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legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
December 30, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
#44

Bitcoin mining will come with noise hazard and heat!!!  for commercial mining operations you'll need the ear muff, no matter you use S5 or SP20.


I think this is where I take both you and SP-T to task for implying the S5 and SP20 are 'home' miners.  I unconditionally agree regarding commercial operations in data centers, server rooms, garages, etc.  But 'home' miners are in the home.  At stock settings, I believe neither of these would fit that category very well.

as part of my thanks for a demo unit i advised bitmain several things to make this a "home miner" (as it is the S5 is excellent for large deployment i think). I suggested a S5-silent model that costs $20 more and includes:
1) top and bottom shrouds made with the same light durable plastic as the sides. nothing fancy or bolted down zealously.
2) a second fan, OR adjusting the temperature monitoring and PWM control to keep the fan speeds down (running at 3000RPM for 40C is silly, 2000RPM and 50C would be more like an S3)
3) default speed of 325MHz. a few percent cooler/slower/quieter and easily ovewrclocked at the expense of noise
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
December 30, 2014, 03:34:01 PM
#43
The airguides on the fans aren't a sign of a crap fan. They are designed to help shape the airflow and make it more laminar. It gives some of the benefits of  a counter-rotating fan (like the Delta GFBs) without the added cost.

If you have time, use a smoke machine and look at the flow pattern of a standard fan vs one like this or the Delta FFC1212DE. It's pretty interesting.

...

The point about the fans being crap was in relation to the noise they emit AND the S5 being touted as a home miner.
On their own, the V34809 (if that is the fan used in the S5) with its Advanced Vane Axial Design, can hold its own and is well suited to a commercial environment and NOT a home one; and bitmain probably chose that particular design because of its efficiencies without taking into account the home mining environment as a major target market (but targeting them anyway!).
hero member
Activity: 924
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December 30, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
#42

Bitcoin mining will come with noise hazard and heat!!!  for commercial mining operations you'll need the ear muff, no matter you use S5 or SP20.


I think this is where I take both you and SP-T to task for implying the S5 and SP20 are 'home' miners.  I unconditionally agree regarding commercial operations in data centers, server rooms, garages, etc.  But 'home' miners are in the home.  At stock settings, I believe neither of these would fit that category very well.
Agreed.  Home mining.... can barely support the noise/heat produced not to mention your only able to run a few of these without spending a thousand to upgrade your fuse box.  I used to enjoy the hum of the S1's in my living room and  even bedroom during last winter but alas that's not the case currently.  Healthy competition, maybe let's just hope were not caught in the middle.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
December 30, 2014, 02:52:22 PM
#41
Cry
As usual, S5 will get better and better!
I appreciate your honesty this round, unlike the initial 28nm launch with the original 440GHs S3's.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
December 30, 2014, 02:44:15 PM
#40

Bitcoin mining will come with noise hazard and heat!!!  for commercial mining operations you'll need the ear muff, no matter you use S5 or SP20.


I think this is where I take both you and SP-T to task for implying the S5 and SP20 are 'home' miners.  I unconditionally agree regarding commercial operations in data centers, server rooms, garages, etc.  But 'home' miners are in the home.  At stock settings, I believe neither of these would fit that category very well.

exactly, although i am pretty sure that bitmain can put better fans on S5 (they already suggested that it might be possible through BitMW) and maybe include a pull fan.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1001
December 30, 2014, 02:40:17 PM
#39

Bitcoin mining will come with noise hazard and heat!!!  for commercial mining operations you'll need the ear muff, no matter you use S5 or SP20.


I think this is where I take both you and SP-T to task for implying the S5 and SP20 are 'home' miners.  I unconditionally agree regarding commercial operations in data centers, server rooms, garages, etc.  But 'home' miners are in the home.  At stock settings, I believe neither of these would fit that category very well.
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
December 30, 2014, 02:35:57 PM
#38
Humor is okay! 

I don't think he really means to hope our hardware to catch on fire!  We know he is not that evil!  Good group of guys over there, too!! 

He has a bitter experience with that already... 

Bitcoin World is evolving so fast and most of us works 24/7 non-stop with naps in between with super charged coffee or caffeine loaded drinks, we have to have humor and be positive to stay healthier 


YOSHI from Bitmain

*normally support staffs are monitoring this account... 

