Safest locations to be in 2022 this year any ideas ?

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Quote from: be.open on March 27, 2022, 09:51:09 PM

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I have watched this most remote island named Tristan da Cunha and I think if things got worst and there goes the nuclear war, that could be one of the safest places on the planet.

I would not call any island or place on the mainland near the ocean a safe place due to the tsunami.

That's the only risk when it comes to these remote islands. I've seen the area through those videos that I've watched and I think it's really a peaceful island unless there's some hidden truth with that nicest and most peaceful vibes that I've seen.

It's like settling on the side of an active volcano and telling everyone that the place is very safe - except for the only risk that one day an eruption is possible and red-hot lava will make its way through your backyard. Threats of this magnitude should not be underestimated or completely discounted if you want a truly safe place.

You're right.

I just saw some news about eruption of active volcanos. Well, I guess that the only way of telling them that remote places to be safe is that when the volcanos near them are no longer active.

Still, even if I say that they're safe, you've mentioned about the next possible acts of God since they're near to the seas, Tsunami is the next risk and worry.

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Quote from: sunsilk on March 27, 2022, 04:14:53 PM

Quote from: be.open on March 27, 2022, 02:00:19 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on March 26, 2022, 01:55:21 PM

I have watched this most remote island named Tristan da Cunha and I think if things got worst and there goes the nuclear war, that could be one of the safest places on the planet.

I would not call any island or place on the mainland near the ocean a safe place due to the tsunami.

That's the only risk when it comes to these remote islands. I've seen the area through those videos that I've watched and I think it's really a peaceful island unless there's some hidden truth with that nicest and most peaceful vibes that I've seen.

It's like settling on the side of an active volcano and telling everyone that the place is very safe - except for the only risk that one day an eruption is possible and red-hot lava will make its way through your backyard. Threats of this magnitude should not be underestimated or completely discounted if you want a truly safe place.

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Quote from: be.open on March 27, 2022, 02:00:19 AM

Quote from: sunsilk on March 26, 2022, 01:55:21 PM

I have watched this most remote island named Tristan da Cunha and I think if things got worst and there goes the nuclear war, that could be one of the safest places on the planet.

I would not call any island or place on the mainland near the ocean a safe place due to the tsunami.

That's the only risk when it comes to these remote islands. I've seen the area through those videos that I've watched and I think it's really a peaceful island unless there's some hidden truth with that nicest and most peaceful vibes that I've seen.

Quote from: be.open on March 27, 2022, 02:00:19 AM

I think the safest place in the world right now is Mongolia, inland between Russia and China.

Well, not going against that and I know what's the reason and you actually have the point of telling that they could be the safe place now. I've got people that I know from China and they just come back and forth there anytime they want. They're living ahead of me and they're feeling safe with what's happening in the world right now.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on March 26, 2022, 03:02:34 AM

But obviously that's not what happened. Putin is as cold-blooded and ruthless as everyone thought, but it appears he's not quite the cerebral strategist that he seems. This invasion has proven quite a miscalculation. It does look like the Russian military is struggling a bit now. I think he might take a decent exit route if one can be arranged. Latest news appears to be that they're shifting their goals to say the offensive across all of Ukraine was just to weaken the Ukrainian military, so that Russia could proceed with taking Donbas, which was what they "really" wanted all along. This could certainly drag on, but it may be that Russia is genuinely looking for a way out of this mess now.

Yeah, he thought his army would just walk into Ukraine, Over through the government, install a puppet government and think people Ukrainians would just welcome him with open arms in the shortest time possible, but it has so far been a big fail for him.

Putin's army recoiling back to claim the Donbas Region is akin to a dog running away with a tail tucked between its legs after getting beaten Grin

Quote from: Ultegra134 on March 26, 2022, 08:43:30 AM

What's surprising me though is that Russia is claimed to be one of the largest superpowers in terms of military, but instead, we're seeing old, and outdated machinery. Is this a plan, or isn't actually that advanced?

