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September 22, 2014, 08:47:42 PM
#28
So you want to say this is a big scam because dev mined first 9 blocks(8748 coins) and when he will dump this now on exchange he will make 0,05843664 btc. FUCK HE WILL BE RICH.
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September 22, 2014, 08:46:42 PM
#27
Am i expected to take the input from someone who is profiting from the coin being mined, to be unbias? I think not. My only interest is in the community and i know what i am seeing here. So again, let's let the dev defend the accusations for himself and perhaps introduce himself by his real name or on his real bct account?

I'm waiting..

" My only interest is in the community "
Oh really? oh HI Ugethit, is this another of your sock puppets or is this the real one?
Heaven forbid that someone might show some signs of altruism. Cryptocurrency, the community that attacks those that ask the right questions. Or should i say, those with vested interests who attack those that ask the right questions to defend their slice of the pie.

Stop lying, you're not asking questions, you're spreading FUD. And no, you're not acting out of altruism, you're just another FUDSTER part of that large P&D group, no one's listening to you guys anymore.
Drop Dead.
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September 22, 2014, 08:45:47 PM
#26
I'm tired of seeing posts like this, what's you EVIDENCE to claim this coin's a scam?.
It's not a scam until proven otherwise, I'm sick and tired and I know a lot of people are to keep watching these cunts cop-wannabee spreading FUD about every single coin that's launched and might have a future.


Think about what you are saying? You are saying that it is wrong to ask questions, in a community where scamming is so prevalent and rife? That when i see a dev with tough questions to answer who is, instead of responding to them like any other innocent-minded human being, deletes the question and hides like a coward? To this minute he still has not answered a single question. Is that not suspicious to you, particularly considering the original thread he made he deleted and then thirty mins after mining it reappears. And because it was a small premine you think this can be vouching for his ignorance. Did you ever for once stop to think that, especially given his high school grade English in any of his mumbling posts, he is an incredibly stupid scammer and cannot even muster the hashpower to take advantage of what he set out to do?

Again, why don't we let him answer this instead of giving him fodder to regurgitate when he finally grows a pair and decides to answer?
It is one thing to ASK QUESTIONS and another one to accuse someone of being a scammer without  any evidence whatsoever.
He deleted your comment because it was a blatant accusation and a very agressive one, even threatening. Who the fuck do you think you are? What did your dad rape you or something?
Get lost scammer
look at you trying to take the moral high ground then getting all personal and low brow in the next sentence. Pathetic. I can only imagine your emotion is because you also have some kind of involvement, mining or other with that coin.

I'll break it down for you one more time so you cannot ignore it:

1. If someone asks a dev a question that relates to a premine or instamine then it should be answered. Those questions got deleted.
2. If the dev was capable of answering those questions, it is logical to do so instead of deleting them.
3. The dev could not answer the questions so continued to delete them from various different users, thinking we would go away.
4. To this minute, the dev has not explained his deletions, the original thread deletion, the premine or why he cannot tell us anything about him that would identify him. I will remind you that all good alt coins today, XC, sync, via etc all have publicly known devs and teams.

You are ignoring the facts to suit your predisposed beliefs. If you can't be objective your opinion is worth nothing. The dev needs to answer for any defenses you make to be worth anything.
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September 22, 2014, 08:41:18 PM
#25
Am i expected to take the input from someone who is profiting from the coin being mined, to be unbias? I think not. My only interest is in the community and i know what i am seeing here. So again, let's let the dev defend the accusations for himself and perhaps introduce himself by his real name or on his real bct account?

I'm waiting..

" My only interest is in the community "
Oh really? oh HI Ugethit, is this another of your sock puppets or is this the real one?
Heaven forbid that someone might show some signs of altruism. Cryptocurrency, the community that attacks those that ask the right questions. Or should i say, those with vested interests who attack those that ask the right questions to defend their slice of the pie.
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September 22, 2014, 08:41:14 PM
#24
I'm tired of seeing posts like this, what's you EVIDENCE to claim this coin's a scam?.
It's not a scam until proven otherwise, I'm sick and tired and I know a lot of people are to keep watching these cunts cop-wannabee spreading FUD about every single coin that's launched and might have a future.