... if they have spontaneous combustion issues with the S5 ...
One can only hope  Grin
Dude. Not cool.
As long as BitcoinWarranty / Yoshi are taking it with Humor (and they do), it's ok.
tushay  lol
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
December 30, 2014, 02:32:19 PM
#37
Humor is a must okay!  

I don't think he really means to hope our hardware to catch on fire!  We know he is not that evil!  Good group of guys over there, too!!  

He has a bitter experience with that already...  

Bitcoin World is evolving so fast and most of us play works 24/7 non-stop with naps in between with super charged coffee or caffeine loaded drinks, we have to have humor and be positive to stay healthier  


YOSHI from Bitmain

*normally support staffs are monitoring this account...  

... if they have spontaneous combustion issues with the S5 ...
One can only hope  Grin
Dude. Not cool.
As long as BitcoinWarranty / Yoshi are taking it with Humor (and they do), it's ok.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
December 30, 2014, 02:26:05 PM
#36
... if they have spontaneous combustion issues with the S5 ...
One can only hope  Grin
Dude. Not cool.
As long as BitcoinWarranty / Yoshi are taking it with Humor (and they do), it's ok.

Very healthy competition and healthy fun. Nice to see it between fabricators. Shills and fanbois should learn something.
donator
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Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
December 30, 2014, 02:22:55 PM
#35
... if they have spontaneous combustion issues with the S5 ...
One can only hope  Grin
Dude. Not cool.
As long as BitcoinWarranty / Yoshi are ok with my humor (and they do), it's ok.
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
December 30, 2014, 02:15:26 PM
#34
 Cry
As usual, S5 will get better and better!
legendary
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Christian Antkow
December 30, 2014, 01:24:37 PM
#33
Gotta learn from the master! 
You're not one to speak either, considering the launch issues beyond the S1.

legendary
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Christian Antkow
December 30, 2014, 01:20:52 PM
#32
... if they have spontaneous combustion issues with the S5 ...
One can only hope  Grin
Dude. Not cool.
donator
Activity: 792
Merit: 510
December 30, 2014, 01:14:17 PM
#31
Gotta learn from the master!   Grin

Bitcoin mining will come with noise hazard and heat!!!  for commercial mining operations you'll need the ear muff, no matter you use S5 or SP20.



Hi Syke,

Thank you for the review posting!!   Cheesy
I understand you're imitating our marketing techniques, but why did you copy the miner loudness ?  Grin Grin Grin
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
December 30, 2014, 01:03:54 PM
#30
ASIC temp: 69c
Board temp: 75c
That's interesting. Anyone know where the sensors are located?
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
December 30, 2014, 01:02:28 PM
#29
Overclocked to 375 MHz. 1 hr in:

Ambient: 40c
ASIC temp: 69c
Board temp: 75c
Performance: 1250 GH/s
Power: 730 W
Efficiency: .58 J/GH (low efficiency Bronze PSU)
hero member
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
December 30, 2014, 12:17:09 PM
#28
Hi Syke,

Thank you for the review posting!!   Cheesy
I understand you're imitating our marketing techniques, but why did you copy the miner loudness ?  Grin Grin Grin

So SP, does that mean since everybody is copying, you are going to lower your price and actually report your SP20 as a 1.1-1.3T miner? Smiley
I've tested a bunch all 1.5-1.6 a few at 1.7, 1 at 1.4 due to a dead ASIC. It really depends on the environment they are in, if they are in a well cooled space they work at the advertised speeds. Well cooled isn't in most homes.
donator
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1051
Spondoolies, Beam & DAGlabs
December 30, 2014, 12:16:54 PM
#27
... if they have spontaneous combustion issues with the S5 ...
One can only hope  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
December 30, 2014, 12:13:13 PM
#26
Does anyone else here have a 50A+ adjustable power supply? I'd be interested to see some efficiency numbers in the range of 9V-14V.

Now that they have a good ASIC, I would hope they have a board in design that can adjust voltages. This would be a perfect setup for the S6.
I guess it will depend if they have spontaneous combustion issues with the S5. I don't imagine they'd want to go back to buying VRM components for the S6 unless they need to.
What they might do is include a server PSU where you can trim the output voltage through PMBus instead of an ATX supply, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Tongue
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
December 30, 2014, 12:07:36 PM
#25
Does anyone else here have a 50A+ adjustable power supply? I'd be interested to see some efficiency numbers in the range of 9V-14V.

Now that they have a good ASIC, I would hope they have a board in design that can adjust voltages. This would be a perfect setup for the S6.
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