Topic: Ryan Pumper: Pumpers Picks (Updated Daily) - page 134. (Read 221164 times)

You haven't provided any proof. And any proof you might supply could be bogus as it's been insinuated "Ryan" fabricated his Titcoin screen shots.  Funny thing, even the current ones posted, if you check the times on Bittrex, it still doesn't work out properly.

Given your post history of being in a coins thread during a pump and then not being around after a dump, I think we can all figure out what's up with you.  Not to mention just how hard you're defending "Ryan" and shilling for him.


Hell no, when he existed Cloak, I ended up losing a little bit of money.  But even so, as much as he's not well liked etc, he does seem to really deliver.


Like I said. Good info in the thread, can't deny that.

+ 1

I also made over 300% and I received that exact sequence of Pm's

No, sorry. Still not answering my question.

I made 3 times my money. that aside the picks we all received went up 600% so there is no way you didn't make at least 1btc.

Unless you didn't actually place any trades whatsoever, meaning your intention from the get go was to tarnish a "market manipulator" lol.

All of you're posts above (the pictures et cetera) are actually proof of profit. In fact you're doing more to promote the fact that Ryan's picks are extraordinarily profitable than anything else.

Post proof that you took any of those trades or be gone. because i don't believe you.

If you can't do that then i'm afraid that you are the scammer

Thank you itod for your support and Viper1 for sharing your experience. I appreciate it.

I think I already explained that. But one extra explanation for you. As you can see, Ryan only said, he was monitoring those coins. He didn't say anything else about them. Was I supposed to go and buy them? Or wait for a better price? Wasn't the reasoning behind every move the purpose of the membership? Where in Ryan's advert or in his first PM he sent me, does he say that all I will get are names of coins?


You do see this sentence, don't you? You did read in my original post, that I didn't receive any of such information, didn't you? Is that clear enough?

And if you're talking about evading questions, you conveniently forgot to address this:

So back on the 5th, "Ryan" sent some people a pick privately and said to buy under a certain price. If you did though, you quickly watched the price drop and, if you would have used stop loss orders etc, you would have been at a loss.  Couple days later, he sends out an update saying him and his group are in control of the coin and he gives a price range to buy into which is much lower than that first price.  Thing is, the coin never dropped to that level (had open buy orders just above his upper limit) when it finally started rising.  If you had bought in at the first price, the coin never went high enough to reach the gains he said it would.  And since it never dropped to the next level he said to buy in at, you wouldn't have got the gains either.  I did make some money though as I just played it on my own.

The end result though is that it lead me to believe that he was just hot air as he didn't control the coin the way he claimed they would and so when he came out with his group, there's no way I'd join it. Better to go with someone like Bob where you know exactly what he does and form what I can see, he delivers.

I just went and checked the charts again for that coin and it appears his first entry price was basically to get people in so he could dump on them.  There was another coin suggestion as well and when I looked at the chart last night, I noticed the same sort of thing. I had bought in where he suggested and watched it drop. I suspect he gave the pick in order to get more in to sell off his position. I was able to hedge my "bet" though so was able to minimize my loss. Checking the times on his PM to me, I find that it's right after both coins had been pumped up to a high.  Originally I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but now I'm convinced he's bogus.

So anyone that is going to pay him should be very careful.

The trading advice in the thread has been good though.

Appreciate very much that you swallowed your pride and admitting a loss to save others from this Ryan scammer. I hope others will read carefully and not learn on their own skin. If you need something to verify after Ryan denies everything (which he will certainly try) just PM me.

I like the way you dance around answering any of my questions.

I received these exact picks on the same day that you did


You admit to receiving these picks aswell. Those coins materialized near 600% in returns. that is a colossal 7 times your money.

i personally made 1.4 Bitcoins, and I invite everyone else to declare how much they made. I also invite you to prove that you took even one trade.

We already know that your real account is Louie6925 so you are using false accusation to put a point across and that is low.

There was no scam. But hey. if a guy gives a group of people the means to make 7 times their money, that person must be devil spawn.

Look, I'm not here to convince you. I clearly explained what happened and I think I've a right to state my opinion. Hopefully it will be helpful to someone.

Btw. picking on my writing style is just low. As I said, I'm not a native English speaker.

Sorry, not convinced. You are preaching the same message here as you are in the other thread that you are promoting. "pumping and market manipulation is god awful"

Same writing style. Blocks of text with no actual point being made.


I don't think anyone can comprehend what you're going on about.

Those coins scraped in damn near 600%. If you had put only 0.5 ($199 USD) towards this, you would have made 3.5BTC ($1,395 USD) in just days like i'm sure everyone else did.

There still isn't any proof that you even took any trades because, i'm sorry. this just doesn't make sense lol.

I am in the exact same group. I got those exact same picks and i made nearly 3 times my money.

Obviously your allegations of scam is an absolute crock and you have even posted proof that you received 8 picks on the first day you joined up.

At least we now know who you really are.

What? What would I gain from this? You mean I threw away 0.5 BTC and went through all of this just to link to some other thread on Bitcointalk? Thread that isn't even selling or promoting anything, just giving out advice.. Man, think!


Well let's hope others will understand. You clearly don't want to. But you could point me out in the PM history I made public, where I was briefed on that LTCD rebound.

This is the funniest thing, so obviously Louie6925 is behind this fake Johnchekko account. If you read his thread the agenda is obvious. similar writing patterns. over-cooked essay style delivery. i think we have a match.

Pumpers will pump and trolls will troll. That is crypto, get over it lol.