Think about what you are saying? You are saying that it is wrong to ask questions, in a community where scamming is so prevalent and rife? That when i see a dev with tough questions to answer who is, instead of responding to them like any other innocent-minded human being, deletes the question and hides like a coward? To this minute he still has not answered a single question. Is that not suspicious to you, particularly considering the original thread he made he deleted and then thirty mins after mining it reappears. And because it was a small premine you think this can be vouching for his ignorance. Did you ever for once stop to think that, especially given his high school grade English in any of his mumbling posts, he is an incredibly stupid scammer and cannot even muster the hashpower to take advantage of what he set out to do?

Again, why don't we let him answer this instead of giving him fodder to regurgitate when he finally grows a pair and decides to answer?
It is one thing to ASK QUESTIONS and another one to accuse someone of being a scammer without  any evidence whatsoever.
He deleted your comment because it was a blatant accusation and a very agressive one, even threatening. Who the fuck do you think you are? What did your dad rape you or something?
Get lost scammer
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September 22, 2014, 08:39:05 PM
#23
I'm tired of seeing posts like this, what's you EVIDENCE to claim this coin's a scam?.
It's not a scam until proven otherwise, I'm sick and tired and I know a lot of people are to keep watching these cunts cop-wannabee spreading FUD about every single coin that's launched and might have a future.


Think about what you are saying? You are saying that it is wrong to ask questions, in a community where scamming is so prevalent and rife? That when i see a dev with tough questions to answer who is, instead of responding to them like any other innocent-minded human being, deletes the question and hides like a coward? To this minute he still has not answered a single question. Is that not suspicious to you, particularly considering the original thread he made he deleted and then thirty mins after mining it reappears. And because it was a small premine you think this can be vouching for his ignorance. Did you ever for once stop to think that, especially given his high school grade English in any of his mumbling posts, he is an incredibly stupid scammer and cannot even muster the hashpower to take advantage of what he set out to do?

Again, why don't we let him answer this instead of giving him fodder to regurgitate when he finally grows a pair and decides to answer?
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September 22, 2014, 08:38:54 PM
#22
Am i expected to take the input from someone who is profiting from the coin being mined, to be unbias? I think not. My only interest is in the community and i know what i am seeing here. So again, let's let the dev defend the accusations for himself and perhaps introduce himself by his real name or on his real bct account?

I'm waiting..

" My only interest is in the community "
Oh really? oh HI Ugethit, is this another of your sock puppets or is this the real one?
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September 22, 2014, 08:37:25 PM
#21
"oh it was only a small instamine, not as bad as xxx, so that's ok". Come on now seriously, you must be that only guy that was allowed to post because you were defending him in that thread ie you are mining the coin to and have a vested interest in its survival.

Be honest with yourself, the instamine, regardless of size combined with a new account, zero roadmap and a self moderated thread in which every single solitary non complimentary post is deleted spells it out for you. What rational, thinking person cannot see this coin for what it is?

I like when everything is fair , but man this is cypto i saw much much worst then that.Nine blocks is like fart of a bug nothing worth to mention.
sure right, so why does he need to delete every post in the thread that is not positive? Why can he still not tell me who he is, why he deleted the original thread and why he sensored legitimiate, reasonable questions? The answer is obvious if you just use an ounce of common sense and have been here long enough to know how this goes.

Why someone would have to give you his personal data you give your personal data to every user.No wonder that he deleted your spam when you make big problem of nothing.
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September 22, 2014, 08:33:07 PM
#20
I'm tired of seeing posts like this, what's you EVIDENCE to claim this coin's a scam?.
It's not a scam until proven otherwise, I'm sick and tired and I know a lot of people are to keep watching these cunts cop-wannabee spreading FUD about every single coin that's launched and might have a future.

