
#26
Too bad.  You'll prob be fine though.  Those 13 570s should crank out 370 mhs on eth for quite a while, and xmr is also a backup option.

I guess if you're dualmining 1800W isn't terrible.  But the extra earnings just don't seem worth it.

actually i managed to tune it down at 1850-1900w dual mining, 1600w eth only.

before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.



I run my 570s at about 29 mhs, but even less power usage, about 100W per card at the wall, plus ~40W system usage (mobo etc.).  Hash/joule is a little better.

mind sharing your settings sir?

thanks
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February 09, 2018, 11:09:17 AM
#25
Too bad.  You'll prob be fine though.  Those 13 570s should crank out 370 mhs on eth for quite a while, and xmr is also a backup option.

I guess if you're dualmining 1800W isn't terrible.  But the extra earnings just don't seem worth it.

actually i managed to tune it down at 1850-1900w dual mining, 1600w eth only.

before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.



I run my 570s at about 29 mhs, but even less power usage, about 100W per card at the wall, plus ~40W system usage (mobo etc.).  Hash/joule is a little better.
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February 09, 2018, 10:04:34 AM
#24
Yeah, gpus are very hard to buy lately (even with overpriced ones). Was reading some news updated, apparently AMD is trying really hard to produce more cards so that everyone is satisfied (gamers and miners)

Would have been much better for you if you could get the 1080`s (at least they would have more resale value in the future), since those 570`s are 4gb Sad

very well said.

anyway, the nvidia was still very expensive. and might drop its price when nvidia releases new variant soon. so that might be the best time to buy. i think this 570 will be worth for atleast about a year or 2 (i hope). anyway, im quite enjoying the versatility in terms of mods and settings.

thanks for your help sirs.
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February 09, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
#23
Too bad.  You'll prob be fine though.  Those 13 570s should crank out 370 mhs on eth for quite a while, and xmr is also a backup option.

I guess if you're dualmining 1800W isn't terrible.  But the extra earnings just don't seem worth it.

actually i managed to tune it down at 1850-1900w dual mining, 1600w eth only.

before it was 31.5mhs per card, now 30.5mhs per card. i think its worth the little less hashrate for less 200w of the total wattage which was 1800w eth only before.

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February 09, 2018, 09:34:07 AM
#22
Too bad.  You'll prob be fine though.  Those 13 570s should crank out 370 mhs on eth for quite a while, and xmr is also a backup option.

I guess if you're dualmining 1800W isn't terrible.  But the extra earnings just don't seem worth it.
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February 09, 2018, 09:15:45 AM
#21
Yeah, gpus are very hard to buy lately (even with overpriced ones). Was reading some news updated, apparently AMD is trying really hard to produce more cards so that everyone is satisfied (gamers and miners)

Would have been much better for you if you could get the 1080`s (at least they would have more resale value in the future), since those 570`s are 4gb Sad
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February 09, 2018, 08:39:41 AM
#20
update. so unlucky, already sold out. so im all for 13*rx570

anyway, amd might be doing good for awhile because of the new claymore dual.
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February 08, 2018, 09:08:01 PM
#19
Another fun point about the 1070ti cards. Buy the cheapest ones you can. Performance is identical comparing the most expensive founders edition super extra cool blower fan unit and 9 temp sensors with the most basic. I am running the zotac mini as it needs only 1 plug.
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February 08, 2018, 08:09:59 PM
#18
Depending on your electricity costs Nvidia might be the better choice if it's expensive.

If you want to use Nicehash or jump around with algos anyway, then as some people already said, the Nvidia cards will be much better since they're more versatile.

I think you also should take other costs into account, with 13 RX570 you will most likely need more PSUs and Mainboards etc, additional costs and risk factors where you might get problems. 7 1070tis should fit on a single rig, depending on the board you get. Also don't forget the 1070 is one (or the) most efficient card when it comes to hashes/watt.

The resale value, which was mentioned before, for the AMD cards is very low, they're also not as durable as Nvidia (from my experience) cards. A 1070ti is a pretty great card and will still be usable for people even in a few years once AMD will release a new series again, and Nvidia should release their new batch around May.

Nvidia is easier to setup, no custom BIOS or other fancy things needed, just plug in, install and go, I would go for the 1070ti, or the regular 1070, not sure if the 9gbps problems are fixed yet
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February 08, 2018, 06:36:45 PM
#17
Lot more work.  And far less hedge/insurance against a shifting market.

OP already has 13 570s.  OP should diversify.
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February 08, 2018, 06:26:56 PM
#16
570, and yes, youll have more work to do. But thats all the fun!

For that price...dont think about it.
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February 08, 2018, 06:07:31 PM
#15
Ok, this will be my 2nd rig. And I allocated a budget of 5,400USD

Here are my options:

Powercolor RX 570 4GB Red Devil = $290 * 13pcs
Zotac 1070TI Mini = $620 * 7pcs
Zotac 1080TI Mini = $920 * 5pcs

If you were in my position, what will you choose in terms of profitability and faster ROI? I dont mine specific coin, I just mine whatever most current profitable because I aim to get my capital first.

I currently have Powercolor RX570 4GB Red Devil*13 rig, drawing 1800W from the wall. And currently making .0345 ETH per day (based on profit calculators as pool's calculators are so wobbly).

Thanks.


The profitability numbers for 13 RX 570's are WAY higher than 7 1070ti or 5 1080ti. For mining, always get the most profit/$.

It's true that 13 RX 570's will produce about $600/month profit in eth under current conditions.  7x 1070 Ti will product about $350/month in profit on eth and about $500/month on zec (under current conditions).  But the 570's have poor resale value and cannot mine nearly as many coins profitably.  If you can pony up for one more 1070 Ti, you could pretty much match the 570's in total profitability anyway.
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February 08, 2018, 03:08:03 PM
#14
I have an 8 card 1070ti rig after very carefully analyzing profit and ROI. The 1080ti is 24% on average more profitable (at 33% more cost based on your numbers). I calculated the RX570 cards as 12% less profitable and their resale was about 40% less. Over Christmas I babysat a RX570 rig (12 cards) and it made about 25% less than my 1070ti rig and took more power too. I'm not sure why it was so much lower than my calculations, but the 1070ti remains the best choice right now. It just doesn't make sense to buy them for another 2-3 weeks until the first few major shipments of cards arrive from asia. Now I just wish I'd find a container full of those on the shoreline...
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