You mean to tell me you paid to receive some tips. Got given not one, but a slightly excessive 8 tips like we all got. The coins made good and went up 498% or actually 598% if you include that LTCD rebound which we all were briefed on = virtually 600%. and your problem is.....

I still don't get the scam. dosen't scam imply losing out somehow? not gaining 600%?

Let's start by pointing out, what Ryan says in his advert:

http://i.imgur.com/7Pc5Lai.png

Especially pay attention to the highlighted areas, stating what membership of Ryan's group includes. I liked what Ryan promised, not only that I would be advised what to do, but that I would be active participant, which would also allow me to learn how successful traders operate. Maybe naive of me, but true. I specifically asked about this in my first PM to Ryan:

http://i.imgur.com/Dbd9BSZ.png

Here is what Ryan replied to me:

http://i.imgur.com/Uoj9GAZ.png

Exactly what I wanted to hear. Daily tips on coins, group meets on IRC to discuss "moves", everything is explained and I will learn something new (educational element). Sounds nice? Well the truth is that the IRC channel doesn't exist and I never spoke to any other member. As soon as I paid the membership fee, Ryan sent me a message, that the IRC channel is down and that he's working on setting up a new one. As you can see from the PM history posted down below, at first it was supposed to be up the same day, then at the end of the week/weekend. It would probably be pushed again onto the next week which I haven't paid for so I wouldn't see it's all part of the play. I even suggested other form of real-time communication, but without response.

Absence of an IRC channel was a big bummer for me, but at least first pick arrived:

http://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png

Seems like Ryan was artificially controlling the market with a couple of other traders and his bots. So that's how it's done? Quite a disappointment. Nevertheless I stuck with the plan and followed Ryan's directions. There were further PM's exchanged about LTCD (check PM history), but the essence was this: Accumulate above 2k, up to 2.5k and be ready for a lift-off. This was the last PM:

http://i.imgur.com/35fG3eg.png

As you may know, several hours after this message, the price of LTCD plummeted. From 2.2k to 0.8k. By complete luck, I was up early to check my trading position and managed to sell in time, rebuy under 1k and profit from this situation. But had I been following Ryan's advice, I would have been in a great loss. Strangely enough, Ryan posted in this thread about how flawlessly he played this whole event (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8882241), yet I received none of that information from him. And he had the courage to tell me later in our conversation, that I profited from LTCD sell-off because of his advice.

As a coincidence, the night before, I read this nice thread from louie6925 about trading altcoins (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/must-read-especially-noobs-how-to-make-profit-785977). Later after that LTCD disaster, the second point from louie's post lead me to an idea, that this could all be orchestrated. What if Ryan told members of his group to buy at certain price range, filled his sell orders that way and then caused a dump to rebuy lower? Seemed only slightly probable at the time, but very probable after I realized what's this all about.

Somewhere during our conversation about LTCD, Ryan sent me this message:

http://i.imgur.com/OSLirgu.png

Great! That's why I signed up and what Ryan advertised in his other thread, I will receive detailed analysis of coins that are going to move. Something similar what Ryan does in this topic, but in advance. Well, sadly for me, I never received such information. All I got, was promises, that this day he will surely send the write-up about the coins.

http://i.imgur.com/oPWE9rR.png

What shocked me though, was that, when I expressed my objections, he told me, how much I could have gained had I traded each coin on my own, completely disregarding what he wrote several times earlier and what he said in his advert -> every move explained / entry/exit points / members briefed exactly what to do and when / strategy for each coin etc.

That's when I had enough and wanted a refund. Sadly Ryan didn't want to return my coins.

To create a full picture of the whole conversation, here is a complete history of my PM's with Ryan, ordered chronologically and divided into two images due to size.

http://i.imgur.com/F6q8KHB.png
http://i.imgur.com/EKcooGe.png

If necessary, I'm prepared to give access to my account to a reputable Sr.+ member to confirm that indeed all these messages are authentic and I didn't omit any.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I can't explain everything as clearly as I would like to, but hopefully the main message is understandable.

This lesson cost me 0.5 BTC and the time to write down this post. I won't get them back, but the least I can do is to warn other people not to make the same mistake as I did.

Judge for yourself, but my advice is clear: Stay away from RyanPumper and others alike and certainly don't pay him/them anything.

John

I second that and will even invite a moderator to look at my PMs for proof of picks lol. there is no way you received those tips and made nothing.

You said that hours ago, so now I'm certain that you're trolling.

I'm a part of the group aswel and there was no IRC this week. Meaning the only communication was via PM....so you should already have all the proof you need. Unless of course you are lying? which i know you are because we all received those exact picks from ryan.

I find it strange that this is your 5th post within just a few minutes yet you have made zero contributions since your registration in July. you fudster you

I don't know how is that possible. Maybe Ryan saw an easy target in me, because I had a "Newbie" member status. I will be posting my reasoning shortly.

John

I'm also a member and confused at the fact that everyone else is more than satisfied and you're the only one who didn't make money?

How is that possible?

also confused that you have been here since July, made zero posts and all of a sudden decided to turn on the megaphone to spam what has been a productive thread so far.

I know foul play when i see it as the other trolls have stopped posting and here we have some brand new guy with a brand new account continuing where they left off.

Judging from the above messages I received the exact same advice that you did and I have more than tripled my money.

if you were to be more specific about this scam you speak of you would probably be taken seriously. Since you haven't said anything noteworthy I'm left with the assumption that you're a mere spammer and a shill and wouldn't mind seeing you banned.

What a coincidence, that madalo, who's giving you positive reviews here, logged out at almost exact time as you did.

http://i.imgur.com/Zrb1dJq.png

Took you 4s to log out your alter ego in the other browser window?