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September 22, 2014, 08:32:55 PM
#19
Am i expected to take the input from someone who is profiting from the coin being mined, to be unbias? I think not. My only interest is in the community and i know what i am seeing here. So again, let's let the dev defend the accusations for himself and perhaps introduce himself by his real name or on his real bct account?

I'm waiting..
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September 22, 2014, 08:30:51 PM
#18
Heads up to all.

In short, mining began 30mins before the ann thread. The ann thread is surprise surprise self moderated and i have had maybe 40 posts deleted from it, others i'm sure just as many. Ask yourself, what innocent person cannot confidently answer a scam accusation and instead decides to censor everyone even with minor issues?

To cap it all off the comments are now locked because the OP got deluged with people trying to comment warning others.

Those with comments on the coin feel free to input.

Sativacoin dev feel free to try and defend yourself, i think in an unmoderated environment you are going to have a hard time.

I added SativaCoin to my pool after launch, and had it compiled by block 93 with the first block found at block 110. Your posts on the thread came across as 100% FUD, and everyone in the IRC channel was talking about it and agreed that they should be deleted, so it is unsurprising that the dev deleted them. But regardless of any of that, I've reviewed the details of the blockchain (blocks and timestamps), versus the threads posting times.

The executive summary is that yes, 9 blocks were mined in a total of 35 seconds, 30 minutes prior to the current launch thread being posted. Does this actually matter to anyone in the grand scheme of a coin with 7200 blocks and no premine? It sure doesn't matter to me, at all.

There was a thread posted at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--791197 on Sept 21, 11:19:26 AM EDT but the details have been removed. I didn't see that thread posted originally so I can't comment on its contents. The current thread was posted at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sativacoin-stv-x-13-pos-791266 on Sept 21, 12:40:08 PM EDT.

The genesis block was mined at 09:28:33 AM EDT on September 21. The first 9 blocks were mined from 12:09:57 PM EDT through 12:10:32 EDT -- so they were mined in less than 35 seconds and were most likely mined with a single GPU.

Block: 0, Date: Sun 21 Sep 2014 09:28:33 EDT
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September 22, 2014, 08:29:25 PM
#17
How about anyone else stops trying to defend the accusations based on assumptions and let the dev write it for himself. I don't think he can formulate any kind of coherent answer by himself. I'm waiting.
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September 22, 2014, 08:26:36 PM
#16
"oh it was only a small instamine, not as bad as xxx, so that's ok". Come on now seriously, you must be that only guy that was allowed to post because you were defending him in that thread ie you are mining the coin to and have a vested interest in its survival.

Be honest with yourself, the instamine, regardless of size combined with a new account, zero roadmap and a self moderated thread in which every single solitary non complimentary post is deleted spells it out for you. What rational, thinking person cannot see this coin for what it is?

I like when everything is fair , but man this is cypto i saw much much worst then that.Nine blocks is like fart of a bug nothing worth to mention.
sure right, so why does he need to delete every post in the thread that is not positive? Why can he still not tell me who he is, why he deleted the original thread and why he sensored legitimiate, reasonable questions? The answer is obvious if you just use an ounce of common sense and have been here long enough to know how this goes.
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September 22, 2014, 08:24:37 PM
#15
The term SCAM is used so loosely now it basically means nothing.

How is it a scam exactly?  There was an original thread posted, then deleted and changed.  The wallet was downloaded by a few people from the first ANN thread and they started mining.

New thread was posted and everyone got on board, so 9 blocks instamined. Still not even 10K coins.

Deleted posts?  hundreds?  exxagerate much?   I would delete the crap you are writing also.  

The question has been answered, find something new to bitch about.

If you want to see something that was instamined go look at DRK or LTCD.

The fact that your only reason  for calling this a scam is the 9 blocks just shows your ignorance.