Maybe the underestimated the Ukrainians and also didn't expect other countries to help Ukraine with arms.

Also, I believe they have more in their Arsenal, and they don't want to display the tech early enough. War is like playing Chess. You start with pawns. You can't throw out all your latest Technology at a country like Ukraine, even before you have faced off with Countries of your same level like the US or China.

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Quote from: sunsilk on March 26, 2022, 01:55:21 PM

I have watched this most remote island named Tristan da Cunha and I think if things got worst and there goes the nuclear war, that could be one of the safest places on the planet.

I would not call any island or place on the mainland near the ocean a safe place due to the tsunami.

I think the safest place in the world right now is Mongolia, inland between Russia and China.

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I have watched this most remote island named Tristan da Cunha and I think if things got worst and there goes the nuclear war, that could be one of the safest places on the planet.

Well anyway, you really can't imagine what's on it for this year and for the next year. Can't be these countries and superpowers think of the safety of the people?

They can't reign if most of the people are already dead with what they're doing right now.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on March 26, 2022, 03:02:34 AM

Quote from: Ultegra134 on March 26, 2022, 01:12:32 AM

I'm not that surprised that Putin actually invaded Ukraine. To be honest, after the annexation of Crimea, it was kind of expected. I'm hoping that the situation de-escalates in the upcoming month, although, I'm reading projections that it could even last till May.

I was quite surprised that he invaded, I thought it was mostly macho posturing to see how far he could push the west, and maybe get the Donbas region to secede and join Russia, inching them closer to enveloping Crimea in Russia proper, rather than just an isolated outcrop of "Russia"... get the west to agree that Ukraine wouldn't join NATO, and maybe also formal international recognition of Crimea as Russian.

But obviously that's not what happened. Putin is as cold-blooded and ruthless as everyone thought, but it appears he's not quite the cerebral strategist that he seems. This invasion has proven quite a miscalculation. It does look like the Russian military is struggling a bit now. I think he might take a decent exit route if one can be arranged. Latest news appears to be that they're shifting their goals to say the offensive across all of Ukraine was just to weaken the Ukrainian military, so that Russia could proceed with taking Donbas, which was what they "really" wanted all along. This could certainly drag on, but it may be that Russia is genuinely looking for a way out of this mess now.

The invasion certainly didn't go as planned, Putin believed that he could claim Kyiv in a few days at most, but was met with adverse resistance from Ukraine. Crimea hasn't been officially recognized as Russian territory, if I'm not mistaken, which is something Putin is now aiming for, along with the Donbas and Luhansk region.

What's surprising me though is that Russia is claimed to be one of the largest superpowers in terms of military, but instead, we're seeing old, and outdated machinery. Is this a plan, or isn't actually that advanced?

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Somewhere away from US and EU, Probably on Australia or an island like Hawaii which is not a strategic location for war purposes. Although I’m sure that the current chaos in Ukraine will not gonna escalate further because Russian Forces is already slowing down and doing some desperate move just to force Ukraine to surrender which will not gonna happened due to there unlimited supply of ammunition for this war. Russia will surely suffer on this Atrocity maybe not this year but in the near future.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on March 26, 2022, 01:12:32 AM

I'm not that surprised that Putin actually invaded Ukraine. To be honest, after the annexation of Crimea, it was kind of expected. I'm hoping that the situation de-escalates in the upcoming month, although, I'm reading projections that it could even last till May.

I was quite surprised that he invaded, I thought it was mostly macho posturing to see how far he could push the west, and maybe get the Donbas region to secede and join Russia, inching them closer to enveloping Crimea in Russia proper, rather than just an isolated outcrop of "Russia"... get the west to agree that Ukraine wouldn't join NATO, and maybe also formal international recognition of Crimea as Russian.