To top it off, you are claiming he is behind other "scams" as you put it, but offer no proof of any kind.

Have you tried chatting with him in irc?  

People really need to stop calling everything a scam so quickly, its like the boy who cried wolf.  


There is no IPO, no Premine, no real instamine.  So tell me where is the scam exactly?

Who is getting scammed, please explain exactly how it is a scam.  Fully explain it and show who is getting scammed.




p.s. - This isnt just to defend this dev, this is a post in general about all the useless crap that is posted here.  It's sad that these forums are the first thing so many people will find when they get into crypto.  The childish behavior around here is just appaling, its like a bunch of little kids with ADD fighting just to get attention and raise thier post count.
A lot of half truths here and you have the audacity to call me ignorant:

1. Saying the 'thread was deleted' does not give an explanation as to why other than to deceive people
2. An instamine is an instamine so on one hand you admit it was done and yet on the other let it off because it is small?
3. I suggest he is behind other scams because he will not tell us his real bct name, his name or anything to distinguish him from a brand new account.
4. I have tried engaging him and he does not ever, like here for example (really you needed to ask?), answer the questions. He AVOIDS them, he DELETES them.
5. This is the third time i have made a thread regarding scamming, the other two times of undeniable nature.
6. Yes there is a premine, you just admitted it, a small one does not mean it did not happen.

You really need to apply some logic to your answers because all you have done is twist the truth for no other LOGICAL reason other than the fact you must be mining this coin also.
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September 22, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
#14
"oh it was only a small instamine, not as bad as xxx, so that's ok". Come on now seriously, you must be that only guy that was allowed to post because you were defending him in that thread ie you are mining the coin to and have a vested interest in its survival.

Be honest with yourself, the instamine, regardless of size combined with a new account, zero roadmap and a self moderated thread in which every single solitary non complimentary post is deleted spells it out for you. What rational, thinking person cannot see this coin for what it is?

I like when everything is fair , but man this is cypto i saw much much worst then that.Nine blocks is like fart of a bug nothing worth to mention.
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September 22, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
#13
u r all retards. go die. fuck.

 Angry Angry Angry

It's these kinds of posts that show the maturity level and mentality of these forums now.
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September 22, 2014, 08:19:38 PM
#12
u r all retards. go die. fuck.

 Angry Angry Angry
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September 22, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
#11
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September 22, 2014, 08:17:28 PM
#10
The term SCAM is used so loosely now it basically means nothing.

How is it a scam exactly?  There was an original thread posted, then deleted and changed.  The wallet was downloaded by a few people from the first ANN thread and they started mining.

New thread was posted and everyone got on board, so 9 blocks instamined. Still not even 10K coins.

Deleted posts?  hundreds?  exxagerate much?   I would delete the crap you are writing also.  

The question has been answered, find something new to bitch about.

If you want to see something that was instamined go look at DRK or LTCD.

The fact that your only reason  for calling this a scam is the 9 blocks just shows your ignorance.

To top it off, you are claiming he is behind other "scams" as you put it, but offer no proof of any kind.

Have you tried chatting with him in irc?  

People really need to stop calling everything a scam so quickly, its like the boy who cried wolf.  


There is no IPO, no Premine, no real instamine.  So tell me where is the scam exactly?

Who is getting scammed, please explain exactly how it is a scam.  Fully explain it and show who is getting scammed.




p.s. - This isnt just to defend this dev, this is a post in general about all the useless crap that is posted here.  It's sad that these forums are the first thing so many people will find when they get into crypto.  The childish behavior around here is just appaling, its like a bunch of little kids with ADD fighting just to get attention and raise thier post count.
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September 22, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
#9
only deleted 3 comments he said, all the whilst my deleted comment message in my watchlist is over two pages long.

edit: his thread is back open

edit: locked again.

Why wouldn't the dev just answer the accusations? I mean it's literally embarrassing, he can't even make up fake answers.
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