But obviously that's not what happened. Putin is as cold-blooded and ruthless as everyone thought, but it appears he's not quite the cerebral strategist that he seems. This invasion has proven quite a miscalculation. It does look like the Russian military is struggling a bit now. I think he might take a decent exit route if one can be arranged. Latest news appears to be that they're shifting their goals to say the offensive across all of Ukraine was just to weaken the Ukrainian military, so that Russia could proceed with taking Donbas, which was what they "really" wanted all along. This could certainly drag on, but it may be that Russia is genuinely looking for a way out of this mess now.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on March 25, 2022, 05:47:02 PM

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I find the scenario of a large scale World War highly unlikely, thus, I believe that anywhere in Europe is safe enough, except the neighbouring countries of Russia, especially those who are not in NATO (such as Moldova or Georgia) or in the worst case scenario, the Baltic countries, such as Lithuania or Estonia.

It seems unlikely until suddenly it becomes likely. Remember how not so many of us thought Russian would not just go on to invade a fully independent state of Ukraine, but then they did after some weeks of "Military drills" along the boarder.

Right now, as thing stands. North Korea has also start carrying out nuclear tests, which they had stopped doing with the ballistic missile landing near the coast of Japan. South Korea also displaced some of its missiles around the same time, trying to indirectly signal to North Korea that they are not napping. What we are seeing here is a dick measuring contest between countries with Nuclear weapons, and this can easily escalate into a widespread war with different Countries taking sides.

Maybe Countries in South America and Africa wouldn't be involved in the war so much.

Certainly, the possibility is always there, however, I'm not that surprised that Putin actually invaded Ukraine. To be honest, after the annexation of Crimea, it was kind of expected. I'm hoping that the situation de-escalates in the upcoming month, although, I'm reading projections that it could even last till May.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on March 25, 2022, 05:14:43 PM

I find the scenario of a large scale World War highly unlikely, thus, I believe that anywhere in Europe is safe enough, except the neighbouring countries of Russia, especially those who are not in NATO (such as Moldova or Georgia) or in the worst case scenario, the Baltic countries, such as Lithuania or Estonia.

It seems unlikely until suddenly it becomes likely. Remember how not so many of us thought Russian would not just go on to invade a fully independent state of Ukraine, but then they did after some weeks of "Military drills" along the boarder.

Right now, as thing stands. North Korea has also start carrying out nuclear tests, which they had stopped doing with the ballistic missile landing near the coast of Japan. South Korea also displaced some of its missiles around the same time, trying to indirectly signal to North Korea that they are not napping. What we are seeing here is a dick measuring contest between countries with Nuclear weapons, and this can easily escalate into a widespread war with different Countries taking sides.

Maybe Countries in South America and Africa wouldn't be involved in the war so much.

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I find the scenario of a large scale World War highly unlikely, thus, I believe that anywhere in Europe is safe enough, except the neighbouring countries of Russia, especially those who are not in NATO (such as Moldova or Georgia) or in the worst case scenario, the Baltic countries, such as Lithuania or Estonia.

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Why swing ?? Moscow can send nukes direct without swing drwa again

There is no swing, that's a straight line across the surface of the Earth. It's just that the Earth is round, not flat, that's why it looks curved.
Try it yourself on Google Earth...

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Quote from: LTU_btc on March 24, 2022, 04:38:08 PM

When I saw title of thread, my first thought also was New Zealand. What else? Maybe one of South Anerican countries. Not Brazil or Venezula definitely. But in general, this contintent feels like forgotten by God's. Greenland or Iceland seems to be very safe place too.

I think Greenland or Iceland would be a bad idea, too. Whilst they are remote, they are also quite inhospitable (Greenland in particular), and not a pleasant place to wait out the end of the world. But the main reason I'd say to avoid these two places is that the normal Mercator projection of the world map is really misleading. Obviously the world is (roughly) spherical, and the shortest distance between two points is not a straight line on a Mercator map. It turns out that Iceland and Greenland are directly in the Moscow-New York flight path. So if we're talking end of the world, there's a decent chance of nuclear missiles flying directly overhead.

https://www.greatcirclemap.com/?routes=SVO-JFK

As for South America (or even South Africa), whilst they're likely to be a long way from the centre of any action, they are also a part of a heavily-populated continental landmass. If this is your safe haven whilst the rest of the world burns, chances are that you'll end up with millions of unwelcome and heavily-armed visitors. Whereas New Zealand is isolated by 1,000 miles of ocean from Australia, the nearest big landmass.

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the safest location according to each individual must be different.
and I personally think the safest is in the greenest country and there are still many mountains and animals and complete ecosystems. because when there is war then money will be meaningless. but the food is the most important. and in a mountain or forest that is still full of animals and plants or a complete ecosystem, that's my best choice.

but where is there such a country? Anyone knows?

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Quote from: 325btc on March 24, 2022, 06:39:49 AM

As we know thing could turn to be bad whts ideas of safe and same time nice locations ?
Here is some ideas: usa miami new york also why new york becouse federal bank of new york located there literrally whole western economy is directed from there thrgugh money supply and rates.so definately they want to keep this location untouched of war.
In europe off course switzerland and monaco ....maybe uk london ? Any more ideas ?

Remember, if world war III were to occur, It will be themed as the Nuclear war for obvious reasons because so many Nations right now have lots of Nuclear warhead enough to destroy the world in hours. Not like the old times when it would just be guns, simple bombs and chemical warfare.

So even New York would not be safe from a nuclear attack and destruction.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on March 24, 2022, 09:57:13 AM

New Zealand seems to be the nuclear bunker of choice for the billionaires. Might be worth a look. It's sufficiently remote, large-ish, with a tolerable climate.

When I saw title of thread, my first thought also was New Zealand. What else? Maybe one of South Anerican countries. Not Brazil or Venezula definitely. But in general, this contintent feels like forgotten by God's. Greenland or Iceland seems to be very safe place too.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on March 24, 2022, 09:57:13 AM

Quote from: 325btc on March 24, 2022, 06:39:49 AM

As we know thing could turn to be bad whts ideas of safe and same time nice locations ?
Here is some ideas: usa miami new york also why new york becouse federal bank of new york located there literrally whole western economy is directed from there thrgugh money supply and rates.so definately they want to keep this location untouched of war.
In europe off course switzerland and monaco ....maybe uk london ? Any more ideas ?

I don't think London or New York would be great choices.

New Zealand seems to be the nuclear bunker of choice for the billionaires. Might be worth a look. It's sufficiently remote, large-ish, with a tolerable climate.
Here's an interesting article from a few years back about Peter Thiel making pre-apocalypse preparations there.

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately for me my country would be too close to the action if ever (near China). Only option is to go up the mountains.

I guess NZ is really a good choice since AUS have to fall first for it to be in any threat. I wonder how South America would be during WW3, they didn't seemed to have been involved that much during WW2.

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Quote from: 325btc on March 24, 2022, 06:39:49 AM

As we know thing could turn to be bad whts ideas of safe and same time nice locations ?
Here is some ideas: usa miami new york also why new york becouse federal bank of new york located there literrally whole western economy is directed from there thrgugh money supply and rates.so definately they want to keep this location untouched of war.
In europe off course switzerland and monaco ....maybe uk london ? Any more ideas ?

I don't think London or New York would be great choices.

New Zealand seems to be the nuclear bunker of choice for the billionaires. Might be worth a look. It's sufficiently remote, large-ish, with a tolerable climate.
Here's an interesting article from a few years back about Peter Thiel making pre-apocalypse preparations there.

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As we know thing could turn to be bad whts ideas of safe and same time nice locations ?
Here is some ideas: usa miami new york also why new york becouse federal bank of new york located there literrally whole western economy is directed from there thrgugh money supply and rates.so definately they want to keep this location untouched of war.
In europe off course switzerland and monaco ....maybe uk london ? Any more ideas ?

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